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my canon kit choices
- Thread starter McBunny
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aparantly the sigma 10-20 is very good especially comparing the price to the canon
canon 467 sigma 282 but the sigma is a 77mm filter dunno about the canon cant imagine it been much different at that wide an angle
i may get a bigger telephoto lense later or while over in hongkong but i think teh others are better suited for what im wanting just now
canon 467 sigma 282 but the sigma is a 77mm filter dunno about the canon cant imagine it been much different at that wide an angle
i may get a bigger telephoto lense later or while over in hongkong but i think teh others are better suited for what im wanting just now
The Canon 10-22 is also a 77mm filter size and can be had for 420, although rebates have finished for now, got mine for 380..
don't forget the EF-S lenses are designed for the smaller sensor so give the true size whereas the other lenses will be more magnified due to being for full size sensors.
yes and its a S lens so is designed for the smaller sensor.
If you buy a 17-50 tamron it won't be as wide, think you need to multiple it by something like 1.4?
well i think i will as as soon as i pick it up im off on a once in a life time holiday (honeymoon) so i need to make sure i have everything i need. its also not going to be paid for by me im getting it as a wedding present
possible but the 50mm prime will be good for those evening romantic headshots etc without flash wont it ?
unless the 17-50 is f2.8 all the way through the range is it ?
and the 10-20 id have thought would be great for those nice out to sea sunsets jungle shots and hongkong by night shots
this is all new to me i just dont want to get it wrong lol tbh id buy the lenses before the camera just so i already have them as they aint all in stock usually are they and id literally have 1 day to get them
unless the 17-50 is f2.8 all the way through the range is it ?
and the 10-20 id have thought would be great for those nice out to sea sunsets jungle shots and hongkong by night shots
this is all new to me i just dont want to get it wrong lol tbh id buy the lenses before the camera just so i already have them as they aint all in stock usually are they and id literally have 1 day to get them
I will be in the minority here but I would let go of the standard zoom (17-50 or 17-55) and get a telephoto instead. I use the 10-20 and 50mm 1.8 when travelling and I've never felt the need to plug the gap inbetween them (I just move!), it makes you more creative if you don't have everything to hand as well. I shot New York for 5 days with just those two lens, came away with 2000 shots and never felt like I missed out.
Or on the other hand, get the decent standard zoom (like the Tamron BluePete mentions) and ditch the 10-20 and 50mm, sure you won't be able to go as wide, but 17mm is still pretty wide and it saves the lens change hassle.
To compliment either of those options I would consider a reasonable telephoto zoom, anything fast will be far too big to carry around, but something like the 70-300mm effort from Sigma would serve you well and not cost much.
The worst thing when travelling is swapping lenses, unless you take something like an Arctic Butterfly you will be extremely lucky to not get dust on your sensor (which won't be going anywhere until you get home and sort it) if you are considering going away with quite a few lens.
Or on the other hand, get the decent standard zoom (like the Tamron BluePete mentions) and ditch the 10-20 and 50mm, sure you won't be able to go as wide, but 17mm is still pretty wide and it saves the lens change hassle.
To compliment either of those options I would consider a reasonable telephoto zoom, anything fast will be far too big to carry around, but something like the 70-300mm effort from Sigma would serve you well and not cost much.
The worst thing when travelling is swapping lenses, unless you take something like an Arctic Butterfly you will be extremely lucky to not get dust on your sensor (which won't be going anywhere until you get home and sort it) if you are considering going away with quite a few lens.
well arctic butterfly is about 50 from what i have seen so could always get one that combined with the self cleaning function in the 400d should see my self clear of dust no ?
17mm is pretty wide but with 1.6x its 27mm and i dont think wide enough
how about 10-20 50mm 17-55 and the 70-300 lol
what about tripods whats good ?? oh and a flash ?
17mm is pretty wide but with 1.6x its 27mm and i dont think wide enough
how about 10-20 50mm 17-55 and the 70-300 lol
what about tripods whats good ?? oh and a flash ?
if thats true then what is the point of having the S lens, i'm sre i've read that the S lens 18-55 will go wider than a non S 18-55 which will be more like a 30-70 or something like that on a smaller sensor.
