MOT failure...

[MarkMchugh]

Sorry for the strange question but I have my mot due next week and wanted to know where I stand if it fails! Due to getting married and the honeymoon money's a bit tight, where do I stand if I keep the car on the road outside my house? I'll still be paying insurance and its taxed! But was thinking without Mot does it make it invaled! I won't be driving the car but will be outside my house!

Thanks

 

[JamesBryan]

It'll need an MOT mate otherwise everything else will be invalid.

Have you got a drive to put it on?

 

[MRBILLYUK]

The question is . Why are you worried it might fail ? You know of some existing problem?

 

[charltjr]

No MoT does not automatically invalidate insurance or tax. Perfectly fine to leave it parked on the road, just don't drive it except back to the MoT station for a pre-booked retest or to a garage for the required repairs.

Given the numbers of uninsured cars out there never mind the number of cars without valid MoT's the chances of a pull for it are vanishingly small anyway. Not that I'm recommending that but it's the reality.

 

[imprezaworks]

As an example but was driven then broke down.

He broke down in the works van, side of the road etc. Copper goes past and pings up he has not mot, £100 fine. Talk about a kick in the nuts.

 

[Budgie]

Don't worry about it. MOT is optional.

 

[172_Tom]

I have my mot due next week and wanted to know where I stand if it fails

At the bus stop?

If you're getting it tested before the current MOT expires then the current MOT will still be valid even if it fails the test. Depending what it failed on you could still end up in a spot of bother if the car isn't roadworthy though.

Driving a car with no MOT is legal under certain circumstances, but check what your insurance policy says as well.

 

[Ads29]

If you're getting it tested before the current MOT expires then the current MOT will still be valid even if it fails the test. Depending what it failed on you could still end up in a spot of bother if the car isn't roadworthy though.

This is no longer the case now, as soon as it fails then the current MOT is no longer valid.

 

[172_Tom]

This is no longer the case now, as soon as it fails then the current MOT is no longer valid.

Source?

Gov.uk website seems to say otherwise:
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

Driving a vehicle that’s failed
You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.

If your MOT has run out you can take your vehicle to:

• have the failed defects fixed
• a pre-arranged MOT test appointment

In both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined.

That says the failure will be recorded and that you can take your vehicle away if the current certificate is still valid. Nothing mentioned about invalidating the existing MOT or it being illegal.

 

[Ads29]

Mate who's a tester, not disagreeing with the part about being able to take away and return to test station, however previous certificate is then no longer valid. At least thats what he told me a couple of month ago. I'll see if I can get something concrete out of him over the weekend

 

[Ads29]

It's a grey area at best, this is what he's pointed me to whilst he digs through paperwork

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car...ter-an-mot-fail-if-the-old-test-hasnt-expired

 

[Budgie]

MOT IS OPTIONAL. DONT PANIC,.

 

[Ads29]

What's an MOT?

 

[Budgie]

What's an MOT?

Something i get every two years.

 

[bashracing]

It's a very complicated question to answer

But basically,
Forget calling it an 'MoT Certificate' for a start, its more of a proof of inspection
a passenger carrying motor vehicle or commercial vehicle under 3.5t gross weight requires a MoT inspection after 3 years from first registration and then yearly after that, this is written legislation in the road traffic act 1988,
So as long as your car has had an inspection in the previous 12 months you are complying to this part of the law.

Then the tricky bit is the My car has failed and i want to still drive it!
Well you can,

Say it failed on a headlight inoperative, It's the middle of the day in summer,
is the headlight making it unroadworthy to drive around during the day? No.

So it failed on only one brake light working, yep still ok to drive away as you are still able to signal to the person following your intention to stop.

Ok this time it failed on a tyre that has separation of it structure causing a bulge that is likely to go pop now you can no longer continue to use it on the public highway until the tyre is replaced, this includes driving away from the test station.

Final example, it has burst a brake pipe and has lost all fluid to the rear split giving no brake effort to either rear brake, the tester will mark this as dangerous and the car can not be used until the defect is rectified and a retest done.

passing an MoT and being roadworthy is two completely different things, as at the side of the road a Vosa examiner or suitably qualified police traffic officer do not test to Mot standards, they test to 'Categorisation of Defects' standards which is why example 1 and 2 above would allow continued use of the car in certain condition.

Anyway here's the 'Cat of D's' if you want to know what deems a vehicle unroadworthy or not.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ata/file/498457/Categorisation-of-defects.pdf

 

[bloke]

It's a grey area at best, this is what he's pointed me to whilst he digs through paperwork

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car...ter-an-mot-fail-if-the-old-test-hasnt-expired

not a grey area at all, if you have a valid mot then it's still valid even if it goes in for another mot and fails.

 

[MarkMchugh]

Cheers for the advise lads

 

[Budgie]

It's a very complicated question to answer

But basically,
Forget calling it an 'MoT Certificate' for a start, its more of a proof of inspection
a passenger carrying motor vehicle or commercial vehicle under 3.5t gross weight requires a MoT inspection after 3 years from first registration and then yearly after that, this is written legislation in the road traffic act 1988,
So as long as your car has had an inspection in the previous 12 months you are complying to this part of the law.

Then the tricky bit is the My car has failed and i want to still drive it!
Well you can,

Say it failed on a headlight inoperative, It's the middle of the day in summer,
is the headlight making it unroadworthy to drive around during the day? No.

So it failed on only one brake light working, yep still ok to drive away as you are still able to signal to the person following your intention to stop.

Ok this time it failed on a tyre that has separation of it structure causing a bulge that is likely to go pop now you can no longer continue to use it on the public highway until the tyre is replaced, this includes driving away from the test station.

Final example, it has burst a brake pipe and has lost all fluid to the rear split giving no brake effort to either rear brake, the tester will mark this as dangerous and the car can not be used until the defect is rectified and a retest done.

passing an MoT and being roadworthy is two completely different things, as at the side of the road a Vosa examiner or suitably qualified police traffic officer do not test to Mot standards, they test to 'Categorisation of Defects' standards which is why example 1 and 2 above would allow continued use of the car in certain condition.

Anyway here's the 'Cat of D's' if you want to know what deems a vehicle unroadworthy or not.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ata/file/498457/Categorisation-of-defects.pdf

Way too long for me to read. But thanks. I'll just keep getting my MOT every two years. X

 

[MarkMchugh]

Thanks for the help guys was just asking coz of my new steering wheel

 

[Ads29]

Yeah that'll be fine

Turbo boost time

 

[bloke]

pass and advise:tonguewink: