I dont get it..

[Bubbles]

I have Cup wheels.. and had Falken 205/45/R16 on them.. cheap shite

Today i bought 4 new P2s (£250!! :approve: :approve: :approve and had them fitted... but they're now scrubbing on full lock?

Would anyone know why? there both the same size and offset.. and the old ones hadnt done much in the way of mileage

very odd

 

[Jay]

I know my I get a little noise sometimes when turning on full lock

 

[steve740]

you'd be surprised but different brands have different tread patterns and sizes therefore different brands can rub, had it happen on my mk1. Budget tyres were fine but when I went to falkens it rubbed like fook!

 

[Da]

The PE2's have 'Rim protection' meaning that the sidewall of the tyre protrudes further than your cheap shite would have

 

[Turkish]

Tyres all vary loads even though they are the same size, rim protectors and the profile (if the tyre is very square or round shouldered when you look at it from the front) can make a massive difference to the car rubbing or not rubbing. If they are 172cup turini's then thats a problem for starters on 182s be thankful you arent on coilovers you'd be fucked.

 

[Bubbles]

Thanks for the quick replies guys, that make perfect sense :approve:

Is this something that will go as the thread wears a little?

 

[Turkish]

May do, depending what part of the tyre is hitting, but i doubt it.

 

[Big Iain]

spacers?

 

[Bubbles]

i dont have spacers

 

[Turkish]

Iain they're already too far out due to being the wrong offset, spacers would either make it worse or cause other problems.

 

[christurbo]

I have R16/40/195 even when I get the front really stupidly low it doesnt scrub.

 

[Big Iain]

I thought cup rims sat further in on 182's, Just get them machined a few more mm sorted

 

[Turkish]

cup rims on a 182 sit further out (ET37 IIRC compared to ET45 on 182 cup rims so they're 8mm futher out already)

 

[Bubbles]

i think its trophy wheels that are a little further out, cup ones are just a straight swap?

 

[Turkish]

trophy wheels and 182 cup wheels are both ET45, 172FF rims are ET42 and IIRC 172cup rims are ET37

 

[Big Iain]

hmm I might wack 5 mm spacers on my 182 rims

 

[Da]

yeah as Loony says 5mm spacers would alter the track and potentially make the problem worse (as I found out)

 

[Bubbles]

Just need to get my tracking done now... garage couldnt do it as its too low

 

[Turkish]

Take it to a proper garage next time.

 

[Maz]

Always confuses me this .. how can you put 205/45/16 on et37 rims presuming thats what offset these are ??

 

[Turkish]

The offset has f**k all to do with tyre size Maz. Unless I'm not getting your point.

 

[Final Maxim]

back in the kitchen maz.

 

[Maz]

Oh right I always thought that the 45 in the tyre size was to do with the et45 offset ?? lol *goes back to the kitchen sink*

 

[Turkish]

nope, 205 is the width of the tyre in mm's the 45 is the height of the sidewall (not in MM its the percentage of the width) and the 16 is the diameter of the wheel in inches. The offset in laymans terms is how far in or out of the arch the wheel sits.

 

[Turkish]

Or if that doesnt explain it try this

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html#sizes

 

[Maz]

hmmm just shows how presuming something can be very wrong .. lol cheers for the education you learn something new everyday !!

 

[Bubbles]

Take it to a proper garage next time.

Dont i have to offer sexual favours to get into those?

 

[Maz]

^^ I thought you just had to pay the going rate and job done .. lol

 

[Munson]

Is this really rubbing, or just the scrubbing that can happen with any 182 on full lock?

My PE2s can scrub like a mother funker on full lock, especially on surfaces such as block paving. My suspension is standard, although I am soon to be booked into GDI for a 40mm drop.

 

[GordonD]

Is this really rubbing, or just the scrubbing that can happen with any 182 on full lock?

Anyone wanting an explanation should google "ackerman".

 

[Bubbles]

^^ I thought you just had to pay the going rate and job done .. lol

Depends if its worth paying for hehe

 

[Bubbles]

Is this really rubbing, or just the scrubbing that can happen with any 182 on full lock?

My PE2s can scrub like a mother funker on full lock, especially on surfaces such as block paving. My suspension is standard, although I am soon to be booked into GDI for a 40mm drop.

I think its catching on some of the arch lining.. we stopped last night with it on full lock and had a feel hehe - no room to get your finger under there

 

[Maz]

^^ I thought you just had to pay the going rate and job done .. lol

Depends if its worth paying for hehe

I was talking about labour charges at a garage ..

 

[Bubbles]

so was i

 

[Fred@BTM]

offset works in the opposite way to the way you think

lower number = the wheels are further out
higher number = the wheels are further in


Bubbles youre problem is the design of the tyre, if its only on full lock i would leave it, its only plastic on rubber