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VW ....
i purchased an iceberg silver 172 from there also & got it put on an 04 plate for £10,999 ,i seen they were doing 182s at price you mentioned but at the time they had none in & i needed a car asap ,as far as i am concerned the one i got is exactly the same spec as one u would get from renault dealer in UK at a greatly reduced price ,i was well chuffed
Its my first clio & so far so good .
Astra VXR 17/05/07
I looked into it and to be honest was put off.On top of the listed price which is great they said there was another £700 odd to add on for delivery,prep of the car etc and my insurance wanted an extra £15 a month to insure it.Overall it wasnt as great as it looked at first so i binned the idea.
Apart from the fact you dont get a Thatcham Cat 1 Alarm . You need to get this sorted out or your insurance will be invalidated.Quote: Originally posted by cli0 172 on 08 March 2004
i purchased an iceberg silver 172 from there also & got it put on an 04 plate for £10,999 ,i seen they were doing 182s at price you mentioned but at the time they had none in & i needed a car asap ,as far as i am concerned the one i got is exactly the same spec as one u would get from renault dealer in UK at a greatly reduced price ,i was well chuffed
Its my first clio & so far so good .
It wont provided you tell them that it doesnt have the alarm.Quote: Originally posted by Rallye-King on 08 March 2004
Apart from the fact you dont get a Thatcham Cat 1 Alarm . You need to get this sorted out or your insurance will be invalidated.Quote: Originally posted by cli0 172 on 08 March 2004
i purchased an iceberg silver 172 from there also & got it put on an 04 plate for £10,999 ,i seen they were doing 182s at price you mentioned but at the time they had none in & i needed a car asap ,as far as i am concerned the one i got is exactly the same spec as one u would get from renault dealer in UK at a greatly reduced price ,i was well chuffed
Its my first clio & so far so good .
Motorpoint will fit one for you before you collect the car. Mine now has a much better alarm with far more features than the Renault one.
Ive got 1 ordered from motorprovider, £11695
+£300 met paint
+£198 for vehicle registrstion, 1yrs road tax (£165) and preparation
=£12193
Beat that?
Only problem is waiting for it to get "transported from the port to Sheffield", ordered it 3weeks ago n Im still waiting. Now they say thursday!
All clios are imported from "france/belgium/cyprus" anyway.
A cat1 Toad Alarm should cost you no more than £250 anyway and has more featues than any renault alarm.
Motorpoints 172 only hold a 1/2yr warranty, depending on the country of origin, MOTORPROVIDERs 182s have a 3year warranty, however whether they can come up with the goods is another story!
Heres hopin
My 182 Clio in basic form cost 13k, spot on from a UK dealer with immediate delivery. IMHO you might save 800 with Motorpoint, but you are still short 1 year warranty and need to add a CAT1 alarm
Can you get the Motorpoint cars with Cup Suspension ?
My feeling was that everyone will want it, otherwise the car will be worth a lot less than the 250 it costs.
Whilst you might save in the short term, if you sell within 2 years, IMHO you will lose out. If you intend to keep the car for 3 plus years, then you should be OK
Jonathan
VW ....
First thing i done was fit the car with a Thatcham Cat 1 Alarm but only for piece if mind ,insurer never even asked if it had an alarm fitted .
As for resale value ,i bought the car for less therefore i expect to sell the car for less ,its all relative .They all run off the same production line right ?
Sorry ,i just dont see the point in giving someone more of my hard earned cash & showing nothing extra for it .UK dealers are still shafting u .
As for warranty ,i got 2 years with mine all though i do believe some can only have 1 ,i think it depends on where they are first registered abroad ,again should anything need done under warranty that could be a different kettle of fish ,time will tell .
There are a few things to bear in mind.
If you buy an import, be it with a claimed UK spec or not, the future value will, natraully, be lower than if you had a bought a UK car from a Renault dealer. Firstly, they dont appear in Cap or Glass trade guides.
That mind sound fair enough, but, i used to work in the car trade for a franchised UK dealer, and when it came to part exchanges, we simply wouldnt touch import cars. Why? Because we couldnt shift them. Punters dont go to a franchised UK dealer to buy an imported car. Of course, this may differ between dealers.
Lastly, UK spec means more than just alarm, xenons etc. Some import cars can have many more parts which differ from a UK car, including suspension mountings and gearboxes, i kid you not!
Anyway, all of these possible things for a saving of £750 - £1000? Not worth it in my opinion.
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Quote: Originally posted by RapidClio on 09 March 2004
Ive got 1 ordered from motorprovider, £11695
+£300 met paint
+£198 for vehicle registrstion, 1yrs road tax (£165) and preparation
=£12193
Beat that?
Only problem is waiting for it to get "transported from the port to Sheffield", ordered it 3weeks ago n Im still waiting. Now they say thursday!
All clios are imported from "france/belgium/cyprus" anyway.
A cat1 Toad Alarm should cost you no more than £250 anyway and has more featues than any renault alarm.
Motorpoints 172 only hold a 1/2yr warranty, depending on the country of origin, MOTORPROVIDERs 182s have a 3year warranty, however whether they can come up with the goods is another story!
Heres hopin
Cup options? thats a big mistake not ordering that
I bought a MKII 172 from MotorPoint in 2001 for 12500 OTR, a saving of well over £2000 over the Official Renault price. Shopped around at UK Renault dealers and non would offer below £14000. Sold my car on Autotrader beginning of this year for £8900 with 24K miles, and at that time wasnt much cheaper than other UK 172s of the same age and mileage (around the £9000 mark). So the future value is not as low as you think it is.
It had exactly the same spec as the UK, except an alarm where a better one was installed by Motorpoint. I very much doubt Renault go the extra cost of fitting different suspension mounts and gearboxes etc if the car is EC sourced. My car was sourced from Holland and performed just as well as UK spec and the Eibachs fitted with no problems, which if they did have different suspension mounts, would not fit. The savings I made from an import more than made up for the slightly lower future value (£100). Well worth it IMO.
They get stock from different countries. You are best to check where the car came from first. It needs to be from an EU county to take advantage of the 3 1 year Reanult and 2 year dealer warranty. If its from Cyprus you will only get the 1 year manufacturer warranty.
When I bought mine it was from Holland, a few weeks later they had stock from Cyprus!!
Jon C - glad to hear u got ur money for it.
Private sale is definetly the way to go for import cars. It is not the public that drop the price of an import compared to a UK car, its the trade that does.
Selling privately shouldnt be much of an issue for imports, but part-choppin at a UK dealer can be.
As regards different suspension mounts etc, i would struggle to spot these. I know that there was a case a year or two back of GTI Golfs coming over with older gearboxes than the then current UK spec car.
JonC, I dont think that warranty stuff is true. For a couple of years now the following has been true
"All EU sourced cars now come with a minimum of two years Pan-European Manufacturers Warranty. Cars supplied with a 3 year manufacturers warranty are covered across the whole of the EU during this period"
ie Renault UK has an obligation under EU law to honour the first 2 year of warranty but a UK dealer and REnault has no obligation whatsoever to honour the 3rd year unless its a Porsche or something posh that comes with a pan european 3 year warranty.
Heres the letter Renault send out regarding EU imports and warranties:
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The 172s @ Motorpoint come with a 1/2yr warranty, Belgium and France have 2yrs but Cyprus sourced vehicles only have 1yr.
182s at MotorPROVIDER come with 3yrs warranty.
Thats just what the respective salesmen told me.
Ive tried to lower Renault dealers on the price but they arent budging and say 6-8 weeks for delivery.
As for the cup options I dont know if they can provide this, but personally I prefer the silver wheels and at the time of ordering didnt really know much about the option.
If the car is as amazing I expect it to be, I wont mind forkin out for better suspension down the line and droppin the wee the thing on its arse!
If my cars not here for thursday though Im gonna errupt with Motorprovider
Quote: Originally posted by cliotuRS on 09 March 2004
""Apart from the fact you dont get a Thatcham Cat 1 Alarm . You need to get this sorted out or your insurance will be invalidated. ""[/g stuff done for free from renault as usual.
FOR THE SEVENTEENTH AND LAST TIME OF WRITING, BEFORE I BOUGHT MY PARALLEL IMPORT 172 FROM MOTORPROVIDER, I RANG AT LEAST 20 MAJOR INSURANCE COMPANIES, AND EXPLAINED ABOUT THE CAT 1 ALARM BEING RETRO-FITTED ONCE THE CAR ARRIVED IN ENGLAND ETC, THEY ALL SAID THAT AS LONG AS IT HAD THE FACTORY FIT IMMOBILIER THAT THE NON EXISTANCE OF THE ALARM DIDNT MATTER!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS DIFFERENTLY IS TALKING FROM OPINION NOT FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Motorpoint will tell you anything if they think they can sell you an additional warrarnty.
As for insurance admob is right. None of them care that its an EU import. The only thing that would bother them is if it were left hand drive.
I made a point of stating I had a different alarm to the Renault dealer fitted item (they all arrive over here with no alarm, they are dealer fit) and they said it doesnt make any difference at all, its the immboliser which matters.
If I was replacing the 172 and I could make a decent saving buying an import Id not hesitate. But dealers are prepared to discount now, I think they have realised its the only way to keep peoples business now.
I got my 172 from a car supermarket because i was quoted 4 months delivery by Renault.
Rang Autolink, and a car appeared on my drive 2days later. Easy.
just been for a test drive, lovely car - although I did find it a bit bumpy compared to my clio. Not a bad thing though.
I asked about the price, the guy wouldnt change it. I said I could get it from Motorpoint for £12k and he told me to go and get it, but I wouldnt be able to sell it, renault dealers wouldnt part-ex it. He also said come service time Id be at the back of the q.
Has anyone else found this?
He really is talking complete and utter BS now. All the cars are built in the same factory!!!
There are a lot of people on here who have got imports and quite a few have been told things like that by dealers.
Id buy another import if the saving was there to be made. Obviously its not worth as much as a UK car (although Honda offered me a good trade in) I paid less for it so its all good.
VW ....
boyced ..... hes a salesmen ,these guys really will go to the ends of the earth to get a sale even by telling u rubbish like that ,at the end of the day he wants u 2 buy the car from him so its better for his pocket ,not yours .
B4 i bought my car from Motorpoint i had went to my local dealer also to give them a chance ,the service was shocking ,product knowledge the same & they were meant to get back to me on a price for a trade-in .... still waiting for that call ,id rather give my business to folks that at least try & make an effort .
As for going to the back of the q for servicing ,im with Lee ,take your business elsewhere ,its their loss .
Good advice D-CUP.
You guys are having a laff buying a grey when theres only a grand to be saved! Ive had four (non Renault) import cars from as far away as Japan; also Ireland and Holland. The point about saving big bucks on an import is you go direct to the foreign dealer yourself and cut out the middle man. A grey is always going to more difficult to move on and Ive heard stories of people losing a fortune on some metal; Renault particularly.
That grand saved will pay for the insurance and a few aftermarket products, so yes, you could say people with imports/supermarket cars are laughing, laughing at the Renault dealers.
and the difference when selling private the difference between imports and UK is small compared to the savings made.
