Help flat spot between 2500rpm and 2900pm as if over fueling

[clioboyroy]

Does anyone have any suggestions ive had my car on a diagnostic test nothing appeared its as if its either missfire or an over fueling problem ?

 

[Dan519]

typical 197 flat spot. it's unlikely it's over fueling, more like under fueling.

 

[Knuckles]

It's normal mate.

I even diagnosed the problem by looking at the 'car' section under your profile

 

[clioboyroy]

typical 197 flat spot. it's unlikely it's over fueling, more like under fueling.

Any way round this problem I thought it could possibly be shitty spark plugs got some ngk platinums on order I have bosch super in at the mo didnt have a flat spot untill either my custom cat back exhaust was fitted or those bosch sparkys were put in I cant remember

 

[Knuckles]

Any way round this problem I thought it could possibly be s**tty spark plugs got some ngk platinums on order I have bosch super in at the mo didnt have a flat spot untill either my custom cat back exhaust was fitted or those bosch sparkys were put in I cant remember

Apparently cheap exhausts can make the flat spot bigger, de cats make it much worse.

youll have to get it mapped out, but I think that it can be tricky? Not sure if it's difficult to map it out on a standard car or whether it's the decat that makes it difficult.

 

[Dan519]

it's not "cheap" exhausts, it's quite simply anything with better flow than standard means that a lean spot becomes even more lean as the fuel requirement has increased but not been satisfied.

It is difficult to map out on any setup really, but it's possible, just takes a bit of effort and time

 

[clioboyroy]

The custon ehaust I had fitted is a stainless steel cat back set me back £400 the company that did it have a good reputation. I had a feeling I may have to have it remapped tho to get rid of the flat spot just wanted to see if anyone else has had this and had any other cheaper ideas to try

 

[clioboyroy]

Exhaust may have altered the way the car wants to dump fuel through a really good remap via ktec should iron the flat spot surely ?

 

[clioboyroy]

it's not "cheap" exhausts, it's quite simply anything with better flow than standard means that a lean spot becomes even more lean as the fuel requirement has increased but not been satisfied.

It is difficult to map out on any setup really, but it's possible, just takes a bit of effort and time

Would a ktec remap sort this issue ? Ive heard there really good

 

[Dan@SJM]

Lol. Do a search about ktec remaps on here. You'll find some interesting information about their remaps.

RSTuning are very good however and have been able to map out the flat spot.

 

[VXR killer]

no one has ever mapped out the flaspot from what ive read, normally come back after a few days, but not as bad. mine was runniing a rs tuning remap done by tdf, came back after a few hundred miles

 

[JCC]

Yeah any exhaust does it, even the most expensive ones.

You can get it mapped out to be less noticeable at least. Don't go to Ktec though, it's been proven several times their maps are s**t, they also don't care if you have a problem after you've left.

 

[kash]

cable-tie the maf sensor in place so its not loose as it is on most mk3 sports, it was found by a guy on clio197.net and most people report a positive result

 

[VXR killer]

the map sensor cable tie doesnt work, as most of them have had the flatspot come back, it was just the initial ecu relearning that solved the flatspot, once learned it comes back

 

[Chrisgti6]

Just drive it how it was intended..........? You shouldn't notice it then! lol

 

[VXR killer]

very good point chris, you only ever really notice it if you in the wrong gear to start with

 

[Kazumz]

Lol. Do a search about ktec remaps on here. You'll find some interesting information about their remaps.

RSTuning are very good however and have been able to map out the flat spot.

Did nobody mention thats RSTuning blew a Clio 200 and took it apart and gave it back to the owner in pieces? Or was that another company up north? I am not sure. This is purely hearsay and I've got nothing to back it up however.

 

[Dan@SJM]

Let's find out. RSTuning

 

[JCC]

Did nobody mention thats RSTuning blew a Clio 200 and took it apart and gave it back to the owner in pieces? Or was that another company up north? I am not sure. This is purely hearsay and I've got nothing to back it up however.

So why say it like it's fact in the first sentence?

People like you piss me off. You can ruin the reputation of genuine companies/people with stuff like that. If you don't know for certain, don't f**king say it.

