Looking into purchasing my first DA.
This is my basket atm
Is there anything I've missed off that I'm going to need?
This is my basket atm
Is there anything I've missed off that I'm going to need?
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My First DA. Anything Else I Need?
- Thread starter Emma.
- Start date
You might want to buy some polish... 
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Yep, polish.
Although i'd have gone for the DAS-6 Pro from CleanYourCar. Has a better motor.
Although i'd have gone for the DAS-6 Pro from CleanYourCar. Has a better motor.
You might want to buy some polish...
Lol you cheeky sod.
Ive got polish glaze and wax etc.
I haven't bought anything as yet. Wanted some advice from people more in the know then me
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
I haven't bought anything as yet. Wanted some advice from people more in the know then me
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polis.../das-6-pro-dual-action-polisher/prod_673.html
That one. It's more expensive, but a better machine and worth it in the long run IMO
Thanks James
What polish have you got already then? :rasp:
Ive got poor boys ssr2.5, srp, poorboys black hole and nattys blue paste.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
how much are you planning on using it, I didn't see the point in paying extra for the pro version and the difference in cost paid for all my pads and compounds and got on just fine.
If you feel you need the extra power when polishing have a look at the EP800 rotary from CYC
If you feel you need the extra power when polishing have a look at the EP800 rotary from CYC
As dave said, id rather go for the standard das 6 and spend the extra pennies on pads and polish etc. end of the day when i get confident and start doing other cars etc ill upgrade to a rotary.
Id also get this kit to start off with aswell -
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/menzerna-250ml-polish-sample-kit.php
Id also get this kit to start off with aswell -
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/menzerna-250ml-polish-sample-kit.php
Only one of those is a polish.
:rasp:
Not sure how SRP behaves with a DA...?! Could be good, could be awful haha !
BH is great with a finishing pad by DA tho
I'm planning on using it a fair bit tbh. Going to hone my skills then offer a detailing service to friends family etc.
I don't quite trust myself with a rotary quite yet tbh. Want to start off with a DA then progress up.
My budget is around £150 for machine and pads etc.
I don't quite trust myself with a rotary quite yet tbh. Want to start off with a DA then progress up.
My budget is around £150 for machine and pads etc.
Only one of those is a polish.
:rasp:
Not sure how SRP behaves with a DA...?! Could be good, could be awful haha !
BH is great with a finishing pad by DA tho
Ssr 2.5 is labelled as a polish.
VIICarCare
ClioSport Club Member
255, 230, 172, R26
I don't like the Kestrel machines, too big & heavy. Although, that was the rotary, not sure on the da?
No offence Emma but that's simply crazy that basket!
A compounding pad?
I know you don't know much about detailing but people should spend longer researching before jumping in feet first.
Can anyone find that last das-6 thread that I wrote quite a bit in? I'm on my phone.
I personally would buy an EP800 ocer a DA these days. A rotary is much much easier to use and if you listen to the right people you won't do any damage.
If you're going with a DA just stick with the kestrel. If you're spending more buy the rotary. It's a false economy otherwise.
Find that thread and read it. Then come back in here and ask away.
A compounding pad?
I know you don't know much about detailing but people should spend longer researching before jumping in feet first.
Can anyone find that last das-6 thread that I wrote quite a bit in? I'm on my phone.
I personally would buy an EP800 ocer a DA these days. A rotary is much much easier to use and if you listen to the right people you won't do any damage.
If you're going with a DA just stick with the kestrel. If you're spending more buy the rotary. It's a false economy otherwise.
Find that thread and read it. Then come back in here and ask away.
Read this post:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?620334-I-bought-a-DAS-6-kit-)
And the recommendations Gally gave me in there.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?620334-I-bought-a-DAS-6-kit-)
And the recommendations Gally gave me in there.
Why would you buy polishes like ssr when there are polishes like menzerna out there. The price difference is negligible.
I hate to sound harsh again but it shows lack of research. I could count on one hand the amount of times i've heard ssr mentioned on here.
I hate to sound harsh again but it shows lack of research. I could count on one hand the amount of times i've heard ssr mentioned on here.
Thanks gally. I did read the thread you mentioned.
Im not 100% sure on the pads I'll need. I'm pretty set on a DA to learn then if it works out with doing other cars then I shall progress onto a rotary.
So what pads would you guys recommend for me.
I'm going to bookmark this thread. It will all be in a sticky soon enough!
Thanks James. Much appreciated.
Being harsh is fine as long as its pointing me in the right direction.
I saw someone use the ssr not so long ago and I thought it had decent results hence buying it for myself.
Clio 182, Astra Sri
hasnt AG SRP got a new formula now, which is giving good results?
Isn't it called radiant wax or something? It's still old school in essence. Especially with products like AF Tripple out.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=620334
There's simply so much info in the above thread. James' basket is still pretty spot on.
Sadly people are still a little obsessed with the word "correction". It's not really quite as simple as that.
Ok thanks Kev. I know you reccomended the chemical guys hex pads in there. I'll just order the same
Only reason I didn't have them in my basket is they don't have them a i4detailing and it was the cheapest place for a DA
It's better spending the extra money elsewhere and get the right stuff.
Thanks for the advice
Only reason I didn't have them in my basket is they don't have them a i4detailing and it was the cheapest place for a DA
It's better spending the extra money elsewhere and get the right stuff.
Thanks for the advice
Golf GT & A4 Avant
offering a detailing service to people is a bit ambitious, no offence. the experience needed to do that you'll have worn out your DA. I had people asking me to do it and I was turning them down, I would only clean and seal, never correct or enhance and do it for free or an invite to a summer BBQ. I only ever did two enhancement detail for a close friend and they only paid for the products. I reserve that for my own cars, unless I particularly want to do it to a family members car.
Get it wrong and you're in the sh!t. Look at Toby, someone who I thought of as being pretty experienced :quiet: go through the clear coat wet sanding. A DA is just as dangerous in the wrong hands as a rotary, more so with a more powerful DA. I watched people burn paint with a finishing pad and compound with DA at a recent training course on scrap panels.
As is always said, start with the softest pad and least abrasive compound. even pre wax cleansers like lime prime and SRP can offer a small amount of cut when used by machine. get a scrap panel and work it to get the hang of it, try burning through so you no the warning signs. Please don't go into it without watching as many videos and reading all the guides available
Get it wrong and you're in the sh!t. Look at Toby, someone who I thought of as being pretty experienced :quiet: go through the clear coat wet sanding. A DA is just as dangerous in the wrong hands as a rotary, more so with a more powerful DA. I watched people burn paint with a finishing pad and compound with DA at a recent training course on scrap panels.
As is always said, start with the softest pad and least abrasive compound. even pre wax cleansers like lime prime and SRP can offer a small amount of cut when used by machine. get a scrap panel and work it to get the hang of it, try burning through so you no the warning signs. Please don't go into it without watching as many videos and reading all the guides available
Ok Dave thanks for the info.
My first stop is a scrappy for panel to practice on.
I know what you mean by ambitious. It's just something I enjoy doing by hand and have done a few cars. Just seems the natural progression to move onto a machine.
My first stop is a scrappy for panel to practice on.
I know what you mean by ambitious. It's just something I enjoy doing by hand and have done a few cars. Just seems the natural progression to move onto a machine.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
IMO a good decon wash and seal will make 75% happy, working with a filler heavy product and a good wax with all the other finishing touches will transform most cars, and a lot of people don't really notice the swirls, or they expect levels of correction that simply aren't achievable without a respray. and the time and effort in going through machine use and the results gained, unless a pure enthusiast, aren't always appreciated. I remember having quite an in depth conversation with James at AF about exactly that.
If you can make a noticeable difference to the finish, majority will be happy. And to achieve this most of the time I would use something like SRP / tripple / rejuvenate / lime prime topped up with the appropriate LSP. The difference compared to a previously unprotected car will please most.
I don't mean to put a downer on your plans but it's certainly not something you can just walk into.
PS Kev stop upsetting the GT subforum residents
Your not putting a downer on it at all Dave. I appreciate the feedback from those who are experienced.
I don't expected to get a DA, then start doing other cars the next day. I know it's going to take time, effort and practice on scrap panels before I can start thinking about cars.
I don't expected to get a DA, then start doing other cars the next day. I know it's going to take time, effort and practice on scrap panels before I can start thinking about cars.
Upsetting the resident GT fanbois I couldn't care less about.
I'll say it on here as I can't on there, changing/getting rid of the best product to hit the detailing market in years because it's more profitable is piss imo. Then again i'm not a business man.
I'll say it on here as I can't on there, changing/getting rid of the best product to hit the detailing market in years because it's more profitable is piss imo. Then again i'm not a business man.
So after my dressing down yesterday I revised my basket at cyc to the chemical guys hex pads.
Quick question though, I want some smaller 4" spot pads for the small intricate bits. The hex pads don't do the blue pad in the 4" version. What else in that size would be recommended?
I revised my basket at cyc to the chemical guys hex pads. Quick question though, I want some smaller 4" spot pads for the small intricate bits. The hex pads don't do the blue pad in the 4" version. What else in that size would be recommended?
Golf GT & A4 Avant
I went for orange, green and black Hex spot pads, the black is very soft and have used it for finishing and glazing
Thanks Dave.
I read the black one is for lsp.
Just thought it might be a bit weird using a blue pad on the larger areas and a black pad on the small areas.
Might just order the black pad in both sizes.
I read the black one is for lsp.
Just thought it might be a bit weird using a blue pad on the larger areas and a black pad on the small areas.
Might just order the black pad in both sizes.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
unfortunately I bought without asking, so ended up with yellow, orange, green, white, black and red 6" pads, and the above 3" pads. I use black for finishing generally
Yeh I'd use the black pad for the glaze I'd imagine. May have a go with the wax on the black pad too but probably going to be a little difficult with the nattys paste.
