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Is this a familiar sight?
- Thread starter StrongboW
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NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Clutch failure by the looks of that mate. Where in the world are you? I've got a set of casings I could potentially build your original box up into.
Clio sport 182
I'm in north east mate, I don't think it's clutch? I down changed to second at 80 instead of 4th. Stupid mistake. Internals might be okay? Diff will have went I'd imagine.
Clio sport 182
I'd like a perfect box mate. The car is in very good condition bar my mistake! I'm a mechanic but I've never really messed about with gearbox internals.
I want to keep the car good. As in the near future it will be getting throttle bodies on and a few other mods. This issue has set me back a few weeks tho.
Thanks for the offer tho. I've seen some that are 350 on eBay and some that are 150 but they both have same milage and say they are in very good condition with no crunches etc. Any idea why the massive difference in price?
Clio sport 182
I'd happily do that. But what's the price I'm looking for? And I'm in the north east Durham so I'm not exactly close...
Daniel
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
I personally wouldn't buy an unknown box.
If you remove it, fit a new clutch, refit it all and its whining, you're going to be very very angry.
(That happens loads on here btw!)
I'd buy a nearly dead one and get someone reputable to rebuild it before fitting it. I'd say get yours refurbed but... Well...
Lol!
If you remove it, fit a new clutch, refit it all and its whining, you're going to be very very angry.
(That happens loads on here btw!)
I'd buy a nearly dead one and get someone reputable to rebuild it before fitting it. I'd say get yours refurbed but... Well...
Lol!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Labour is £160 to strip and rebuild. Price of what parts it needs is on top of that.
You need a jc5 130 box as its a 182, so these are usually cheaper.
I find that the majority of 182 boxes aren't in bad order tbf when I open them up.
I've sent a few via couriers now mate tbh.
You need a jc5 130 box as its a 182, so these are usually cheaper.
I find that the majority of 182 boxes aren't in bad order tbf when I open them up.
I've sent a few via couriers now mate tbh.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Flol yeah that won't have helped! Internals might be ok, but doubtful mate. The hole looks to be in the front of the bell housing?
Clio sport 182
Yeah it is mate. I'm devastated cause the box was perfect. What's the best option for me now I want another box that's just as good.
Clio sport 182
Give me some credit. It was a mistake.
These things happen.. So I've been told? Haha. Like said above my gearbox was brilliant smooth and in near perfect condition till I messed up!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Well I'm still thinking clutch mate tbh as there doesn't appear to be any oil loss?
2 options really:
Risk it for a biscuit and buy a box off here or eBay
Or
Buy one off here or eBay and have it rebuilt mate.
Clio sport 182
I lost all box oil mate. Came from a different part of the box. Possibly the diff. Car now won't start either sounds like starter is just spinning and not engaging? I'd imagine engine should be okay? It's on 80k.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Ah right ok. Well it's safe to say whatever let go has taken other stuff with it. It will have smashed the crank sensor mate that's why it won't start. If I were you I'd be getting the box off and out the way to make sure the flywheel is ok. I'd say it will be though tbf.
I've seen this happen before, the flywheel and clutch came out through the front of the gearbox and took the radiator out.
But also with the engine revving so high it also made the cam belt bottom gear slip which took the valves out.
You might be lucky.
But also with the engine revving so high it also made the cam belt bottom gear slip which took the valves out.
You might be lucky.
Clio sport 182
I've not got a spare ramp to let the car sit there until I get a gearbox bud. So engine should be fine? Might of took the starter with it? I'll be putting a new clutch in and flywheel if needed. I guess I'll buy a crank sensor and change that when doing the box at the Same time won't hurt?
Do you have a box you could build me?
Clio sport 182
I hope this isn't the case! It won't start at all just turns over. Like starter spinning noise then a starter crunch.
I've just don't the bloody belt and dephaser too. What's the chances?
Clio sport 182
It sounds as if the starter isn't engaging. I can record a video tomorrow and post it?
Gavin.
ClioSport Club Member
In my opinion buy the box of @Daniel and have it rebuilt buy @NorthloopCup , it's not a lot of money on the grander scheme of things, and it's guaranteed to be a perfect box, you've got piece of mind there.
I had one in a few weeks back that did exactly the same, at the same speed etc. Engine management registered 9488rpm, and it had undone the crank bolt. Hadn't done any damage to box or flywheel though! Pulled the sump off and it had spun big end shells aswell. Safe to say yours will be knackered.
Clio sport 182
Well there hole in the box is big enough and lost all gearbox fluid. What's best to check first as I don't have access to a ramp where I can leave it there until it's sorted. It sounds as if starter is just spinning up. I can't remember if engine was still running when I stopped tho. I just turned it straight off. So most likely it has blew engine too?
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Overrevving an F4R is a very, very expensive game!
Engine and box out through the top.
You can then replace/repair the fucked exhaust manifold while your there mate.
330i. E30 Touring.
This. I can have an engine and box out in two hours with a crane. Putting back takes a bit longer obvs, but do-able in a weekend taking it relatively easy if you know what you're doing.
Clio sport 182
Well
I'm a time served fitter but is it really worth the hassle in striping it and finding that the engine is knackered?
I'm a time served fitter but is it really worth the hassle in striping it and finding that the engine is knackered?
Clio sport 182
Best bet? Rebuild it or replace wth a donar?
Clio sport 182
The engine won't crank. So how can I test it?
Cookson
ClioSport Club Member
Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Clio sport 182
It sounds like the starter is just spinning and not engaging into the fly wheel.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
It *could* have sheared the flywheel bolts on the over rev tbf mate. Unfortunately until it's stripped for inspection it's hard to say though.
I think if I was you bud I would get the engine and box out.
Remove the box and see what damage has been caused.
If the flywheel is still attached to the engine then I would remove the cam caps, wack the pin in the crank and see how far out the timing is (you've already said that you've done the cambelt)
Of course if the flywheel is hanging off and the thread's have been ripped out of the crank then forget it.
Remove the box and see what damage has been caused.
If the flywheel is still attached to the engine then I would remove the cam caps, wack the pin in the crank and see how far out the timing is (you've already said that you've done the cambelt)
Of course if the flywheel is hanging off and the thread's have been ripped out of the crank then forget it.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Bolts will give before the threads in the crank mate. I have experience. Lol
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