Home cctv and phone apps? recommendations please!

[hopgop1]

Dad has had a break in recently and had well over £1000 worth of Milwaukee power tools stolen, wallet etc., he's pretty defeated by it and I'm absolutely gutted for him. Will be taking other measures to make it more difficult if/when there's a next time, but want to price up a decent cctv system for the house at the very least as a deterrent.
From briefly reading this thread, Hikvision seems to be the way to go, I think 4 cameras will be enough to cover driveway, front door, outbuildings and back door.
Running ethernet for PoE won't be a problem, so will need a PoE switch. No idea what NVR will be needed, but I suppose you need to choose cameras first.
Will Hikvision gear give phone notifications for motion without any subscription costs? Further question, can you silence those notifications between certain times?
Any recommendations on specific models of cameras? Doesn't need to be top of the line, just looking for good quality footage, especially in low light.

 

[Oggy997]

A recent nvr will act as a poe switch

 

[rctempire]

Dad has had a break in recently and had well over £1000 worth of Milwaukee power tools stolen, wallet etc., he's pretty defeated by it and I'm absolutely gutted for him. Will be taking other measures to make it more difficult if/when there's a next time, but want to price up a decent cctv system for the house at the very least as a deterrent.
From briefly reading this thread, Hikvision seems to be the way to go, I think 4 cameras will be enough to cover driveway, front door, outbuildings and back door.
Running ethernet for PoE won't be a problem, so will need a PoE switch. No idea what NVR will be needed, but I suppose you need to choose cameras first.
Will Hikvision gear give phone notifications for motion without any subscription costs? Further question, can you silence those notifications between certain times?
Any recommendations on specific models of cameras? Doesn't need to be top of the line, just looking for good quality footage, especially in low light.

Low light the hikvision DarkfighterS are definitely the market leader, but they cost a pretty penny (Ie £200 a camera upwards).

Most NVRs do motion detection to a phone app so yes you can silence them. Remember cctv is only for detection and deterrent. If they see your dad humping tools in and out the garage it will be done again. Bollard in front of the garage door stop it rolling up if it opens outwards is a easy fix.


The NVR you pick most likely will have the POE built in, but you can use a POE switch for them and then dont need to worry about running them all back to the nvr as a bundle of 4/8/16 cables.

 

[hopgop1]

Low light the hikvision DarkfighterS are definitely the market leader, but they cost a pretty penny (Ie £200 a camera upwards).

Most NVRs do motion detection to a phone app so yes you can silence them. Remember cctv is only for detection and deterrent. If they see your dad humping tools in and out the garage it will be done again. Bollard in front of the garage door stop it rolling up if it opens outwards is a easy fix.


The NVR you pick most likely will have the POE built in, but you can use a POE switch for them and then dont need to worry about running them all back to the nvr as a bundle of 4/8/16 cables.

Didn’t realise the NVR would have PoE built in that makes life easier, thank you. He’s not been particularly diligent with putting them away out of sight, so that’s the main fix, thinking a secure locker of some kind.
They live in a small village with not much around, so I think he became too comfortable. Been a few thefts in the area recently, so just stepping up the security a notch or two will hopefully help.

 

[rctempire]

Didn’t realise the NVR would have PoE built in that makes life easier, thank you. He’s not been particularly diligent with putting them away out of sight, so that’s the main fix, thinking a secure locker of some kind.
They live in a small village with not much around, so I think he became too comfortable. Been a few thefts in the area recently, so just stepping up the security a notch or two will hopefully help.

Depending on the model, always check. Most NVR have it, but will at most power a camera (check usage first).
But i always just POE switch to a central point then the cables are all hidden regardless.

 

[Andy_con]

Just a general comment.

A grainey image of someone with a hood up isn't going to help when you have been broken into.

Personally before cctv I would buy an alarm and spend money on locks if they need updating. A house alarm which sends out notifications to various people is much more of a degerant than cctv.

 

[davo172]

Eufy cameras can also be set to alarm when motion is detected on camera as siren and also on homebase no subs either.

 

[hopgop1]

Just a general comment.

A grainey image of someone with a hood up isn't going to help when you have been broken into.

Personally before cctv I would buy an alarm and spend money on locks if they need updating. A house alarm which sends out notifications to various people is much more of a degerant than cctv.

Of course, but the idea is to get phone notifications when there’s motion outside on cctv, check what’s going on and go from there, set the dogs out etc.
It was one of the cars and outbuildings that were broken into last week, not sure that a house alarm would’ve done much good.

 

[Oggy997]

Door sensors and ir sensors can still be linked to the main alarm.

 

[Andy_con]

Of course, but the idea is to get phone notifications when there’s motion outside on cctv, check what’s going on and go from there, set the dogs out etc.
It was one of the cars and outbuildings that were broken into last week, not sure that a house alarm would’ve done much good.

Of course, but the idea is to get phone notifications when there’s motion outside on cctv, check what’s going on and go from there, set the dogs out etc.
It was one of the cars and outbuildings that were broken into last week, not sure that a house alarm would’ve done much good.

the phone notifications arent maybe as instant as you think.
by the time the notification has come through, you have checked it and decided there is an issue, the person would have long gone.

out buildings can easily be connect to an alarm which will instantly sound if triggered, its a far better solution than CCTV motion detection notifications.

just trying to offer some advice thats all

 

[Andy_con]

Do hikvision do a video door bell that works with their nvr's?

I see this everywhere but think it's standalone

https://www.hikvision.com/my/products/Video-Intercom-Products/IP-Series/Value-Series/ds-kv6113-wpe1-b-/

 

[Racky]

Anyone can recommend a camera that has a decent image quality, so if I zoom in a number plate 15-20m away, is readable?

Got a imou Cruiser dual at the moment, and is crap.

 

[Andy_con]

Anyone can recommend a camera that has a decent image quality, so if I zoom in a number plate 15-20m away, is readable?

Got a imou Cruiser dual at the moment, and is crap.

8mp hikvision camera

 

[Racky]

8mp hikvision camera

You upgraded to that ?

 

[Andy_con]

You upgraded to that ?

Upgraded? I purchased that to start with

 

[Racky]

Upgraded? I purchased that to start with

Oh. I don't know why I had the impression you had something else

 

[Andy_con]

Oh. I don't know why I had the impression you had something else

Full hikvision system, worth every penny

 

[Andy_con]

Oh. I don't know why I had the impression you had something else

 

[dann2707]

Oh. I don't know why I had the impression you had something else

I know it doesn't show any registration plates but the 8mp colourvue cameras I have here may give you an idea of the quality at full zoom.

The quality is also much better when you download the file and export that way. I have simply just screenshotted here so it's not as good

Standard view

Zoomed in. Excuse the flags, it's not a council area either 😂

 

[Racky]

My current imou is 4mpx, and no way if I can zoom is acurate to that video 😆

I know it doesn't show any registration plates but the 8mp colourvue cameras I have here may give you an idea of the quality at full zoom.

The quality is also much better when you download the file and export that way. I have simply just screenshotted here so it's not as good

Standard view

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Zoomed in. Excuse the flags, it's not a council area either 😂

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I was looking last night at these Hikvision cameras, and are so many versions of them.
Do they do these colourvu only to be used with a dvr, or I can buy only 1 camera as well, and run it independently with a microSD card in it ? I might not be looking in the right place, but all the colorvu I find, are to be used with dvr.

 

[Andy_con]

this is the dark fighter i have, really good quality night and day

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07W954M3J/?tag=cliospnet01-21

think my colourvu is

DS-2CD2387G2-LU

 

[Cookson]

I had a mad dream last night that a bunch of scrotes broke into my garage and stole all my worthless s**t. I woke up thinking I need to be looking at a CCTV set up.

 

[Cookson]

I know it doesn't show any registration plates but the 8mp colourvue cameras I have here may give you an idea of the quality at full zoom.

The quality is also much better when you download the file and export that way. I have simply just screenshotted here so it's not as good

Standard view

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Zoomed in. Excuse the flags, it's not a council area either 😂

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Same as these?

Hikvision 8MP 4K ColorVu Cctv Kit - 24/7 Full-Color Surveillance, 4x C

HIKVISION 8MP 4K UHD COLORVU CCTV KIT - 4X 24HR FULL COLOUR POC DVR CAMERA KIT Introducing the 8 Megapixel Hikvision 4K ColorVu DVR CCTV Kit – your ultimate security solution for home or small business. This comprehensive kit includes all necessary cables and four 8MP ColorVu cameras...

www.bcedirect.co.uk

I don't think £500 is bad for a 4 cam set up and the DVR. I've got a spare monitor and SATA hard drive knocking about (as it suggests you also need those).

 

[JamesBryan]

Same as these?

