how do I sell my mk1 V6?

[JamesG]

Hi all,

Anyone got any tips or looking to buy a mk1 v6. (or swap?)

I know its a hard market at the moment but i only bought the car for £12200 10 months ago.

 

[steveV6]

I guess you paid too much to be fair.

But try the normal sales routes, Autotrader, Pistonheads, v6clio.net, carandclassic, fleabay, and make sure you ask a sensible price.

I think you'll be taking quite a hit on that fella - all IMHO of course.

Steve.

 

[CODGEY 182]

Yep is sound like you did pay to much but then again i dont know the mileage etc,

Two minters have both gone on piston heads for under 10k (9500)

Im selling my 182 could be intrested in a px for the right deal.

 

[Hutchie]

straight swap for 1.2

but seriously just be patient

 

[Becca]

If i had the money, i'd buy it off you now...

but unfortunately i don't, so my dreams of owning a V6 are still a million miles away!

 

[Jamesstone]

Some times i think it would be ace to have one, but I didnt think the PH1 v6 on a straight drag was any quicker than my 172, dont get me wrong i know pick up from say 70mph the v6 would blow me away with the torque but for the cost of the car + tax + insurance + fuel the 172 was just in my favour, plus i felt my 172 felt more raw/fun than a v6 but think that may be the coillys :rasp:

Only reason i would have one is for the looks

Good luck selling it mate, big engine cars are not going to be selling well now... you can pick up a 182 with under 40,000 miles for under £5k

 

[R-Sport.]

If i had the money, i'd buy it off you now...

but unfortunately i don't, so my dreams of owning a V6 are still a million miles away!

You paid a high premium for the car, just as the market was / is about to nose dive-

Your looking at a very Niche Market at the moment-

Personally I would put it on EBay- You will 100% sell it for about 8.5/9k-

Not what you want to here- but it wont sell on PS-

If i were you I would ensure it has a LONG TAX, a years MOT & Maybe the cambelt change if its due ( Check Mileage) -
Then if its a Minter it may well command a 10/10.5 k price tag-

Otherwise your lumbered with it-
The most ID give you for it is 8k-

 

[RichRSi]

If i had the money, i'd buy it off you now...

but unfortunately i don't, so my dreams of owning a V6 are still a million miles away!

You paid a high premium for the car, just as the market was / is about to nose dive-

Your looking at a very Niche Market at the moment-

Personally I would put it on EBay- You will 100% sell it for about 8.5/9k-

Not what you want to here- but it wont sell on PS-

If i were you I would ensure it has a LONG TAX, a years MOT & Maybe the cambelt change if its due ( Check Mileage) -
Then if its a Minter it may well command a 10/10.5 k price tag-

Otherwise your lumbered with it-
The most ID give you for it is 8k-

I'd saved enough for a Vee, the plan was to buy one of these on my 30th
Unfortunately the funds have totally been reserved for more important things now, I'm sure I'm not the only person in this position at the mo to be holding back / missing out on purchases of this nature. The Vee is an enthusiasts car, it's about as practical for an everyday transport as space hopper for most people so as you know and as it's been said you've got a restricted market..

I still think with a good service history you'll get a good whack of your money back.

Mostly the previously bent cat d's are going for £8k-£9k not the FSH A1 ones

 

[R-Sport.]

You paid a high premium for the car, just as the market was / is about to nose dive-

Your looking at a very Niche Market at the moment-

Personally I would put it on EBay- You will 100% sell it for about 8.5/9k-

Not what you want to here- but it wont sell on PS-

If i were you I would ensure it has a LONG TAX, a years MOT & Maybe the cambelt change if its due ( Check Mileage) -
Then if its a Minter it may well command a 10/10.5 k price tag-

Otherwise your lumbered with it-
The most ID give you for it is 8k-

I'd saved enough for a Vee, the plan was to buy one of these on my 30th
Unfortunately the funds have totally been reserved for more important things now, I'm sure I'm not the only person in this position at the mo to be holding back / missing out on purchases of this nature. The Vee is an enthusiasts car, it's about as practical for an everyday transport as space hopper for most people so as you know and as it's been said you've got a restricted market..

