Off to K Tec Tomorrow

Rob33 · Nov 19, 2004

Hi all im new here just bought a 03 Cup, ive been heavily into Racing Pumas for five years but needed a new direction and for the money nothing can touch the Cup, its taken me two weeks to get used to the very responsive throttle pedal, anyway im off to K Tec tomorrow to chat with the guys there, hope its worth the hour and a half drive.

Rob

Little Newms · Nov 19, 2004

Welcome to the club fella, lets hope your cup aint like mine..... And yeh they r top blokes at that place, worth it

Rob33 · Nov 19, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Little Newms on 19 November 2004
Welcome to the club fella, lets hope your cup aint like mine..... And yeh they r top blokes at that place, worth it

Why whats up with yours?

sexysez · Nov 20, 2004

K tec lot are well nice, gave me a free grill and sticker when my bloke took my car up!

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

Racing Puma?

Got any pics - I like them!

sexysez · Nov 20, 2004

Hair Dressers cars

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004

Hair Dressers cars

Nothing wrong with a hairdressers car!

Racing Pumas are the nuts, wide archs, 17s, pumped up engine. Very ltd as well.

bambam1 · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004

Hair Dressers cars

yes but a hair dressers car with attitude, not the quickest in a straight line, but will destroy most anything on the road through the twisty stuff, handling is far superior to aything else ive ever had the pleasure of driving

IMHO it looks more agressive than the clio too, just needed to sit lower to the ground

engine is highly tuneable, as withmost ford engines, is left in a low state of tune and heavily restricted

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

About 160bhp arent they?

Good from a 1.7!

sexysez · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by bambam1 on 20 November 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004

Hair Dressers cars

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yes but a hair dressers car with attitude, not the quickest in a straight line, but will destroy most anything on the road through the twisty stuff, handling is far superior to aything else ive ever had the pleasure of driving

IMHO it looks more agressive than the clio too, just needed to sit lower to the ground

engine is highly tuneable, as withmost ford engines, is left in a low state of tune and heavily restricted

theres your problem

bambam1 · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004

Quote: Originally posted by bambam1 on 20 November 2004

engine is highly tuneable, as withmost ford engines, is left in a low state of tune and heavily restricted

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theres your problem

they are far better than you would ever think, IMHO they are stronger and more versatile than any renault clio engine

remember you own a clio 1.2, i know what id rather own (both looks and performance)

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

The ford zetec engine is actually a very good engine.

Holds up to turbo conversions better than renault engines and responds very well to breathing mods.

Ford have set benchmarks in engines for a long time, dont doubt them. Youll prob be suprised to know that most of the performance engines are de-tuned.

Ford actually instructed Cosworth to knock power down on the Sierra as they didnt think it was PC!

sexysez · Nov 20, 2004

well maybe you should join the puma group then and not waste your time with the sh*tty clios

would be nice to have a bigger engine but you gona pay my insurance?

bambam1 · Nov 20, 2004

i would but i dont own a puma, i own an elise, though used to own 2 clios, have got to know so many users on here (originally joined nov 02)

trust me, your insurance would be cheap compared to mine, but we wont go into the reasons for that

point of my posting - the FRP is a better overall package than the Clio 172 IMHO

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

Just because you like something doesnt make it better. The 172 cup is a very good car but so is the Racing Puma.

Rob33 - you got any pics?

bambam1 · Nov 20, 2004

dont get me wrong matt, i love the 172/cup and 182, but for driving pleasure i think the frp has it sewn up

just a complete package

id guess the clio is slightly quicker point to point or on a track, but how often can you safely use 100mph+ on the roads? the frp gives pleasure beyond speed, its just too much fun on b-roads with a very calm nature on a and m roads

Matt16v · Nov 20, 2004

I like em though!

Id "prob" have one over a 172 if I went back to n/a cars.

rmccardal · Nov 20, 2004

Rob ... did you hang around pumabuild lots ?

Little Newms · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Rob33 on 19 November 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Little Newms on 19 November 2004

Welcome to the club fella, lets hope your cup aint like mine..... And yeh they r top blokes at that place, worth it

Why whats up with yours?

lol do i search mate, u will then see, lets say nine prob, 2 aa visits and to the dealers 5 times, but touch wood all is good now

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Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Matt16v on 20 November 2004
Racing Puma?Got any pics - I like them!

Ive been in Performance Ford mag about 4 times this year with it, number plate was V33 AND and it was no 33 out of 500, Ill post a pic.

Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by rmccardal on 20 November 2004
Rob ... did you hang around pumabuild lots ?

I still do, I was with Alan when he started Pumabuild.

Winston · Nov 20, 2004

Welcome to the club dude

Puma racings kick ass, Ill have look in my mates ford mags for it, Enjoy your clio cup

Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

Errr, how do I post pics on this site

Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004Quote: Originally posted by bambam1 on 20 November 2004Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004 Hair Dressers cars yes but a hair dressers car with attitude, not the quickest in a straight line, but will destroy most anything on the road through the twisty stuff, handling is far superior to aything else ive ever had the pleasure of drivingIMHO it looks more agressive than the clio too, just needed to sit lower to the groundengine is highly tuneable, as withmost ford engines, is left in a low state of tune and heavily restrictedtheres your problem

Bye the way the Pumas engine was designed by Yamaha, not Ford.

The FRPs engine is almost at its limit tuning wise as the Ford Racing gurus have worked there magic to up the bhp 30 brake already, about 170bhp is the limit without a turbo, the Cup would trash the FRP in a dash, but I need to a little work on the handling department, just needs firming up a bit and sort the camber out, a set of KWs me thinks.

Ive got to get it sorted for spring as Alan at Pumabuild will be doing a trackday at mallory and he wants me to bring the cup to see how it fares against the Fat Pumas

[Edited by Rob33 on 11/20/2004 6:11:38 PM]

Winston · Nov 20, 2004

How to up load pics

http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=48568&PagePosition=1Click

Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

I think ive bust my Mac, cant upload anything, when i try and fill the form in it says ive done something wrong.

Zmaster2k · Nov 20, 2004

I was at Ktec today mate! How long you there for? What time?

Rob33 · Nov 20, 2004

Left about 10:45am, after getting my carbon engine cover.

Lunner · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by sexysez on 20 November 2004

K tec lot are well nice, gave me a free grill and sticker when my bloke took my car up!

He must have done sommet special to get free stuff outa k-tec!!

Does he do sexual favours or sommet? ;-)

rmccardal · Nov 20, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Rob33 on 20 November 2004

Quote: Originally posted by rmccardal on 20 November 2004

Rob ... did you hang around pumabuild lots ?

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I still do, I was with Alan when he started Pumabuild.

Gotcha, met you a couple of times then. My friend Mike (miketheman2k) had frps 206 and 208, and I went on that parade lap at CasleCombe in the summer. Great laugh.

Welcome to cliosport.

(speak to Andy at GDI before you spend any money with anyone else)

Fred@BTM · Nov 21, 2004

im sure an FRP would sound awesome with Throttle Bodies!!!! (itd go like LeeM on the way to buy p**n too!!!!)

miketheman2k · Nov 21, 2004

Hi Rob, are you the rob that we always chat to when we went to Pumabuild? Good man, I see youve done the right thing

Seriously though, for all you doubters out there, the FRP is not a fast car on the quarter mile, but thats not what its about. I can honestly say I havent owned a more exciting car (and by that I mean fun, not butthole puckering experience like the v6 on a wet day). The most accurate way of describing the FRP is that its alive. Imagine a clio cup, with more steering feel, quicker steering, more communicative suspension and probably a little more agililty....oh and the brakes, you can almost do endos.

They definitely have their downsides though, the brakes cost about as much a ceramic discs, they rattle more than an old clio and you will struggle to beat and 1.6 focus down the straights. But take it on any B-road and youll realise! oh yeah baby.

For all the ex-FRP owners on this site:

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1101025515__Puma012.jpg

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1101025690__inside.jpg

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1101026055__front.jpg

Andyvalver · Nov 21, 2004

They look the nuts,i agree. Down a country lane though or some twistys, dont think it would be gettin away from a valver. unless it was a wet road.

Jim172CUP · Nov 21, 2004

so if it went as fast as it looks, itd be the daddy? wonder if an FRS engine would fit?

miketheman2k · Nov 21, 2004

Be more fun than the valver though mate

Me and ross (182) had a few b road blasts together, and unless there was an unusually long straight, there wouldnt be any difference, both have outstanding grip and strong engines.

The RS engine does fit, Alan @ Pumabuild has done it...280bhp puma:

http://www.pumabuild.co.uk/images/gallery/af_1l.jpg

Jim172CUP · Nov 21, 2004

looks nice and snug in there, bet it goes like sh*t off a shovel

Rob33 · Nov 21, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Jim172CUP on 21 November 2004so if it went as fast as it looks, itd be the daddy? wonder if an FRS engine would fit?

FRPs Times 0-60: 7.81
0-100: 22.92
1/4 mile: 16.35 These times are off my car and were featured in Perfofmance ford mag in August under the Cat Fight Feature.

Pumabuilds RS FRP with 300bhp now, Ive driven it a few times and its awsome, if its wet forget it

[Edited by Rob33 on 11/21/2004 5:45:51 PM]

Rob33 · Nov 21, 2004

Small world isnt it Mike

miketheman2k · Nov 21, 2004

Sure is Rob, I hope youll be winding up the puma bunch now

Rob33 · Nov 21, 2004

I still see Alan alot, in fact Ive been invited to a RR day with ultimateford.com on the 4th of dec, in the Clio

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