Lightweight 182 Audio Upgrade

[mikeh]

I grabbed a few pics of the fitment for anyone interested. I'm quite happy that it was possible to fit is all discretely.

New vs. Old - If this doesn't offer a decent improvement once driven properly, I don't know what will!

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and the rear;

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[clio tyres]

This Sony headunit pumps out the same power (4x100w max, 45w RMS) as that add-on amp! https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/in-car-receivers-players/dsx-gs80#product_details_default

45w RMS at 2 ohms but nearley all car spears are 4 ohms so the power is halved to 22.5 RMS.
In a ideal world you would match amplifier power to the speakers.
Alpine head units rated at 50W x 4 are 18W RMS X4

 

[mikeh]

45w RMS at 2 ohms but nearley all car spears are 4 ohms so the power is halved to 22.5 RMS.
In a ideal world you would match amplifier power to the speakers.
Alpine head units rated at 50W x 4 are 18W RMS X4

Where did you see that the power rating is at 2 Ohms?

The manual says 4x 100w at 2 ohm / 4 ohm. Which is confusing, but I think it means that you achieve 100w per channel either way because when you drive a sub directly (the only time you're running at 2ohm, which is configured via a menu) you give up two channels to do so.

 

[clio tyres]

Where did you see that the power rating is at 2 Ohms?

Your post 34 https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/in-car-receivers-players/dsx-gs80#product_details_default
4 x 100W Max. (45 W RMS) power output with 2-ohm speaker load option2

 

[VXR killer]

Its telling you theres 2ohm speaker load option, for running more than one speaker on a channel. not that its 45w rms at 2 ohm. Click the 2 at the end of the statement and it tells you.

 

[clio tyres]

not that its 45w rms at 2 ohm

How much is it then?

 

[clio tyres]

55 watts @ 4 ohms impressive

 

[mikeh]

It's 4x45w RMS at 4 Ohm. I believe it achives 45w RMS at 2 Ohms for the direct driven sub by combining both rear channels.

On the plus side, I got it fitted this afternoon along with finishing off the speakers etc. and it's a huge improvement even before I've messed with any settings or got around to adding some sound deadening.

 

[clio tyres]

Yeah the guy above got 55 Watts at 4 ohm 14.44volts (engine running)

 

[frayz]

So @mikeh

Have you had to run new wiring into the doors from the crossovers or have you used all the oem wiring?
Tempted by this now.

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Some amplifier topologies offer constant peak output power regardless of speaker impedance. A traditional Class A or AB is as you describe but some class D amplifiers deliberately reduce drive voltage to maintain output power.

 

[mikeh]

So @mikeh

Have you had to run new wiring into the doors from the crossovers or have you used all the oem wiring?
Tempted by this now.

Yeah, I've cut into the OEM wiring close to the car side of the door plugs for the crossovers.

In hindsight,I probably make it more complicated than I needed to doing it that way. If I did it again, I'd probably do it from behind the headunit with an ISO extension loom to avoid modifying the factory wiring - that way there's no need to trace wires, either.

 

[frayz]

In my case i could just add the crossovers in the existing ISO lead couldnt i?
Where is the wiring split for the OEM mids/tweeters?

 

[mikeh]

In my case i could just add the crossovers in the existing ISO lead couldnt i?
Where is the wiring split for the OEM mids/tweeters?

Absolutely.

It's not split per se as the filtering is done on the tweeter. The tweeter wire seems to come from the car side door plug. I didn't reuse the tweeter wire, though.

 

[frayz]

So if the crossovers were connected at the ISO lead, the OEM wiring to the doors would be used to power the mid drivers in the doors but then id run new cables from the crossovers just for the tweeters?

 

[frayz]

Well for anyone interested, I ordered the following

These for the front: https://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-focal-car-audio-130as_p-32021.htm
These for the rear: https://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-focal-car-audio-rcx-130_p-40178.htm

Hopefully they'll improve things a bit

They're £210 on Car Audio Centre, I've just ordered them from Dynamic Sounds for £158 delivered.
Now to investigate sound deadening that doesn't weigh the same as the sun.

 

[mikeh]

They're £210 on Car Audio Centre, I've just ordered them from Dynamic Sounds for £158 delivered.
Now to investigate sound deadening that doesn't weigh the same as the sun.

Thanks for letting me know, Car Audio Centre have a price match promise, so I'll get in touch with them.

 

[mikeh]

So more drama today. The stalk adapter I bought doesn't work and apparently I need to buy a more expensive CANBUS one.

Connects2 CTSRN005.2 Renault CAN-Bus steering control adaptor

Connects 2 CAN-Bus interface leads make it possible to update your existing factory head unit to a new model whilst still retaining use of your stalk/steering wheel audio controls. This advanced CAN-B.....

www.caraudiodirect.co.uk

 

[Lewr1407]

That's good to hear. The DSX-GS180 should have plenty with nearly double the power then!

I ended up ordering this for remote control, hopefully it does the trick - http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/ctsrn003-stalk-adapter-for-renault-clio-kangoo-megane-twin

Hi mikeh,

Did you ever come to a final setup to improve the Clio sound?

I’m looking to upgrade my Clio 182 Trophy sound, but hoping to maintain the OEM stereo. I have no idea where to start!!