Never use a tripod or flash-gun so wouldn't know, you get what you pay for with tripods though. I just carry a Gorillapod SLR Zoom around if I'm desperate, didn't need it in New York but used it a fair bit in Venice. I can't see the need for a flashgun for travel in all honesty
This is a serious amount of equipment to be taking though, I know pros who take less on a trip! For my forthcoming two week trip I'm taking my D50, Sigma 10-20, Nikon 50mm 1.8 and Gorillapod...everything else is staying at home, my favourite 80-200 2.8 is even staying here, it's a fine line between getting great shots and enjoying the trip. Every travel photography guide I've ever read suggests travelling as light as possible and I would certainly agree with that, every shot here aside from about 3 Statue of Liberty shots were taken with a camera and two lens (50mm and 10-20) and absolutely nothing else, just to give you an idea of the range of shots possible.
This is a serious amount of equipment to be taking though, I know pros who take less on a trip! For my forthcoming two week trip I'm taking my D50, Sigma 10-20, Nikon 50mm 1.8 and Gorillapod...everything else is staying at home, my favourite 80-200 2.8 is even staying here, it's a fine line between getting great shots and enjoying the trip. Every travel photography guide I've ever read suggests travelling as light as possible and I would certainly agree with that, every shot here aside from about 3 Statue of Liberty shots were taken with a camera and two lens (50mm and 10-20) and absolutely nothing else, just to give you an idea of the range of shots possible.
Of the top of my head, the S means that the lens can be placed closer to the sensor and is cheaper to make, AFAIK it also uses less glass designed for the 1.6x crop, where by an EF will have the corner glass cropped off.
McBunny, going to agree with ukaskew, I shoot with extremes as well but if you do go that route buy something more reliable than the f/1.8, I've loved mine but I really want to replace it with the Sigma 30 f/1.4 as I find 50 to long. Consider the 50 f/1.4 if you can afford.
p.s. shoot don't shoot the mrs with an UWA or there'll be hell to pay :clown:
Just to add my t'pence.
I have a 400d and last week got the opportunity to use it solidly for 3 days (on hols). The things I really came back thinking (which really agree with what others have said) -
The Canon 50mm 1.8 is fantastic. I bought it when I first got the camera because I wanted a prime that was fast. It stays on my camera the majority of the time - the best bit is how usable it is in low light without a flash. At 60 quid it's almost not worth worrying about.
The Canon 18-55 kit lens. Didn't use it once, if I was somewhere within that kind of range I always went for the 50mm because it produces much sharper images with better colour saturation. Will probably only ever use the kit lens if I didn't have access to my other lenses.
I also have the Canon EF-S 10-22mm. Brilliant for landscapes/sunsets/large buildings/big machinery. The Sigma 10-20 is supposed to be not far off this in terms of quality but I managed to bag the Canon at a good price.
I borrowed a 80-200mm to take with me (pretty old and a little dusty) and did find situations where this length was handy but the lens couldn't produce anywhere near the quality of the other two lenses mentioned by and I couldn't use it in low light at all. The telephotos mentioned by others here would be better than this though. I think I'll get myself a quick telephoto at some point - currently considering the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 Macro APO - virtually L series quality or even better (depends which reviews you read) better much cheaper. I also don't like the idea of walking about with white lenses - draws a bit of attention.
What I would say is go with your plan of the 50 and 10-20 and maybe a 70-300 of some description, but invest in plenty of memory and a some spare batteries. I shoot RAW and with 575 images I was hitting the 5gig level as well as being on my second charge of battery (my opinion is always to go RAW because it gives you more chance of recovering a poor exposure). I was able to charge up and dump images to a hardrive I took with me but if you want to travel light having extra cards and batteries saves you lugging a laptop with you. Don't worry about a flash too much, and I would think that a tri/mono-podwould only be needed if you plan on shooting at night - you'll often find something to balance the camera on anyway like a wall or something.