I still think with a good service history you'll get a good whack of your money back.

Mostly the previously bent cat d's are going for £8k-£9k not the FSH A1 ones

Thing is- the mentality WAS I am missing out before-

Now its im doing well not to buy a car like that to save towards a house-
+ the government Tax Hikes
+ The price of Petrol
+ the price of Insurance ( GRP 20)
+ The price of Parts- MK1 front wing is more than £500 sobs....

Its not a nice position to be in trying to sell a MK1 in the current climate...

S

Of course its also down to how much the OP was advertising for in the first place-
I would have started at 10750 & worked my way down based on the state of the vehicle....

 

[RichRSi]

I wouldn't bother about the running costs so long as I could afford it, some kids one here pay more in one years insurance for a 1.2 clio than I spend on the full running costs (tax, mot, servicing fuel and petrol) for a whole year on our car. Some people think spending over £130 on road tax is madness, I think paying £40 a month to join a gym is madness when you can go for a run down the road.

Like we all agree, it's a niche car so the people who buy them don't tend to worry about the costs.

 

[cat171]

Steve - I have to say i'm a bit disappointed with your valuations bud, ok yeah it's not a nice time to trey to shift a vee, however if every one priced them up as you have they second hand vee market would crash & they would be worth sweet fa so to speak.

As RichRsi just said, ones for 8-9k are mainly cat d's. A ropey mk1 vee is about 10k - probably not even with it's cambelt done either, it will be on 40k+ and it'll have a high number of owners. The nicer examples do fetch a premium.
I don't believe that the market is as bad as you make it out to be really. Granted folk will not get as much as they had hoped for, but I doubt they would have to accept as little as your suggesting.

 

[R-Sport.]

Steve - I have to say i'm a bit disappointed with your valuations bud, ok yeah it's not a nice time to trey to shift a vee, however if every one priced them up as you have they second hand vee market would crash & they would be worth sweet fa so to speak.

As RichRsi just said, ones for 8-9k are mainly cat d's. A ropey mk1 vee is about 10k - probably not even with it's cambelt done either, it will be on 40k+ and it'll have a high number of owners. The nicer examples do fetch a premium.
I don't believe that the market is as bad as you make it out to be really. Granted folk will not get as much as they had hoped for, but I doubt they would have to accept as little as your suggesting.

Im always a bit stingy on the prices, but not by that much-

If you look at the price I put it at I said 10750 & then work your way down for the usual issues surrounding a MK1-

Remember Little Newms car was sold I THINK for around 10500-

that was Minter than Mint-

Remember we dont know the mileage, The condition of the body work, the condition of the Alloys, the state of the brakes, the Service History-

You get some good examples of the Mk1 & also some Shi*ters-

The market is very poor & slow at the moment as we know-

Lets say everything is equal & the car is Average- a price tag of between 9750 & 9250 would be what I suspect an interested party would want to offer-

It depends though how desperate he is to get rid of it-

Look at that Mk2 Vee on Cliov6.net- up for sale @ 16500 in early June- Now reduced for the second time to 14750 2 months on.... & not even a whiff of takers-

Anything above 9k in terms of offers I would take for an average Mk1 Vee...

S

 

[riz]

tbh on the V6 forum there are a few new members, the only people who the current market will affect are petrolheads who are stretching their budget to get a Vee and will be put off. People who can afford one will not care about the increase in Tax and petrol as yearly it wont affect them that much, extra £200 in road tax and a bit more on fuel. They bought the Vee knowing about repair prices etc before purchasing the car anyway.

Have to agree with Cat on this one that prices may not be as optimistic as hoped but i cant foresee a crash. If someone can afford to buy the Vee and maintain it they will still buy one irrespective of the current economic climate.

