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My macbook just died.



sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.
172.com said:
I like to be able to mess around with my computers and upgrade them easily, with the parts I want, not with the parts Apple says I can (not that it's easy to get to the parts on a few macs).

I owned PC's for years and never upgraded them. Threw them away every couple of years and shelled out again for a replacement one because it could no longer handle the latest version of Windows.

What's great about owning a mac is that I don't have a need to upgrade anything, the only thing I've ever added to my G4 powermac is my Delta 44 sound card which is PC/MAC compatible.

Thankfully I don't have the "Graphic card OCD" disease that many PC owners seem to have.

172.com said:
I also don't like to pay over the odds for things, which aren't much better than their counterparts. To me it seems Mac users update their systems buy buying expensive new ones.

I think you'll find most mac users are using old systems because they perform quite reasonably over a much longer period of time than a ibm compatible pc would.

172.com said:
My systems evolve over time, a new part here, a new part there at a relatively low cost (I do accept their prices are coming down, however).

See above, my systems don't need to evolve. With each major release of OS X there appears to be bumps up in speed across the entire range of macs, not something that happens in windows land. Again, it increases the longevity of a mac.

Thankfully I also don't have to do the once monthly re-install of windows because it has randomly slowed down.

172.com said:
Also my PCs rarely crash, hell I'd say the Mac users in the office restart more than me.

I've never seen my powerbook crash in nearly 2 years of ownership. I saw my G4 tower crash once, but that was my fault as I was developing a device driver. Pre OS X things were different, I'll give you that, buying NeXTSTEP was the best thing Apple ever did.

As always, your mileage may vary.
 

sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.
63/500 said:
Oh yeah im bitter, i bought a centrino laptop last year and the bloody things never missed a beat - what i should have done was pay a few hundred quid more for a crapbook with a smaller screen, a slower processsor which would now not work as it'd died with the rest of it.

Oh yeah real bitter. I like self destructing hardware.

You are! :rasp: already told you once to re-install and migrate!

I bought a G4 powerbook nearly 2 years ago and it's not missed a beat either. We're both happy then. :)
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  i3
Thats true, and its lasted quite a long time, but then it was £1900 in 2000

And thats without the £200 optional cd drive.
 
sn00p said:
Thankfully I don't have the "Graphic card OCD" disease that many PC owners seem to have.


Thats a bit of an ambigous comment really. PC GAMERS are the guys constantly striving for more performance and upgrading to the latest hardware, not PC owners as such. I mean no offence in saying this, but serious gamers dont own Macs, simply because traditonally they are not exactly the gamers format of choice software wise.
 
On the subject of crashing, the only PC I've ever had that had crashing problems did so because of a faulty SODIMM memory module (laptop). Other than that, I've never ever had a stablitly issue with XP. My self-built games machines have always been on 24/7/365 and have never ever crashed or NEEDED the OS restarting. Not once.

I do agree that Macs are sexy mofos though, and the OS is nice. Fantastic machines but I've just never felt the need to own one. All these latest horror reports of hardware issues dont help. Next week, lets write some OSX virus' :D
 
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sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.
Roy Munson said:
I do agree that Macs are sexy mofos though, and the OS is nice. Fantastic machines but I've just never felt the need to own one. Avirus' :D

Are you sure you're a PC owner?! I'm about to feint!
 
I refuse to ever comment on a Mac vs PC thread again.

I've yet to see any solid argument.. "They are s**t" "expensive garbage" is complete and utter rubbish to be fair ;)

Do some research.

Anyway, last post ever on the subject. :)
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
63/500 said:
Oh yeah im bitter, i bought a centrino laptop last year and the bloody things never missed a beat - what i should have done was pay a few hundred quid more for a crapbook with a smaller screen, a slower processsor which would now not work as it'd died with the rest of it.

Oh yeah real bitter. I like self destructing hardware.

LOL you cant be that worried about reliability you bought a Clio ;)

Let me guess that has never broken down either LOL

I used to not be a fan of Macs, but I bought an original Mini and fell in love with it. Now have a Mac Book and a newer mac mini. I am using Bootcamp as well as there are things that are FAR easier to do on a PC than on a Mac.

Also planning to build a Games machine again! I love PC's and MAC's
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
Daz said:
I refuse to ever comment on a Mac vs PC thread again.

I've yet to see any solid argument.. "They are sh*t" "expensive garbage" is complete and utter rubbish to be fair ;)

Do some research.

Anyway, last post ever on the subject. :)

Can I get a High five for Macs ;)
 
  Revels Mum & Sister
172.com said:
Funny, I remember OS8 being a bag o' sh*te. Now that thing crashed... a lot. The guys at that place would restart 4 or 5 times a day, yet the NT4 network I ran (albeit, a small crappy one, as it wasn't really my thing) never failed in the 9 months after I set it up.

Anyways, it's a pointless argument, each to their own. Who wants a kiss?

I wanna kiss your bum lips so bend over
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Nik said:
Sounds like you need IBM ;)

Forget all this shiny brittle designer crap, you want a big solid lump of black plastic!

So true. Certain Third World countries have been known to armour-plate their vehicles with ThinkPads... ;)

D.
 
  A red missile
Rasclart said:
LOL you cant be that worried about reliability you bought a Clio ;)

Let me guess that has never broken down either LOL

I used to not be a fan of Macs, but I bought an original Mini and fell in love with it. Now have a Mac Book and a newer mac mini. I am using Bootcamp as well as there are things that are FAR easier to do on a PC than on a Mac.

Also planning to build a Games machine again! I love PC's and MAC's[/quote

Really? i've been using the god-awful shitheaps for 10 years and they're still as crap as they've always been, only people that will tell you different are the idiots that have actually bought one with their own money and defend them to the hilt.

I'm a professional user, i dont just surf the web and listen to itunes, try doing something that pushes a mac - it'll generally push it over.
 
  A red missile
If you want to talk about ignorance, the only reason that designers use them is that in the early days of dtp Apple had a really crap GUI before windows did and it had a built in microphone so you could record yourself farting. Designers bought macs because DOS was crap, simple as.

I find Apple fanboys amusing, i bought this expensive sh*te so i'm cleverer than you :rolleyes:

Dont fret your little head sonny - you're not alone.
 

sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.
63/500 said:
If you want to talk about ignorance, the only reason that designers use them is that in the early days of dtp Apple had a really crap GUI before windows did and it had a built in microphone so you could record yourself farting. Designers bought macs because DOS was crap, simple as.

I find Apple fanboys amusing, i bought this expensive sh*te so i'm cleverer than you :rolleyes:

Dont fret your little head sonny - you're not alone.

If they're so sh*t now, why do these "historical" users keep buying and using them? If all these applications exist (or equivilents) on Windows, then why aren't they all going out and replacing their macs with with ibm compatible PCs?

I don't buy the whole "We've had them for x years, we'll carry on for the sake of it".

I find Apple hateboys amusing. :rasp:
 
  A red missile
I find the cash i save buying high spec IBM compatibles amusing :D

especially when i hear about yet another crapbook going to computer heaven ;)

Yes various companies i've worked for have had them, i work in reprographics, its a service industry, we have to deal with the sh*te we get supplied, designers are dim and fall for the think different b****cks, its form over function with those knobs.

My hands are tied, gives me a good laugh though - and loads of ammunition.
 
  106 GTi
Jeezus this tread gets better first I am an idiot as I have brought a mac with my own money, and now I am dim as being a designer. Chill out it's only a box of jiggery pokery used to get jobs out the door, no need to get so personal. lol

I use Macs as until I went to college I had never used a Computer and when I did it was a Mac, which is industry standard for the print based design world. They do everything I need them to do which works for me.

I have a couple of old machines at work running O.S 8.6 thet have never been restarted in years, that are used for stuff liking running RIPs and scanning, so they cant be that crashy.
 

Red Cup

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus RS
On Windows can you...

Drag an image from a website straight into your graphics app (without copy+paste)? No.

Grab a selection of the screen and copy to buffer or straight to a file (with no additional software)? No.

Use the colour picker to select a colour on a website or part of a running app? No.

Open a file with an app just by dragging it to that app's icon? No.

These are tiny little things that I do most days that make the machine a pleasure and not a chore to use. Cost is irrelevant, work paid for it.

I'm very happy in work and it appears you're not so it looks like I have the last laugh ;)
 
  A red missile
Which of the mac dullards spat this?

dummy.jpg


muahahahahaha
 
I find it interesting had this been a thread posted by someone about a PC related problem people would have helped and mac owners wouldnt have jumped into it trying to pick fault or score points. However because its a mac all the smart arse remarks and attempts and oneupmanship get trotted out.
 
  A red missile
Rich said:
Jeezus this tread gets better first I am an idiot as I have brought a mac with my own money, and now I am dim as being a designer. Chill out it's only a box of jiggery pokery used to get jobs out the door, no need to get so personal. lol

I use Macs as until I went to college I had never used a Computer and when I did it was a Mac, which is industry standard for the print based design world. They do everything I need them to do which works for me.

I have a couple of old machines at work running O.S 8.6 thet have never been restarted in years, that are used for stuff liking running RIPs and scanning, so they cant be that crashy.

Yeah, you have to make things look pretty on an A4 sheet of paper, professionals like me have to turn it into a workable piece of print. Bloody designers have no idea how it happens nor could they grasp it most of the time. What do you design for? Litho? Flexo? Gravure? Dry Offsett? Aluminium Cans? Shrinkwrap? Packaging? Liquid Packaging? Corrugated? know the difference? Designers - i've s**t em.

Running RIPs? for what a colour printer?
 
  106 GTi
If any designer is doing there job properly and have been supplied the correct print specs for a job there is should not be a problem. We do a wide range of jobs, most print work is Litho printed, but we do a lot of packaging work on a variety of board, and are currently doing some Ali drinks cans. You will find those designers that have artworkers to do anything after the creative is done have no understanding of the print process.

But I do see where you are coming from, we get sent artwork from other agencys that is still at a visual stage!
 
  172
Red Cup said:
On Windows can you...

Drag an image from a website straight into your graphics app (without copy+paste)? No.

Grab a selection of the screen and copy to buffer or straight to a file (with no additional software)? No.

Use the colour picker to select a colour on a website or part of a running app? No.

Open a file with an app just by dragging it to that app's icon? No.

These are tiny little things that I do most days that make the machine a pleasure and not a chore to use. Cost is irrelevant, work paid for it.

I'm very happy in work and it appears you're not so it looks like I have the last laugh ;)
On Windows can you...

Drag an image from a website straight into your graphics app (without copy+paste)? Yes

Grab a selection of the screen and copy to buffer or straight to a file (with no additional software)? Yes

Use the colour picker to select a colour on a website or part of a running app? It's possible to get a website colour with a FF extension and I'm sure there's a program you can do it with somewhere.

Open a file with an app just by dragging it to that app's icon? Yes

Wow look at that, you can do all those things in windows. Any more "good" reasons for hating it?

Red Cup said:
Carry on, your ignorance amuses me ;)
Seems ignorance is widespread.
 

sn00p

ClioSport Club Member
  A blue one.
172.com said:
On Windows can you...

Grab a selection of the screen and copy to buffer or straight to a file (with no additional software)? Yes

How? Have I been suffering with pasting into paint all these years? Tell me more.

172.com said:
Open a file with an app just by dragging it to that app's icon? Yes

Doesn't the application have to be open and running on the task bar for this to work?

172.com said:
Any more "good" reasons for hating it?

And this is where you'll find that most Mac users differ with Windows users. We couldn't give a f**k about windows, we certainly don't hate it, we don't pop up in every PC thread on here spouting rubbish about how crap & s**t they are, it exists, get on with it, move along.....
 
Why would you want to open a file with an app by dragging it? Surely just double clicking the file is easier?

However, yes you can.
 
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bah, I'm out of hiding :p

I use both. I work in IT support.. and help manage Windows networks all day, every day. From big, big, big networks to small networks with no server and just Windows clients.

I can see the advantages of both OSX and Windows.
I enjoy using both.
Both work well.

I wouldn't be using OSX on some of the networks I help manage.. just because, the management and scalability of a Windows domain based on Active Directory is so good. Managing 100 OSX clients would be hell, I think.. altho, I've never tried OSX server.. but then, I've never had a need too.

My Macbook Pro goes everywhere with me.. and does everything I need perfectly.. so not one person can say to me: "OSX is s**t" just because, for me at least, it's perfect.

There. Have that. :rasp:
 
Roy Munson said:
Why would you want to open a file with an app by dragging it? Surely just double clicking the file is easier?

It would open in it's default app.. not an app of your choice..
Altho, right click file, open with works fine too :p
 
sn00p said:
Doesn't the application have to be open and running on the task bar for this to work?

No, you can drag a file into an apps shortcut and it will open with that app. Not something you often need to do unless you use the same file types in multiple apps. Even then I would normally right click/open with, but the method you describe does indeed work under XP :)
 
Daz said:
It would open in it's default app.. not an app of your choice..
Altho, right click file, open with works fine too :p

Yeah for sure, but you can just drag the file to the apps shorcut if you wish :eek:
 
  172
sn00p said:
How? Have I been suffering with pasting into paint all these years? Tell me more.

He didn't specify what he wanted to drag...

It's possible with things like text

And there's probably a program that does that.
 


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