Last bit of me babbling on now; I'd advise getting the camera as early as you can before you go. If you can't because it's a present, then see if you can borrow/rent a 350d or 400d so you can become completely comfortable with all of the options you have open to you so you can quickly choose the right settings for the right situations - you want to be able to just grab the camera and shoot as quickly as you can when you are on holiday so that you can enjoy your time there. You also need to be able to choose the right setting to take as many usable shot as possible. Oh, and budget for a good bag to lug it around in.
I have a 400d and last week got the opportunity to use it solidly for 3 days (on hols). The things I really came back thinking (which really agree with what others have said) -
The Canon 50mm 1.8 is fantastic. I bought it when I first got the camera because I wanted a prime that was fast. It stays on my camera the majority of the time - the best bit is how usable it is in low light without a flash. At 60 quid it's almost not worth worrying about.
The Canon 18-55 kit lens. Didn't use it once, if I was somewhere within that kind of range I always went for the 50mm because it produces much sharper images with better colour saturation. Will probably only ever use the kit lens if I didn't have access to my other lenses.
I also have the Canon EF-S 10-22mm. Brilliant for landscapes/sunsets/large buildings/big machinery. The Sigma 10-20 is supposed to be not far off this in terms of quality but I managed to bag the Canon at a good price.
I borrowed a 80-200mm to take with me (pretty old and a little dusty) and did find situations where this length was handy but the lens couldn't produce anywhere near the quality of the other two lenses mentioned by and I couldn't use it in low light at all. The telephotos mentioned by others here would be better than this though. I think I'll get myself a quick telephoto at some point - currently considering the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 Macro APO - virtually L series quality or even better (depends which reviews you read) better much cheaper. I also don't like the idea of walking about with white lenses - draws a bit of attention.
What I would say is go with your plan of the 50 and 10-20 and maybe a 70-300 of some description, but invest in plenty of memory and a some spare batteries. I shoot RAW and with 575 images I was hitting the 5gig level as well as being on my second charge of battery (my opinion is always to go RAW because it gives you more chance of recovering a poor exposure). I was able to charge up and dump images to a hardrive I took with me but if you want to travel light having extra cards and batteries saves you lugging a laptop with you. Don't worry about a flash too much, and I would think that a tri/mono-podwould only be needed if you plan on shooting at night - you'll often find something to balance the camera on anyway like a wall or something.
Last bit of me babbling on now; I'd advise getting the camera as early as you can before you go. If you can't because it's a present, then see if you can borrow/rent a 350d or 400d so you can become completely comfortable with all of the options you have open to you so you can quickly choose the right settings for the right situations - you want to be able to just grab the camera and shoot as quickly as you can when you are on holiday so that you can enjoy your time there. You also need to be able to choose the right setting to take as many usable shot as possible. Oh, and budget for a good bag to lug it around in.
Turbo'd MX-5 MK4
many thanks for the advice every one
will go with the 50 and the 10-20
regards memory cards are the sandisk extreme 3's worth getting ?
what would you say a few 2 gigs or am i better off going with a few 4 gigs
Personally I would go for Sandisk Ultra IIs if they are a bit cheaper, you won't use the extra speed of the Extreme IIIs. A few 2GBs is always safer imo, 4Gb is a lot of photos to lose.
This guy sorts me out good, specially if you buy outside of ebay 
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FLASH-CAMERA
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FLASH-CAMERA
This guy sorts me out good, specially if you buy outside of ebay
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FLASH-CAMERA
how do i go about buying outside of ebay from him ?
This guy sorts me out good, specially if you buy outside of ebay
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/FLASH-CAMERA
how do i go about buying outside of ebay from him ?
Goes by the name of 'kerso' on here http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php (temporarily down), I made a bank transfer to him for my 10-22. When its up again I'll get a link to his feedback thread, very trusted... I'm sure you can also just email him...
sounds like a great price!
Rite, POTN is back up, 47 pages starting in 2005 of good comments, not sure I'd buy a body from him but lenses, have done and will in the future...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64418&page=46
Rite, POTN is back up, 47 pages starting in 2005 of good comments, not sure I'd buy a body from him but lenses, have done and will in the future...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64418&page=46