I can understand saving thats fair enough but how much would you save towards a deposit by not owning a Vee? A difference of a few grand in a deposit wont make the blindest bit off difference. But in terms of monthly cashflow a Vee could possibly affect that.

 

[R-Sport.]

tbh on the V6 forum there are a few new members, the only people who the current market will affect are petrolheads who are stretching their budget to get a Vee and will be put off. People who can afford one will not care about the increase in Tax and petrol as yearly it wont affect them that much, extra £200 in road tax and a bit more on fuel. They bought the Vee knowing about repair prices etc before purchasing the car anyway.

Have to agree with Cat on this one that prices may not be as optimistic as hoped but i cant foresee a crash. If someone can afford to buy the Vee and maintain it they will still buy one irrespective of the current economic climate.

I can understand saving thats fair enough but how much would you save towards a deposit by not owning a Vee? A difference of a few grand in a deposit wont make the blindest bit off difference. But in terms of monthly cashflow a Vee could possibly affect that.

These Niche 'Peopl'e who can afford one will either already have one OR if they enter the Market will buy a MK 2 No question-

Leaving the market open to the people that can only go for a Mk1- to which it is quickly diminishing-
it will be interesting to see - once we see the 'actual' car how much it sells for...

S

 

[cat171]

Newms's mk1 mint mk1 vee was up for about 12.5k iirc, I don't think he'd have took a 2k hit on it.

 

[R-Sport.]

Newms's mk1 mint mk1 vee was up for about 12.5k iirc, I don't think he'd have took a 2k hit on it.

Ah well--

Lets wait & see.... 9K FTL....

( Remember Craig Im NOT knocking the car Mk1 or MK2) just the pants Market-

Thats why I outed my ST when I did otherwise the price was going through the floor boards-

S

 

[cat171]

Fair play Steve, I know what your saying & where your coming from.

 

[R-Sport.]

Fair play Steve, I know what your saying & where your coming from.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Little_Newms/DSCF3450.jpg

BTW his original thread in Feb 07 the asking price was 13.5k.... although IIRC he took it off then re-advertised it

S

 

[cat171]

Yeah that's the ad from when I was looking for mine. He did take it off then re advertised it a bit later on, price was 12.5k iirc.

 

[R-Sport.]

Yeah that's the ad from when I was looking for mine. He did take it off then re advertised it a bit later on, price was 12.5k iirc.

Sold the other week-
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/475753.htm

not sure how much........ 10k>?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-RENAULT-...rms=39:1|66:2|65:7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

Soon appears on E bay.......... only weeks later-
Wonder what the reserve is...

S

 

[Big Iain]

Mk1's in silver, imported, modified, hpi clear, a million owners and 40k plus with no cambelt I agree maybe start at about 8k. Cat c/d cars are even cheaper and lots out there are cat c/d that people dont let on about too.

In other colours (25 red 8 blue) with low miles in immacualte condition and a full bhoona service history i reckon u are upwards of 11k atm.

These cars are the likes that will hold their value in yrs to come and even go up in value depending how long you keep it. Remember there were only 236 (i think) mk1's registered in the uk. Thats not alot to pick from.

 

[ddouble]

i adisagree about saying that people who only buy a mk2 if there in the market!! why? the mk1 is the original!! in 10 years time the mk1 will be worth more (comparing similar condition and mileage). look at mk1 cortinas vs mk2, s1 rs turbos vs s2. theres not a huge difference between the two models. yeah the mk2 is more refined and the finished article, but its not enough to make it the only one to buy!

theres alot of mk2's coming up for the cambelt service this year and this is going to have an effect in them

i think a well look after mk1 vee with all the correct service history, lowish mileage and a sensible number of owners is worth 11k. if your seriously gonna buy one you would spend an extra grand to get a good one!!

a dog is around the 9k mark

catd/c - 7k

 

[Timmay]

If i had the money, i'd buy it off you now...

but unfortunately i don't, so my dreams of owning a V6 are still a million miles away!

same boat here

 

[Dash]

James has the car for sale at £11k here

I understand his reason for needing to sell (company car, marriage) IMO someone will be getting a very good car at a bargain price. James certainly isn't one of the many buy it and sell it when it needs a set of brake pads type owners.