 

[Kazumz]

So why say it like it's fact in the first sentence?

People like you piss me off. You can ruin the reputation of genuine companies/people with stuff like that. If you don't know for certain, don't f**king say it.

Says 90% of users on about KTEC on here? Don't be so contradictive! I am only joining in the slating that this form is so greatly known for

 

[Dan@SJM]

Except there is proof about Ktec. As what you've done on the above is libel, and should RSTuning see the need to sue, they could.

 

[JCC]

.

 

[Kazumz]

Except there is proof about Ktec. As what you've done on the above is libel, and should RSTuning see the need to sue, they could.

They need to contact a very specific exhaust company then and suing me would earn them about -£1000. I have no money to give

 

[JCC]

Says 90% of users on about KTEC on here? Don't be so contradictive! I am only joining in the slating that this form is so greatly known for

There are threads on here pages long from Ktec customers again and again describing receiving poor quality work from them, then being given excuse after excuse to avoid rectifying the work. Ktec get the write up they deserve from their workmanship and attitude on here.

You, on the other hand, have spouted off something as if it's fact based on something you may or may not have heard without a shred of evidence to back it up. I actually do not care whether it's true or not as I have no connections to RS tuning, but working in a small business I know how damaging rumours can be.

Think before you post.

 

[Kazumz]

There are threads on here pages long from Ktec customers again and again describing receiving poor quality work from them, then being given excuse after excuse to avoid rectifying the work. Ktec get the write up they deserve from their workmanship and attitude on here.

You, on the other hand, have spouted off something as if it's fact based on something you may or may not have heard without a shred of evidence to back it up. I actually do not care whether it's true or not as I have no connections to RS tuning, but working in a small business I know how damaging rumours can be.

Think before you post.

Naturally, a company with a higher customer rate will have a higher fault rate. You are only human. Yes, quality can be improved but its difficult for an extremely expanding business.

What I said is not by law; Slander. But rather I justified myself by mentioning that the information I proposed to the Forums is that of nonfactual information which again, is justified in my post.

Is that a threat JCC?

I think Danlp6 should think before he/she posts, If Danlp6 is allowed to put forward 'facual' information, so should I. Clearly a one sided argument going on here.

 

[JCC]

Naturally, a company with a higher customer rate will have a higher fault rate. You are only human. Yes, quality can be improved but its difficult for an extremely expanding business.

What I said is not by law; Slander. But rather I justified myself by mentioning that the information I proposed to the Forums is that of nonfactual information which again, is justified in my post.

Is that a threat JCC?

I think Danlp6 should think before he/she posts, If Danlp6 is allowed to put forward 'facual' information, so should I. Clearly a one sided argument going on here.

If you'd read the Ktec threads/my post properly, you'd see the reason they get slated is not for the mistakes, everybody makes mistakes, it's their attitude once their mistakes are highlighted to them by the customer. Anyway this is not about tuner wars, this is me advising you to think before you say something which could damage the reputation of someone who does not deserve the slating.

LOL at "Is that a threat?" We're on an Internet forum you absolute roaster.

I'm not sure what you're on about with what Dan said either.

 

[mad in general]

you absolute roaster

Fantastic. Go on, Enlighten me?

 

[JCC]

Fantastic. Go on, Enlighten me?

You should know it, being Scottish! Urban Dictionary's definition:

Scottish slang. Can be used to describe someone who is making a complete c**t of themselves. Once hearing being called this they should shut their trap (mouth)
"Hear, did you see that roaster oan x-factor the other night?"

"Shut yer puss ya roaster"

 

[mad in general]

You should know it, being Scottish! Urban Dictionary's definition:

Scottish slang. Can be used to describe someone who is making a complete c**t of themselves. Once hearing being called this they should shut their trap (mouth)
"Hear, did you see that roaster oan x-factor the other night?"

"Shut yer puss ya roaster"

I have honestly never heard of that before. It must be a Glaswegian thing, don't tar us all with the same brush.

No offence intended for the weegies, my other half was one of you but is now cured.

