Improve brakes Clio 172

[Radugns]

Hello,

I know there are many threads, but I do not like to go over someones thread to ask for my personal problem.
I want to improve the braking power of my 172 Clio. I think the problem I have is from discs and pads.
I have braided lines, Ate typ200 fluid, bigger master cylinder, Brembo 4pot and 300mm discs.
I use some stock Brembo pads with Brembo HC discs.
The fadding is really bad when pushing hard on the car. I read lots and lots topics regarding "best" pads for fast road use and came up with a list:
Ds2500 (1st choise)
M1144
M1155 (someone says they are fine from cold, but not as good as above, so my last choise)

Regarding discs, are slotted disc way better than standard? I can have some EBC ones at around £200, not so cheap as Brembo HC ones.

Thanks,
Radu

 

[JamesBryan]

Ferodo DS1.11's will give the good bite which i think is what you're looking for and stick some DS2500's in the rears.

 

[Radugns]

Ferodo DS1.11's will give the good bite which i think is what you're looking for and stick some DS2500's in the rears.

And about rotors? Are fine normal ones?

 

[JB21]

Honestly mate just ditch the Brembo OE pads, they are utter dog s**t. Try a set of OE pagid pads from ECP/GSF first before splashing out on track pads. With your bigger set up they will run cooler than the standard set up so no real need for fancy pads for the road IME. Do you have brake ducting or have you removed the fogs and front arch liners to aid cooling?

 

[Radugns]

Honestly mate just ditch the Brembo OE pads, they are utter dog s**t. Try a set of OE pagid pads from ECP/GSF first before splashing out on track pads. With your bigger set up they will run cooler than the standard set up so no real need for fancy pads for the road IME. Do you have brake ducting or have you removed to fogs and front arch liners?

Thanks for your reply
I will try to order using Renault OE part no. 7701208218 (is this right)?
I do not have any ducting and still got the fogs. Should I try to remove them?
Radu

 

[JamesBryan]

And about rotors? Are fine normal ones?

Plain discs are fine.

Grooved ones cause more pad wear.

 

[Rystar]

@George@RTR_Parts will have something for you i'm sure

 

[JB21]

Thanks for your reply
I will try to order using Renault OE part no. 7701208218 (is this right)?
I do not have any ducting and still got the fogs. Should I try to remove them?
Radu

Whatever the brakes are from Meg 225, Clio 200 etc just add that car to ECP site and cross reference the OE code and sizes.

Yeah just remove your fogs and front arch liners as this does help reduce heat slightly, but I guarantee the issue is those pads. A new set lasted me less than 20 laps on track before they were metal on metal with the discs. I've also ran them on my road cars and they were shocking. HC discs aren't bad but can deform quite easily with heat IME, again Pagid OE discs are more than up to the job as are TRW and Renault OE discs and pads.

Ive also used all the other pads mentioned in this thread so if you want opinions on them give me a shout.

 

[Radugns]

Whatever the brakes are from Meg 225, Clio 200 etc just add that car to ECP site and cross reference the OE code and sizes.

Yeah just remove your fogs and front arch liners as this does help reduce heat slightly, but I guarantee the issue is those pads. A new set lasted me less than 20 laps on track before they were metal on metal with the discs. I've also ran them on my road cars and they were shocking. HC discs aren't bad but can deform quite easily with heat IME, again Pagid OE discs are more than up to the job as are TRW and Renault OE.

The problem is that 300mm size is available for Scenic, and I might buy OE renault or TRW instead of Brembo ones as you suggest. The only problem in Romania is that OE pads are Brembo ones

 

[JB21]

The problem is that 300mm size is available for Scenic, and I might buy OE renault or TRW instead of Brembo ones as you suggest. The only problem in Romania is that OE pads are Brembo ones

ECP do international delivery mate.

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[green]

@Radugns. Do you only have the brake fading on track?

 

[Radugns]

ECP do international delivery mate.

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I will try now the TRW discs and OE pagid pads. Sound this good to you?
Trw I can found in Romania.

 

[JB21]

Think these pads and discs will fit your 4 pots? If using ECP don't forgot the discount code of MID60

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[Radugns]

@Radugns. Do you only have the brake fading on track?

I got fading on road when I push hard on the car. Like going to Transfagarasan or so. The stock setup with OE pads was better in terms of fading.

 

[green]

@Radugns. It will definitely be the pads you are using then.
Even standard Renault pads for Brembo’s should be more than enough for road/fast driving.
The ds1.11 type pads are great but very noisy when braking lightly.

 

[Crayola]

I have Mintex M1144 on my Megane and they're spot on for road use. When pushing pretty hard they don't half make some groaning though, the pads have probably worn less (or about the same) than my discs ?

I'm going for Brembo HC discs, 197 MC and probably ds1.11 with my Brembo's on the Clio

 

[Radugns]

I have Mintex M1144 on my Megane and they're spot on for road use. When pushing pretty hard they don't half make some groaning though, the pads have probably worn less (or about the same) than my discs ?

I'm going for Brembo HC discs, 197 MC and probably ds1.11 with my Brembo's on the Clio

Ds1.11 for road use? I am trying to find a good and cheap as possible way.
I can have ds2500 for about £100 here in Romania and is the same as OE ones (from Brembo).
Trw disc are better than Brembo Ones? Interesting tbh.

 

[Crayola]

Ds1.11 for road use? I am trying to find a good and cheap as possible way.
I can have ds2500 for about £100 here in Romania and is the same as OE ones (from Brembo).
Trw disc are better than Brembo Ones? Interesting tbh.

Nah the ds1.11 will be for track use as it's only a trackcar haha

DS2500 are better than standard Brembo pads and I find that Brembo HC discs are better than the OEM TRW ones as the higher carbon in them stops them from wearing as fast and being as loud etc

 

[Radugns]

Nah the ds1.11 will be for track use as it's only a trackcar haha

DS2500 are better than standard Brembo pads and I find that Brembo HC discs are better than the OEM TRW ones as the higher carbon in them stops them from wearing as fast and being as loud etc

Have you tried m1144 against ds2500?

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

I can get you sorted with various discs and pad set ups . Can ship worldwide aswel, send me a PM with your address and which parts you’re wanting , as I can supply all the ones mentioned in the thread , oe Renault , Brembo , Pagid , Mintex , TRW , Mintex Racing, Ferodo Racing etc etc

 

[Crayola]

Have you tried m1144 against ds2500?

Not yet mate, only tried M1144 on the Megane and standard Brembo pads that the previous owner had in there

 

[chris blue]

Mintexx 1144s on my 172, and lovem. No brake fade on track, though am just about to fit my second set in 18month. Front disc seems pretty good nick too

Ive the joy of doing the rears too, as brake disc seems to be disintegrating