Sadly with the MK 1 there have been too many try it for a month owners whos desperation to sell at a loss hasn't helped the true value of these cars. I agree with ddouble, a cherished MK 1 will be worth a lot more than the MK 2 many years from now. If I had room I would grab a bargain now.

Good luck with the sale James.

 

[martandem]

selling it after 10 months is always going to take a hit, especially when you paid that.... wish i had the cash to take it off your hands!

 

[cat171]

The price of 11k with the belts done is fair imo. As the market is slow at the min, maybe advertise it a bit less ? Say £10,700 ono ?

 

[Englebert]

Always sell a car when you don't need to! With a specialist car like a Vee you're going to have to accept the phone won't be ringing off the hook. Its not necessarily to do with price or the car.

 

[J4 WYB]

Remember Little Newms car was sold I THINK for around 10500-

that was Minter than Mint-

Thats my car mate as wasnt that cheap lol had 10k miles and was/is absolutely mint, still only on 15k

I would have no worries spending a premium on a mk1 in good condition

 

[R-Sport.]

Remember Little Newms car was sold I THINK for around 10500-

that was Minter than Mint-

Thats my car mate as wasnt that cheap lol had 10k miles and was/is absolutely mint, still only on 15k

I would have no worries spending a premium on a mk1 in good condition

Hope the car is going well- Such great nick for a Cat C as well.....

Looking back over the adverts yes- more than 10.5k- Anyway- not fair to discuss the 'actual' buying price in open forum..

Anyway- back to the original car- looked at the advert ( now expired)
No takers-

Sorry- gotta be honest it a 'chunk' overpriced - people are not only considering the sale price now, but the residual value of sale in say 18 months time & that depreciation factor-

It may be a fair price to what we think the estimated value is... However in a declining market youve gotta pitch & pull some money out of a potential buyers pocket- the cambelt change is good-

Re-advertise for 10 & take the best cash offer......
I know some of MK 1 owners will be getting peeved by this thread-but that how things are looking all across this market at the moment-

S

 

[mace¬]

I'm glad I'm not selling mine.

i can see the price of them dropping quite a bit until they become affordable to the current market who buy your cheap Scooby/Evo and that type. This will then see alot of them with little maintenace and care coupled with alot of write offs making mint examples more sought after and therefore expensive.

But until then the second hand market doesn't look good. I can see Vee's being picked up for as little as 6K within 2 years and wouldn't expect prices to rise for at least 5-10 years for mint examples.

 

[R-Sport.]

I'm glad I'm not selling mine.

i can see the price of them dropping quite a bit until they become affordable to the current market who buy your cheap Scooby/Evo and that type. This will then see alot of them with little maintenace and care coupled with alot of write offs making mint examples more sought after and therefore expensive.

But until then the second hand market doesn't look good. I can see Vee's being picked up for as little as 6K within 2 years and wouldn't expect prices to rise for at least 5-10 years for mint examples.

Yeah I was just writing almost the same paragraph- but my edit time had gone over 15 mins-

^^ James- yes there are going to be the odd cherished versions out there-
We are talking though the dry stored 1 owner / uber low mileage ones - that will fetch 14/15 k- Maybe 16- 17k WAYYYYY down the line-

but the fact of the matter is the advert for the general population of second hand MK1 vee's ( & Particularly this one where he has got to sell it)-it has got to reflect what you think you can sell the car for NOT what you think its worth-( especially to you)

S

 

[R20 CWH]

Steve - I have to say i'm a bit disappointed with your valuations bud, ok yeah it's not a nice time to trey to shift a vee, however if every one priced them up as you have they second hand vee market would crash & they would be worth sweet fa so to speak.

