MOT : Will EML mean a fail? (Not as retarded as it sounds!)

[James28]

Basically, I have a decatted Yozza. I've been running with the Lambda sensor in the decat for about half a year now, and my EML has been on for the past month or two.

Now this week I put my cat back in for the MOT, and screwed the existing Lambda into the cat. Obviously it was black, having been in the decat.
Now my EML is still on, with the Cat back in, so emissions themselves shouldn't be a problem, I'm guessing running the Lambda in the Decat has buggered it up.

Question is, will the EML being on mean an MOT fail? If so, guess I'll need to buy a replacement lambda, and keep the old one as a bung.
Unless there is something I need to do to reset it that I haven't..

 

[Jekyll]

i thought any lights that stay up on the dash longer than a few seconds is a fail.

 

[Badgerman85]

You just need to reset the emissions light, a £20 code reader off eBay will do the job, mine comes on quite often with the decat!

 

[geordieracer]

Yep, any MIL on the dash is now an MOT fail, or at least will be. I am not sure when those changes came/come into force though.

 

[McGherkin]

They came into force on April 1st.

Any warning light on the dash is a fail now.

 

[James28]

Urgh. How frustrating!
I've got an RSTuner, pretty sure I need an add on to turn off the EML though.
Although if I bought a new Lambda, would the light go off the minute I plugged it in, or will it still need resetting?

 

[MicKPM]

It will ned turning off mate. It will eventually self rectify but for speed just plug it in. The new rules are indeed being enforced as of May 1st, 2012.

Also another cheerful one which should worry some; having a decat fitted to a vehicle that should have a CAT irregardless of warning light status is a fail. If it left the factory with a CAT it has to have one.

Mick

 

[jamesd1263]

It will ned turning off mate. It will eventually self rectify but for speed just plug it in. The new rules are indeed being enforced as of May 1st, 2012.

Also another cheerful one which should worry some; having a decat fitted to a vehicle that should have a CAT irregardless of warning light status is a fail. If it left the factory with a CAT it has to have one.

Mick

I thought if it had a decat it was a fail anyway (even before new laws)
My mk1 had one (1993 hybrid) and that failed because it had one fitted

 

[ditz]

No.. The engine management light is not a fail. Airbag light is, but not yet.. Still in what they call a bedding in period.

 

[Harpham]

Put a sticker over it.

 

[Tomo9700]

Black tape over the light? tested as seen?

 

[pastieman]

Pass and advise

If it is lamba related you will fail on emissions or it could be another fault

As mentioned above new failed items still have not been enforced as of yet

 

[Kieran..]

sorry to steel a thread but if i were to have a wheel with no air bag and using a resistor so no airbag light on dash come on would it pass?

 

[pastieman]

Now yes but when the new rules come in it won't..... The only way it would pass Is it was obviously a dedicated track car

But then you will get a pass and advise

 

[Kieran..]

okay lovely thanks

 

[Owen92]

Any MIL ( malfunction indicator lamp) that stays on is now a fail. The rules came out at the start of the year but only became fail able on the 1st of April.

 

[Kieran..]

how bout serv light?

 

[McGherkin]

Yes, that's a malfunction indicator too.

 

[Kieran..]

really, thats s***

will these code readers from ebay you can get clear it?

 

[James28]

Just to be clear I have put the Cat back in for my MOT, as I thought a decat would fail the emissions test, regardless of what Mick mentioned about cat/no cat being fitted from factory..
Cheers for the help. I'll look to getting it turned off for now.

 

[pastieman]

Any MIL ( malfunction indicator lamp) that stays on is now a fail. The rules came out at the start of the year but only became fail able on the 1st of April.

It has not come into effect yet there is no date when it will come in!!!

 

[James28]

Conflicting messages here!
I'll get it turned off anyway. Anyone know which module it is for the RS Tuner which'll allow me to do this?!

Will this one do the job?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/U281-VW-A..._Equipment&hash=item2c6525f8f0#ht_3022wt_1396

 

[mr.pink87]

Just use the RSTuner and clear the ECM fault codes. No extra module needed unless you want to erase airbag/ABS faults.

 

[James28]

Oh cracking. I'll give it a go.

 

[geordieracer]

It has not come into effect yet there is no date when it will come in!!!

http://www.tyrepress.com/News/business_area/122/24240.html

 

[ditz]

Well I had a special notice on the mot system a few days ago saying the "bedding in period" had been extended ie the fails that were due to come in to effect on the 1st of april are postponed until further notice as testers are still getting used to all the new items. So pass and advise.. But the engine management light is the one MIL light that is not coming in to the test.. I've seen loads of leaflets and things from other sources (not vosa) saying it is.. But as of yet I've not seen any mention of it.. I also attended a recent mot seminar and no mention. Airbag, tyre pressure warning, and seatbelt mil lights will be but when we don't know

 

[James28]

I'll just try turn it off with my RS Tuner, failing that I'll just ring them and check what they're stand is on it.

 

[pastieman]

http://www.tyrepress.com/News/business_area/122/24240.html

Lol so as an mot tester I have no idea what I'm talking about ffs!!!

 

[james_666]

Technically yes its a fail im a tester but tbh would prob depend on th mood of tester nd overall condition of car lol

 

[Rhys Beal]

I had my 182 MOT'd on Saturday.

The EML is on and was one for the test. The tester said that it is NOT a fail but they have to advise that the cause is looked into.

Also whilst on the topic, mine is decatted and read 0.6 on the meter where it should be 0.2 or lower. The average reading I am told for an older car that hasn't come from the factory with a cat is around 3.5 so the f4r is a pretty clean engine regardless. That test was for peace of mind only.

 

[lemonnobby]

its not a mot fail as there having problems passing annex b which is the 2 failures.
but i would fail for cat missing

 

[Aaron182.]

going back a page. someone said the SERVICE light is a fail.


dosent the Service light come on to remind you that u need to have a service. ( providing no other lights are on) so therefor is a pass ?

 

[McGherkin]

No.

SERV means that the car has developed a fault which needs repairing but which isn't an imminent danger e.g. the airbags not functioning.
STOP means that the car has developed a fault which is dangerous and the car must be stopped ASAP e.g. engine overheating, brake failure e.t.c

 

[Aaron182.]

ooooooooooh

all my old citroens the service light came on 500 miles before the service interval.

 

[McGherkin]

Yeah, on a Clio it's a completely different thing. The faults covered by SERV and STOP are listed in the handbook

 

[Aaron182.]

handbook.... i am male. i threw it away.

 

[geordieracer]

Lol so as an mot tester I have no idea what I'm talking about ffs!!!

Lol, well as you hadn't mentioned being a tester, I wouldn't have known would I? ffs

 

[pastieman]

Lol, well as you hadn't mentioned being a tester, I wouldn't have known would I? ffs

Well you should be a minder ffs lol ffs

 

[McGherkin]

handbook.... i am male. i threw it away.

You really do go to extraordinary lengths to save weight

 

[Aaron182.]

Eating 2 pasties today defiantly hasn't helped.