Quote: Originally posted by Adamf on 06 January 2005
Neither Robb or Fred are saying a 1.2 is quicker than a 172.
They are saying that in there experence theyve kept up with them round tracks. Once on a corner (under braking) having an extra 100bhp make no difference! Robb and Freds car both have upgraded brakes and springs which are far better than the ones on a standard 172.
Like I said before a LOT is down to how ball the driver balls (only an expression ladies) are!
My friend only has a 100bhp Astra but is totally mad and is a bit of a tasty lane driver. He was all over the back of a 330ci the other day - i kid you not.
Nothing to do with the car - Hes just mad!
Thanks for some support, youre right, i didnt say i beat a Focus RS, i said i was pushing it along..i.e he couldnt shake me off, i didnt say overall i was faster than him.
I like the emphasis on my name but it is just Rob
-Rob
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how fast is a 1.2 clio
- Thread starter docter fox
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Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 06 January 2005
Quote: Originally posted by admob on 05 January 2005Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 05 January 2005 i know of a 1.2 16v clio that will upset many cups/172/182s around the track and also round the twisties!!!it all very well having the power, but if the car rolls like a fishing boat in the atlantic, you aint got sh*t TBH!!!slower cars better setup will 9/10times be quicker round the track
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cough cough splutter!!!!, excuse me, ive just choked on my dinner!!!!, 2nd day back at work after xmas and thats the best laugh ive had all year!!!
ive just had a 1.2 over xmas as a coutesy car, they have no power whatsoever and handly like a balloon!!,, your superfast 1.2 will have to be heavily modifed to get anywhere near 172/182 etc... which in efffect means its not a 1.2!
[/QUOTE]Wager my boy????(he obviously hasnt seen the video of me leaving the 172 around the track!)std engine with just exhaust
I got to say when I drove Freds car around a track it is def one of the best clios I have driven for handling!...it corners fast and handles like a dream
My moneys on Fred !
may seem a bit thick but how do i tell what phase it is? its a mk 1 N reg phase...?
was in my kitcar with dad the other day (around 7 secs to 60 so far) and got a saxo vtr full of chavs going past us off a roundabout and shouting out the window thinking it was quicker....... it just so happens we dropped a couple and screamed past them (they stopped shouting then) but not everyone drives at full pelt all the time.... so unless you know for sure that there were really trying (they said) then i wouldnt be sure they were
give the 172 a set of slicks and id say it would def take the modded 1.2 even with standard suspension
Remapped derv Golf
Few months back a couple of lads in a 1.4 16v had a go at me - from the looks of their face they knew the Cup was gonna destroy them - which it did. They didnt even keep up till 20 let alone 50.
Quote: Originally posted by HazzyP on 06 January 2005
<!-- ZoneLabs Popup Blocking Insertion -->And as far as the "why buy a 172 if the 1.4 is just as fast" this is only true up to bout 50-60 then my mates 172 will pull on me. But since I dont go faster than that anyways, for legal and sanity reasons, I dont need a 172 really!And yes weve tried draggin up to 60 many a time and theres nothing in it really, just depends on grip and shift, past 50-60 his higher bhp really pushes it on, thats the difference!<SCRIPT language=javascript></SCRIPT>
your mate must be the worst driver in the world to not be able to see you off up to 50 mph, you only wheel spin for a fraction of a second with the esp turned on , then the 172 will destroy a 1.2 all day every day all night every night. this isnt about driving skill but you could give michael shuemacher a std 1.2 and i would bet a lot of money i would beat him to 60 in my std 172 every time!
lol...... on a tight twisty track, peak power makes little difference. Ive seen freds car (when it was still a 1.2 lol) and was blown away by how it went round corners - awesome.
Ive posted on here before, when driving tales was still around, about how I was stuck behind a zetec fiesta (not the S) with a girl at the wheel through some fast B roads. Once up to speed (i.e. over the legal limit) you need a lot of road to overtake someone or a MASSIVE power advantage. I kept with her without too much difficulty, but would have struggled to pass her without out braking her and cutting her up with is hardly something to do on public roads...... She knew the roads well, I didnt. Makes all the difference.
With that, Im off to Renault to order meself a 1.2 16v extreme...
two exact car but one has better tyres. the one with the good tyres will whoop the other. Proven the new lardy 1.6fsi vw golf has beaten a 300+hp monaro around the a track in the wet by 4 seconds. how ???? the monaros have high performance tyres simular to racing slicks so couldnt put even 1/4 of the power down. the golf with its wet weather tyres made simple work of the whole task (it was on a piston heads report on the main page a few months ago).
a 172 or 182, can never be kept up with by a 1.2 unless the 172/182 driver is driving safely or a cant drive at least half as fast as the car is capable off. The suspension (not just springs the whole chasis setup) the tyres, the throttle response, the greater torque, the more power, better stability programs the list continues..
1.2s have a place. but it isnt racing.
oh and im talking stock for stock, not coilovers or nos addons to a 1.2 unless you allow for a 182 to have a 50shot of nos and KW variant coilovers.
[Edited by cliotuRS on 07 January 2005 at 1:27pm]
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Quote: Originally posted by HazzyP on 06 January 2005
<!-- ZoneLabs Popup Blocking Insertion -->And as far as the "why buy a 172 if the 1.4 is just as fast" this is only true up to bout 50-60 then my mates 172 will pull on me. But since I dont go faster than that anyways, for legal and sanity reasons, I dont need a 172 really!And yes weve tried draggin up to 60 many a time and theres nothing in it really, just depends on grip and shift, past 50-60 his higher bhp really pushes it on, thats the difference!<SCRIPT language=javascript></SCRIPT>
Thats rubbish, ive battered a new shape 1.4 16v with 5 people in the car ffs!
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I did a 1.2 8v in my Megane Scenic with 5 people in. lol
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peterh2
Yes but if we are comparing cars its only fair to discuss standard vs standard otherwise there is no point at all in comparing 2 cars.
not neccessarily
a 1.2 16v original cost IRO £7k, add coilovers @ £800, 17s @ £700 = £8500
cup original cost £11k(ish)
saving of £2500 for just as much fun
set up properly the 1.2 16v will beat the 172/182/cup all variants round most twisty circuits, which IMO is where the real fun can be had, i dont really care for outright speed, as in this country you cannot use it, id rather own a car that handles like its on rails (the cup is good, but far from great)
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peterh2
Yes but you will never actually be able to overtake in a 1.2 as that requires a bit of power!
Remapped derv Golf
Not all the time.
Havent you ever been on the motorway and wondered how people get certain cars to go so fast?
Like seeing a mk1 fiesta 1.1 in the fast lane doing 100
Used to have a Clio
i managed to do 110mph on my new clio on the M1 right after i went past 500 miles on the clock....just to see if it would do over a 100...and it did...but i slowed down as i didnt wanna get caught...
just got back in from a driving lesson with dad, i got 16 and he got 15 seconds
and as a seperate little test coming away from a roundabout, it does about 52 im 2nd
im assuming that these times would be for a 1,2 8v, as the 0-60 for the 1.2 16v is around 11.0-11.5 seconds (well mine was)Quote: Originally posted by docter fox on 09 January 2005
just got back in from a driving lesson with dad, i got 16 and he got 15 seconds
and as a seperate little test coming away from a roundabout, it does about 52 im 2nd
http://www.passionford.com/forum/images/smiles/wtf.gif this thread is a load of sh*te!!
is my 1.2 16v faster than my mates 1.2 8vhttp://www.passionford.com/forum/images/smiles/gayfight.gif FFS get real http://www.passionford.com/forum/images/smiles/wall.gif
1.2 Clio/Punto/Nova - slow
2ltr Clio/CTR/VTS etc - pretty quick
Cossie/M3/EVO/Ferrari/Motorbike etc - FAST
getting back to the topic "how fast is a 1.2 clio?" - NOT VERY FAST AT ALL!!!
