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Help, in the middle of changing suspension - which way round?
- Thread starter Austin-182
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Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Yes that's normal.
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It was down
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Thanks. Looks so high i thought something must be wrong
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
The bump stop has probably been raised during fitting. Drive it around and should settle.
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thanks mate, will do.
On with the front now and so far it has been easier than the rears, but im stuck with this and dont know how to remove it.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Remove the 17mm nut that holds the top mounts on.
Keep all the parts of the top mounts together and also the nut. Take not of how it all goes. (Bearing at the bottom, then rubber cup, then sleeve through the the top.)
New springs sits on the bottom cup of new shocks. Place top cup on. Make sure it's all sitting correctly in the cups. Place top mount thats all together on the top cup.
Push down on the top cup until the thread is shown and place the 17mm nut on top. You don't need spring compressors, juts a bit of muscle.
One the nut is on, tighten up.
Feed built up shock over the driveshaft. It may need pushing down as the new shocks will be longer than the coilovers and the anti roll bar will be fitting against you getting over the drive shaft.
Once over place bolts in lower shock and feed up the top through the turrets. Wind the top mount cap on but not tight.
Tighten lower shock bolts, refit abs sensor to pinch slot, wheels back on, drop car and tighten the top mounts fully. 21mm I believe.
Keep all the parts of the top mounts together and also the nut. Take not of how it all goes. (Bearing at the bottom, then rubber cup, then sleeve through the the top.)
New springs sits on the bottom cup of new shocks. Place top cup on. Make sure it's all sitting correctly in the cups. Place top mount thats all together on the top cup.
Push down on the top cup until the thread is shown and place the 17mm nut on top. You don't need spring compressors, juts a bit of muscle.
One the nut is on, tighten up.
Feed built up shock over the driveshaft. It may need pushing down as the new shocks will be longer than the coilovers and the anti roll bar will be fitting against you getting over the drive shaft.
Once over place bolts in lower shock and feed up the top through the turrets. Wind the top mount cap on but not tight.
Tighten lower shock bolts, refit abs sensor to pinch slot, wheels back on, drop car and tighten the top mounts fully. 21mm I believe.
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Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Force. It will come undone.
Get someone to hold the shock while you undo the nut. Even hold the spanner on the nut and hit it/use another spanner to loop/extend the spanners so you have one long one for extra leverage.
Get someone to hold the shock while you undo the nut. Even hold the spanner on the nut and hit it/use another spanner to loop/extend the spanners so you have one long one for extra leverage.
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It just twists the shaft. So you need 2 spanners on it at the same time.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
OK. Does it have allen key tips on the coilovers?
Forget that, just looked at the pic. Use a spanner/adjustable spanner on the top of the coilover stem and then undo the top nut.
Forget that, just looked at the pic. Use a spanner/adjustable spanner on the top of the coilover stem and then undo the top nut.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Hold the shaft as you turn the 17mm nut. Quicker with a buzz gun if you have one.
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Will try again tomorrow but thats what i was doing earlier and there was no moving at all
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
There more than likely a tad seized but they will come undone.
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Im thinking about buying some new top mounts but i assume they wouldnt come with the bolt i need off the coilover...? If not, does anyone know if i could buy this bolt seperatley and what size it would be?
@Tony Hunter @Dr Jekyll
@Tony Hunter @Dr Jekyll
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Its spring direct on to the metal
182cup & 172 racecar
No rubber on the bottom plate.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
That's so cheap! At that price, I'd be buying a set!
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
As Tony said, no rubbers go on the cups on the front shocks/springs.
Only on the rears.
Only on the rears.
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Thanks mate. I take it i need to buy a m14x1.5 seperatly ?
The picture of the top mount on ebay link looks different to mine. The very top part of mone seems to be all one piece with the bolt rather than seperate. If that makes sence?
Do you know if euro car parts would do the top mounts? And that bolt i need too as i could pick them up from there today and not have to wait.
Looking at the mounts they seem perished anyway so would be a good idea to replace them while im on.
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It isnt the very top bolt i need that you can see from the engine bay at the turret on the very top of the top mount. Its the bolt that holds the shock and spring together.
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Ah I see now.
Austin I have some spare shock bolts at home I think, but obviously you won't get them till early next week.
I'll check in a mo, if you want them?
Austin I have some spare shock bolts at home I think, but obviously you won't get them till early next week.
I'll check in a mo, if you want them?
Jekyll
ClioSport Club Member
Pattern parts do make them but it can be 50/50 on the quality. Some people I know have had issues, others have been fine.
The ebay ones are the revised part, the top mount rubber sits higher so it does not touch the body work when cornering.
The nut is m14X1 according to Renault so quite fine for a nut of that size, i edited the above.
Euro will be the old style.
and the nut has to be bought on its own
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Am i getting confused here.
Ok, so the ebay link with the picture, that appears to be missing another bolt doesnt it? Or is that a new design where the bolt is seperate to the very top piece of the top mount?
Look at these pictures. My very top piece of top mount is all one part, it doesnt have a seperate bolt.
So its the bottom piece of the top mount that keeps the spring / metal cap in place that i need the bolt and cant get it off.
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Thanks for your help mate. So, the bolt pictures in the ebay add. Is that the bolt for the damper /springs / metal cap and lower part of the top mount. Or is that the bolt that is the very final piece which you would see from the engine bay keeping the very top part of the top mount on?
Its the one you see from the engine bay and the bolt is separate on the new design.
I know renault say the tread pitch is 1 but looks like a 1.5, so would be worth checking as you may have some laying around.
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Thanks mate. I cant work out why they are not sold with both bolts that you need then. So the bolt pictured on ebay advert is the very top part.
The bolt on my coilover currently that i need and get get free seems to have a collar piece on it too and not just a straight forward bolt. Unless im not looking properly.
The bolt pictured is the very top part.
That nut on the coil over is pain to remove as it likes to round off, if you can hold the top part of the shaft in a vice or with a spanner and put a ring spanner on the small nut then hit the spanner with a hammer it may crack lose or it may round off.
That collar peace is separate from the nut its called a half nut.
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Ok mate, thanks again. ny ideas if Renault actually sell that bol seperatly then?
Why it doesnt come with new top mounts confuses me!
@Dr Jekyll is this the bolts you might have spare at home?
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Cheers. On this picture, does the spacer part go under the m14x1 bolt i need then? Or does that form part of the very top part of the mount that you would see from the engine bay?
You will need the spacer part under the nut as that does not come with the kit, it dosnt wear like the parts in the kit do.
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Update:
I took it to a garage and they took the nuts off for me in 2 minutes. I had £3.50 in my wallet and gave them that for helping me out. Ha
I took it to a garage and they took the nuts off for me in 2 minutes. I had £3.50 in my wallet and gave them that for helping me out. Ha
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Problem i now have is the top cup seems to be slanted but im sure the springs are linged up correctly.
Thats normal, they sit at a angle on the car
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How this is meant to allign up with the bolt spacing i will never know!?!? It is too big
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