My clio mk1 versus a civic type r

[welshname]

Didn't realise he'd hospitalized himself in the accident.

You do need a few threads up though pal. You've had a fair few interesting cars.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Yeah I should document it all one day I guess, as I know people find project cars interesting.

 

[imprezaworks]

Was that type r std?

 

[Tony172]

Yeah I should document it all one day I guess, as I know people find project cars interesting.

yeah id be intrested to read about all your projects!

also looking forward to seeing the corsa in the flesh and in action on the track!!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Was that type r std?

I assume so mate, dont know though, I just came up behind him on the track and overtook him, dont know anything about the car itself.

 

[imprezaworks]

Ah right, just being nosey lol. Nice driving btw

 

[Chip-mk1]

also looking forward to seeing the corsa in the flesh and in action on the track!!

Its really not anything special mate, it goes well enough but its just a tatty old corsa shell with a smokey (literally on the over run you'll see it smoke into every bend, lol) old engine in it, the only good bits really are the cams/itbs/map/diff everything else is pretty uninteresting.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Ah right, just being nosey lol. Nice driving btw

Thanks

TBH though, Ive been going to combe for 15 years or so now, so got no excuse not to get it about right, its not talent in my case reeally, just practice, lol

 

[imprezaworks]

Fair enough. Ive been toying with getting a type r for a while, but i loive mine. Shame i cant afford both

 

[Chip-mk1]

Fair enough. Ive been toying with getting a type r for a while, but i loive mine. Shame i cant afford both

We had a tear up with a mate in a standard one (other than upgraded brakes) around bedford recently, and there was nothing really in it from our 172 TBH, we were slightly quicker in the bends, he was slightly quicker on the straights, over a lap though it was almost identical, too close to call.
Difference is though, the type r can much more easily be modified for big power!

We've considered one, but they just arent enough better than the clio to justify the cost difference really.

 

[imprezaworks]

Yeah they are a bit dearer, still tempted though....

 

[Chip-mk1]

Depends what you plan to do with I reckon.

Unless you want to go and chase lots of power, I dont see any advantage to one over a 172 really

 

[imprezaworks]

Just after a bit of a change...maybe lol

 

[JackJack]

Got a pic of the pedals in your corsa? iirc you said they were some floor mounted race ones.

 

[mr bognor]

Do it the dark side is better

Just after a bit of a change...maybe lol

 

[Chip-mk1]

Got a pic of the pedals in your corsa? iirc you said they were some floor mounted race ones.

Standard pedals in the corsa mate, its my yellow mk1 that has them floor mounted.

 

[mr bognor]

Gear box , Engine , Build Quality , tuning

Depends what you plan to do with I reckon.

Unless you want to go and chase lots of power, I dont see any advantage to one over a 172 really

 

[Chip-mk1]

Gear box , Engine , Build Quality , tuning

If you arent going to chase loads of power though the 172 engine and box are fine, and by definition you arent going to be tuning.
So build quality is about the only thing relevent if you are not looking to modifiy for more power IMHO, and the 172 isnt terrible in that respect anyway IME (unusually for a french car, lol)

 

[mr bognor]

I’m talking interms of feel I guess not outright power i.e. gear box in the Civic is the bestI have come across for feel and the engine has a certain something about itthat excites me more than the Renault lump i.e. noise change over etc. .

I’ve had x 2 Ph.1 172 and x 1 Civic EP3 and i rate the Civic more .

If you arent going to chase loads of power though the 172 engine and box are fine, and by definition you arent going to be tuning.
So build quality is about the only thing relevent if you are not looking to modifiy for more power IMHO, and the 172 isnt terrible in that respect anyway IME (unusually for a french car, lol)

 

[welshname]

Is it wrong I prefer my IB5 gearbox to the civic ones?

 

[mr bognor]

Yes GTFO

Is it wrong I prefer my IB5 gearbox to the civic ones?

 

[welshname]

IB5 is a heroic box. /end discussion.

 

[mr bognor]

Is this the same box in the Fiesta 1.25 Ztec ?

IB5 is a heroic box. /end discussion.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I’m talking interms of feel I guess not outright power i.e. gear box in the Civic is the bestI have come across for feel and the engine has a certain something about itthat excites me more than the Renault lump i.e. noise change over etc. .

I’ve had x 2 Ph.1 172 and x 1 Civic EP3 and i rate the Civic more .

If they were the same price and I had neither already, I would buy a civic.

But as I have a 172 im happy with and thats mechanically good etc, and it would cost me thousands to swap, seems better to stick with what I have.

 

[mr bognor]

Fair point

If they were the same price and I had neither already, I would buy a civic.

But as I have a 172 im happy with and thats mechanically good etc, and it would cost me thousands to swap, seems better to stick with what I have.

 

[welshname]

Is this the same box in the Fiesta 1.25 Ztec ?

Not a clue, it's in the Puma's and the Fiesta's Zetec-S though.

 

[warwickstingray]

Hope you mate learned something! Glad he's ok. My mate stuffed my xr2 into 1st instead of 3rd at 75mph at combe and jacked all the followers up on a recently built engine with a nicely ported head. It's funny I didn't get angry about it either. He was being bullied by a 182 at the time and was concentrating too hard on getting out the way. I was more annoyed that I'd assured him it was good friendly fun and he felt quite the opposite when we came off with a broken car.

 

[mr bognor]

Had a go in my mums old Fiesta 1.2 with this box in or same sort of box .

Was ok but nothing special IMO the Puma one might be different

Not a clue, it's in the Puma's and the Fiesta's Zetec-S though.

 

[warwickstingray]

Not a clue, it's in the Puma's and the Fiesta's Zetec-S though.

Fords bread and butter fwd box after the BC. Nothing special about it in anyway. It does the job it's supposed to well enough and nothing more.

MTX-75 was stronger but was a bit big for fiesta's at the time.

 

[2 live]

good going in the valver. havent come across a type r on a trackday for years tbh. this is the last time i encountered one. cam car was craggys uber quick saxo, hed been chasing the teg for a few laps ...

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