Hikvision 8MP 4K ColorVu Cctv Kit - 24/7 Full-Color Surveillance, 4x C

HIKVISION 8MP 4K UHD COLORVU CCTV KIT - 4X 24HR FULL COLOUR POC DVR CAMERA KIT Introducing the 8 Megapixel Hikvision 4K ColorVu DVR CCTV Kit – your ultimate security solution for home or small business. This comprehensive kit includes all necessary cables and four 8MP ColorVu cameras...

www.bcedirect.co.uk

I don't think £500 is bad for a 4 cam set up and the DVR. I've got a spare monitor and SATA hard drive knocking about (as it suggests you also need those).

You'll want a hard drive which is purpose made for surveillance and not just a regular HDD i believe.

Something like a WD Purple or Seagate Skyhawk.

 

[Cookson]

You'll want a hard drive which is purpose made for surveillance and not just a regular HDD i believe.

Something like a WD Purple or Seagate Skyhawk.

Think I have a WD purple. I would have to open my old desktop up to check

 

[dann2707]

Same as these?

Hikvision 8MP 4K ColorVu Cctv Kit - 24/7 Full-Color Surveillance, 4x C

HIKVISION 8MP 4K UHD COLORVU CCTV KIT - 4X 24HR FULL COLOUR POC DVR CAMERA KIT Introducing the 8 Megapixel Hikvision 4K ColorVu DVR CCTV Kit – your ultimate security solution for home or small business. This comprehensive kit includes all necessary cables and four 8MP ColorVu cameras...

www.bcedirect.co.uk

I don't think £500 is bad for a 4 cam set up and the DVR. I've got a spare monitor and SATA hard drive knocking about (as it suggests you also need those).

They are suspiciously cheap imo if they are the same ones. Hikvision logo is in a diff location to mine


And light looks different

 

[Cookson]

They are suspiciously cheap imo if they are the same ones. Hikvision logo is in a diff location to mine


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Cheers for the heads up.

 

[Steve]

Might need a new nvr & cams, five years old & one cam occasionally drops out.

 

[Andy_con]

Might need a new nvr & cams, five years old & one cam occasionally drops out.

Get ya credit card ready 😉

 

[leeds2592]

They are suspiciously cheap imo if they are the same ones. Hikvision logo is in a diff location to mine


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There’s two different types of ColorVu cameras from what I remember. There’s ones like what Cookson posted that are loads cheaper than the ones me and you have got.

It’s been a few years since I got mine so I can’t fully remember the differences but it’s like the more expensive ones are trade use and the cheaper ones are DIY kind of use.

 

[dann2707]

There’s two different types of ColorVu cameras from what I remember. There’s ones like what Cookson posted that are loads cheaper than the ones me and you have got.

It’s been a few years since I got mine so I can’t fully remember the differences but it’s like the more expensive ones are trade use and the cheaper ones are DIY kind of use.

See I knew your decades of experience setting up cameras under toilet seats in women cubicles would pay off eventually

This man knows

 

[Andy_con]

https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/Network-Cameras/Pro-Series-EasyIP-/ds-2cd2387g2-l-u-/?subName=DS-2CD2387G2-LU+%28C%29+%28Black%29

 

[leeds2592]

See I knew your decades of experience setting up cameras under toilet seats in women cubicles would pay off eventually

This man knows

Needs to be a dark fighter for some of those black holes

 

[dann2707]

Needs to be a dark fighter for some of those black holes

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Black holes, I always knew you were seething whore cam in disguise with your DPF deleted wheelchair and sin thi sized voice

 

[Cookson]

trade use

I noticed a lot of sites want you to "log in" to see the prices, so do you mean sparkies get the better cams at trade, or the dearer ones are only sold to businesses, rather than for home use?

 

[dann2707]

It seems like the latter to me and I saw the exact same!

When I got mine the company sold to the home owner but I can't find them now think they've gone under

 

[leeds2592]

I noticed a lot of sites want you to "log in" to see the prices, so do you mean sparkies get the better cams at trade, or the dearer ones are only sold to businesses, rather than for home use?

Yeh I’m sure it’s something like that, although I got mine 3 years ago now so I can’t fully remember

 

[dann2707]

Absolutely no trace of eazycctv now apart from this thread from years ago when you Google them hahaha

f***s sake there goes my warranty

 

[leeds2592]

They’ve gone to a land down under, where women glow and men plunder

 

[adamlstr]

Anyone have any good tips for keeping spiders away from the cameras?

I sprayed the minty Amazon one I got two nights ago, and they’re straight back:

Cameras aren’t clever enough to decide the movement of the web can be ignored.