As RichRsi just said, ones for 8-9k are mainly cat d's. A ropey mk1 vee is about 10k - probably not even with it's cambelt done either, it will be on 40k+ and it'll have a high number of owners. The nicer examples do fetch a premium.
I don't believe that the market is as bad as you make it out to be really. Granted folk will not get as much as they had hoped for, but I doubt they would have to accept as little as your suggesting.

i agree. any at sub 10k tend to be silver and high miles. The market is slow, but its not as bad as that imo

 

[cat171]

Thats my car mate as wasnt that cheap lol had 10k miles and was/is absolutely mint, still only on 15k

I would have no worries spending a premium on a mk1 in good condition

Hope the car is going well- Such great nick for a Cat C as well.....

You being serious there?? Is it recorded ? :S

 

[ddouble]

^ i was gonna say...are you sure its cat c? i would be amazed if it was.

 

[J4 WYB]

Hope the car is going well- Such great nick for a Cat C as well.....

You being serious there?? Is it recorded ? :S

lol there is NO chance mine is a cat C, think someone is trying to be funny!!!

 

[R-Sport.]

You being serious there?? Is it recorded ? :S

lol there is NO chance mine is a cat C, think someone is trying to be funny!!!

:rasp: No worries....

The OP hasnt posted much in this thread- be interested in his opinions- What if any offers he had on the car...

s

 

[Iridium]

I sold mine after I mentioned it was for sale on ClioV6.net, and someone PM'd me, looking for a minter. £11k in my pocket 2 weeks later - I realise I was lucky, but have you tried advertising it on there?

Why are you selling as a matter of interest?

Edit - This was like, 2 months ago or something? I think a lot of problem is that Mk2s are closing on Mk1 prices now and if someone just wants it to pose, or infact drive quickly heh, the Mk2 is a lot nicer to drive/be in, especially with its extra comforts and toys and the fact the dash isn't out of a 1980s Nissan Sunny...

 

[JamesG]

James has the car for sale at £11k here

I understand his reason for needing to sell (company car, marriage) IMO someone will be getting a very good car at a bargain price. James certainly isn't one of the many buy it and sell it when it needs a set of brake pads type owners.

Sadly with the MK 1 there have been too many try it for a month owners whos desperation to sell at a loss hasn't helped the true value of these cars. I agree with ddouble, a cherished MK 1 will be worth a lot more than the MK 2 many years from now. If I had room I would grab a bargain now.

Good luck with the sale James.

Thanks for finding this and all your comments.

It's true that i have a brand new company car and get married next april.

I'll give the cliov6 forum a go and see. I wont accept under 10. just wont be worth the loss. Running costs are not the worst in the world (615 insurance, 215 tax, 250-300 for next service and mot) its just extra cash that i could do with spending on other bits.

I dont mind holding onto it, better than losing over 3 grand and its quite fun having a pure weekend car!

At the time of purchase it was the right asking price, if only i could look into the future....

 

[graeme.s]

Yeah that's the ad from when I was looking for mine. He did take it off then re advertised it a bit later on, price was 12.5k iirc.

Sold the other week-
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/475753.htm

not sure how much........ 10k>?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-RENAULT-...rms=39:1|66:2|65:7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

Soon appears on E bay.......... only weeks later-
Wonder what the reserve is...

S

Apologies for digressing from the original point, however this car was for sale in Northern ireland at a dealer called SL prestige not long ago
http://www.usedcarsni.com/search_results.php?dealer=194&search_type=1&location[]=85&location[]=87&location[]=89&location[]=86&location[]=88&location[]=90&pagepc0=2

(it was pointed out to me due to the lack of ordinary cars that he sells!)
so it seems to get about a bit.