 

[Kazumz]

You should know it, being Scottish! Urban Dictionary's definition:

Scottish slang. Can be used to describe someone who is making a complete c**t of themselves. Once hearing being called this they should shut their trap (mouth)
"Hear, did you see that roaster oan x-factor the other night?"

"Shut yer puss ya roaster"

Ok. Let me spread it nice and easy for you because you don't seem to understand.

We all have our preferences, clearly this forum absolutely hates KTEC; apparently so because of their shitty warranties etc.

So, Danlp mentioned that KTEC was shyte, and that a user should go to RSTuning

I countered that and said RSTuning is shyte too, with rumours that I've heard about previous from another exhaust shop.

You counteracted with law and as I have been studying it for a while now, I thought I'd do the same as what you mentioned sounded like a threat.

I'm not a "Roaster" so I am going to reply.

What you said about being on the Forums, yes we are; I know this. So why the hell did you mention that RSTuning could sue me for using Freedom of Speech? Keep digging bro.

 

[JCC]

Ah, telling me you're going to "spread it nice and easy" so I'll understand, yet you're incapable of differentiating between who posted what in this thread.

I never mentioned law, or anybody getting sued. If it's within your ability to read the thread properly, you'll see all I've said to you is don't post something with absolutely no evidence based on rumours you may or may have not heard properly. LOL at keep digging bro, the f**k are you on about now?

 

[Kazumz]

So why say it like it's fact in the first sentence?

People like you piss me off. You can ruin the reputation of genuine companies/people with stuff like that. If you don't know for certain, don't f**king say it.

You are clearly accusing me of slander here. What I said will not ruin any companies reputation, do you want me to spread it out nice and easy for you again? I really don't mind.

I dislike how you have deleted an edited post by the way. Pretty low.

 

[mad in general]

Ok. Let me spread it nice and easy for you because you don't seem to understand.

We all have our preferences, clearly this forum absolutely hates KTEC; apparently so because of their s**tty warranties etc.

So, Danlp mentioned that KTEC was shyte, and that a user should go to RSTuning

I countered that and said RSTuning is shyte too, with rumours that I've heard about previous from another exhaust shop.

You counteracted with law and as I have been studying it for a while now, I thought I'd do the same as what you mentioned sounded like a threat.

I'm not a "Roaster" so I am going to reply.

What you said about being on the Forums, yes we are; I know this. So why the hell did you mention that RSTuning could sue me for using Freedom of Speech? Keep digging bro.

There is only one way to solve this.... FIGHT!!!!

I thought I would pipe up and say that from reading these forums I have saw many complaints with regards to KTEC and their mapping capabilities , I have saw NONE regarding RSTuning. I have used neither KTEC or RSTuning so I am completely impartial.

No need to go arguing with folks mate.

 

[Dan@SJM]

Slander is the spoken word, libel is written

I do have experience of both mappers, one of them cost me 3 engines, one didn't.

 

[JCC]

You are clearly accusing me of slander here. What I said will not ruin any companies reputation, do you want me to spread it out nice and easy for you again? I really don't mind.

I dislike how you have deleted an edited post by the way. Pretty low.

So now it's changed from me mentioning law and "slander" to you deciding I am clearly accusing you of something despite me not using those words. Changing your argument as you go along I see.

That one post you made may not do any damage, but you say it enough times and enough idiots see it and eventually it'll be accepted as fact and people will start to say "Well I won't take my car there then". Can you understand that?

The only post I've deleted is the one at the top of this page as it was a double post of the one a couple below it.

 

[jinjur]

I take it "troll" and "employee/friend of a company" has been called already?

 

[Martin_172]

Im with Joe, this Kazumz is a f**king roaster, back in your cage.

there is thread after thread on K-tecs dodgey maps and service here, then countless specialists who have rectified their work and even gone along to ktec with the owners and then had ktecs mapper blatently lie to them!

completely different to your local exhaust place telling you rstuning blew up a clio 200 and gave the owner it back in a bubble wrapped box. id think very carefully before repeating roumours like that on the internet, especially once of the places potential rstuning customers are more than likely to search!

 

[jinjur]

I like this "roaster" thing............i am going to make a point of using that at least once a day

 

[MartinR]

Flol at this place.

When is the mass suck off happening :rasp: