New Clio Sport...

Hector · Oct 29, 2005

just been down to the renault dealer to see the new clio... and got chatting about the new renault sport coming out next year. At first i thought he was talking crap, but then another renault guy came over and confirmed the same thing...

I know there has been a lot of talk on here about what engine the new clio sports will be getting. They said, there will be a 150bhp model, and later in the year, a 225bhp TWIN turbo!.... by now i was quite sceptical...:S

I asked why they would put a twin turbo in, and asked why they wouldnt simply stick the megane 225 engine in, apparently the megane engine is too large?

Any comments on all the above? Is it all rubbish? I thought they were putting a tweaked version of the current engine in...

Saner · Oct 29, 2005

well. Fred's putting a Megane engine in his clio, so that answers that part

Hector · Oct 29, 2005

yeah i thought that bit would be crap, seems wierd they would consider a twin turbo to me

M1TCH · Oct 29, 2005

I read something in the times motoring section a couple of years ago. A lot of companies are now developing turbo and supercharged engine. I think VW a bringing out there first one in 2007 being a golf, starting with the 1.4 twin thingy, it will have a turbo and a supercharger which gives more power and better economy than the current 1.4. I think pug, and a couple of others are hoping to have all there car ranges offering turbo engines on the smaller models by 2010. Maybe renault are considering something similar to this.

Flamered12 · Oct 29, 2005

I wouldnt rule the twin turbo idea out completely just yet, think of how weird it would have seemed wen they were talking about putting the v6 in the back of a mk2 ph1!!?? renault seem to think just that little bit further out of the box than other manufacturers sometimes don't you all agree?

Hector · Oct 29, 2005

i think it seems pointless to me putting it in a front wheel drive car. Actually the turbo idea wouldnt surprise me though, because even people with 182s would change to a turbo just for the tuning potential so it would be a good move for renault like that in that sense..

edde · Oct 29, 2005

I've heard about a GT 140~150hp model being made probly a top of the range none RS car).
The only turbo engines will be diesel the new RS is a 6 speed with 192~197hp (most likly 197 which will be equal to 192UK HP).
The Megan engine will fit (after all its basically a 172 engine) but its not going to. They problem would be trying to get the gearbox in which is a pain as its so large the 197 or whatver RS clio uses a smaller new generation gearbox but its not strong enough to take the abuse that the turbo could give it (its limited to 240NM).
The twin turbo that VW use is a superchraged/turbo charged engine for emmisions etc. You don't need a proper twin turbo ie sequenchial turbo.

Lee · Oct 29, 2005

The new petrol RenaultSport Clio will not have a turbo. This has been confirmed time and time ago. Dealers don't have the foggiest what they are talking about. My car gets referred to as "the red one", that's how much they know.

That 150bhp one sounds like a good warm hatch, and a direct competitor to the Fiesta.

Hector · Oct 29, 2005

haha, i believe u lee, just thought i'd post up what they said, if they had said single turbo i might have been more inclined to believe it, but not twin turbo..

rcp · Oct 31, 2005

It definately won't have a turbo I'm afraid.

chris-b · Oct 31, 2005

I heard it was going to be 192bhp NA.Hope its more if the thing weighs as much as it looks.

bmh.01 · Oct 31, 2005

As previously said, according to novemeber top gear there will be 140hp Nissan-Renault engined one as well.

lee_cup · Oct 31, 2005

i heard they are gonne be brigning out a 3.0l turbo 4wd version, haha just kidding.
Renault and others seem to be saying a lot of things, but im quite excited to see what they will actually bring out

Andi-B · Oct 31, 2005

The New RS wouldnt benefit from 150Bhp ... Its heavier than the existing 182 and it wouldn't be as fast as the ST fiesta, Still ... There have been loads of people saying on here that it wont even see a turbo and will still stick to the 2.0 engine but .. at the end of the day it'll be renaults decision, should be fun to watch what they decide! lol

And as I've learnt from first hand experience Hector... dont always believe what sales staff tell you... they're only there to make your mouth water and to take your hard earned readies off you

Jeremy Townsend · Nov 1, 2005

No turbo. The 140hp version comes out towards the end of next year

chris172 · Nov 1, 2005

140hp!!!

lawrence · Nov 1, 2005

i thought they were bringing an RS diesel that was 140bhp? then the range topper 197bhp RS? is it true if you secify larger alloys on the new clio you get enlarged front wings too?

Jeremy Townsend · Nov 1, 2005

No Renaultsport diesel agreed.

The are 3 sizes of front wing on New Clio. Standard with 15" wheels, slightly wider with the 16" wheels and the extended wings with air extractors for the Renaultsport

Martin_172 · Nov 1, 2005

i heard the 140bhp diesel thing too but it wasnt an RS one.

Paul J · Nov 1, 2005

Jeremy, any idea of expected weight for the RS? Or how the power gains are achieved over the 182?

Chili Red · Nov 1, 2005

Everyone's soooo dying for there to be a really fast new Clio (including me!).

I hope they change their minds about the turbo one day, it would be nice to have a Clio that can compete with the bigger, faster cars.

At the moment it sounds like the new one won't be any faster than the current 182.

polarbert · Nov 1, 2005

Lee said:
My car gets referred to as "the red one", that's how much they know

polarbert · Nov 1, 2005

theres a survey here: http://www.renault-sport.com/en/gamme/enquete.php

dont know if anybody filling it in will change the design of the car but it could be worthwhile, i filled it in a couple days ago

badinvincible · Nov 1, 2005

Who cares if it's a turbo or not? As long as it takes over the Mk2 RS as the best pound for pound hot hatch out at the minute.

Alex_225 · Nov 1, 2005

I guess the performance all depends on what other RS models they intend on making.

I wouldn't have thought they would power the RS Clio with a twin turbo and over 200bhp and keep the RS Megane at 225bhp. Unless they intend on upping the power on both cars significantly it would defeat the point of the other RS models. (If that makes sense lol)

I would have thought that power wouldn't be hugely up on the 182, probably a 192!!

Just seems logical to me!

Hector · Nov 1, 2005

^makes sense

Alex_225 · Nov 1, 2005

Still think it would be cool ir Renault did something redical with the new RS Clio as they set the standard in 2000 with the Mk1 172 which so many manufacturers followed (206 Gti 180, Mini Cooper S, Fiesta ST etc).
But I personally don't reckon its not gonna be a huge difference over the 182.

An RS Megane 3.5ltr V6 would be something cool though haha

Phill1978 · Nov 1, 2005

the "twin turbo" there refering too i asusme is the same engine thats in the megane 2.0T 225 with Twin SCROLL turbo.

Alex_225 · Nov 1, 2005

So what is a twin scroll turbo??

I'm still thinking that the Clio is unlikely to have a turbo but thats just me! lol

edde · Nov 1, 2005

AlexJMills said:
So what is a twin scroll turbo??

I'm still thinking that the Clio is unlikely to have a turbo but thats just me! lol

The new Clio RS won't have a turbo. Everyone on here who knows has said so and even the Renault brand manger Jerrery who's posted on the thread has agreed.

The twin scroll turbo is some fancy turbo which is supposed to reduce lag and increase low rpm boost I think.

Phill1978 · Nov 1, 2005

edde said:
The twin scroll turbo is some fancy turbo which is supposed to reduce lag and increase low rpm boost I think.

not supposed it does cut lag, hence the megane rs hasnt any lag, its the same design and parts as featured in mitsubishi`s evo

learn something new everyday

Nafoff · Nov 1, 2005

meggerman said:
not supposed it does cut lag, hence the megane rs hasnt any lag, its the same design and parts as featured in mitsubishi`s evo

learn something new everyday

yes because mitsi worked on the engine i think....well i was looking under the bonnet of a meg 225 and was told by the owner to look there....oh ueah mitsi badges...lol

Fred@BTM · Nov 1, 2005

The turbo on the Meggy RS is made by MHI = Mitsubishi Heavy Industries

i have 2 of them in my shed

Josh@Renparts · Nov 1, 2005

Lee said:
The new petrol RenaultSport Clio will not have a turbo. This has been confirmed time and time ago. Dealers don't have the foggiest what they are talking about. My car gets referred to as "the red one", that's how much they know.

That 150bhp one sounds like a good warm hatch, and a direct competitor to the Fiesta.

Performance GTI say the new sport will have a turbo.

Fred@BTM · Nov 1, 2005

PGTi are wrong as are most of the Dealerships in the UK

The bloke in charge of the clio brand for the UK has CONFIRMED the car WON'T be turbo

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