Oil - Again :/

[Andy^]

Hiya,

Ive had a 172 Sport new, from march this year. Its dont around 3700, and the oil sign lights up with all dashes on it....So i need to top the oil up.

Went to my local dealer, and they said the put MOTRIO 15/40 in all of there cars..

Phoned up where i got the car from, they said, only put Elf 5/40 in it, because thats what it comes with. I cant find any :/

Basicly....I need to know what oil i can top My 172 up with?!?

Cheers.

--Andy

 

[BRUN]

for a top up on such a new car you should be fine with Mobil 1 0W/40

 

[Andy^]

Fully synthetic oil, with Semi allready in there? Surley they wont mix....

How about Castrol Magnatex? 10/40


--Andy

 

[BRUN]

they will mix, and yours is fully run in so its time to start protecting it

castrol magnatec will be fine

i use silkolene myself though, love it

 

[jaspa]

Dont use Motrio 15/40, its cheap crap mineral oil which Renault dealers sell to trade

 

[Andy^]

So which is it?

Mobil 1 0W/40
Or
Magnatex 10W/40

Bare in mind its for a top-up only.....

--Andy

 

[BRUN]

as you seem to be sure you have 15-40 in at the moment, id go with the Magnatec

however, you should put that high a grade in your car some change time

they intentionally use a low quality oil at the start so the engine is allowed to completely bed in, you should be past that now

for a 172 id be using Silkolene Pro S 5W-50

ive found Silkolene oils to be much better from cold starts than Mobil oils, plus there a few £ cheaper and you get 5L in the bottle instead of 4L

www.silkoleneoil.com

btw im an oil freak hehe

 

[BRUN]

ARSE

here - however, you should put

i meant SHOULDNT, and COME change time, not some lol

 

[BRUN]

ARSE prt2.

and its 5W-40 not 50 as i said up there

 

[teady172]

Youre not doing too well there Brun!

I went for Shell Ultra Helix 5W - 40W, fully synthetic!

 

[GR7]

Ask the Captain or BenR they know about these things!

 

[BRUN]

i know teady, i had a bad day at work an didnt get much sleep last night, well thats my excuse anywayz

 

[Andy^]

No, at my garage they said they put that Elf 5/40 which is recomended in the manual in, in france when it was made...

I want the best for the car, as its a new car.... WHere can i get this;

Silkolene Pro S 5W-40

--Andy

 

[teady172]

Andy its exactly the same stuff, as long as its fully syn. and rated at 5W - 40W youre fine. Shell Ultra Helix, Magnetec and Elf(if you can find it) are all much of a muchness.

Ill stand corrected if anyone knows better!

 

[Andy^]

Oh and i CAN put fully synthetic on top of this...Elf 5/40(in the MK2 Manual) if i have it in there?

--Andy

 

[Andy^]

Might put some of this Shell Ultra Helix in then. Probably get it at a shell garage???

--Andy

 

[teady172]

If your going to be topping your oil up, I would go for a full oil and filter change to be on the safe side. You dont really wanna mix. I was under the impression that the 172 came with part syth/part mineral!?

 

[teady172]

Wait did I just contradict my self there!

I meant semi-synth!

 

[Andy^]

Yea, i need a semi synth....Thing is i just need a top of of oil till i get a service @ 6k.... The things drinking it at the moment.

--Andy

 

[BRUN]

suppliers are on the silkolene website

please please try it, you will never look back, i loved Mobil 1 until i tried this, and now ill never use anythin else

ive got 7L of 10W-50 oil unopended here, but because it aint Silkolene i bought some when i needed the change

its red too which is cool

you should be paying about £33 for a 5L container......

 

[teady172]

Why r u getting a service at 6K?

 

[Andy^]

Someone must of just topped up a 172 from new....

What did they use???

Bit of a waist of time full oil change

 

[BRUN]

o an forget the Elf hunt, its very hard to get hold of, i had to have some Total(same company) i wanted shipped from France, which is the 7L i have here, its racing spec oil, but i tried Silkolene and now i wont use anythin but that

 

[teady172]

I never topped it up. I changed the oil and filter. I was under the impression that all 172s came with 10W - 40W semi synth from the factory!

 

[Andy^]

Dunno, they said the service was free?

Ill probably only have the car till the new V6 comes out anyway... god i hate oils.

--Andy

Yes, olive oil too!

 

[BRUN]

Andy.....

if your toppin up....Magnatec dont do a 5W 40 as far as i know, but Castrol do an RS 0W-40 which would be fine so use a litre of that, or Mobil 1 0W-40

if your doin a full change then definitely go with the Silkolene, i promise you wont use any other oil once u try it

 

[Andy^]

Magnatec do a 10/40....the guys in Halfords (god forgive me for listening to them) Say that will go in nicely.

--Andy

 

[Andy^]

The oil is down to the minimum level on the dipstick, will 1 litre of what ever i get be fine?

--Andy

 

[teady172]

News to me Andy regarding the free 6K service.

V6, you serious? Id love to put an order down on one of those babies, just dont have the readies!

 

[BRUN]

it will go in nicely, but its thicker

my car was made in 1992 and has covered 82k.........and i have used a 10W-50

yours is brand new, you need an oil that can get into the very small gaps in your engine, i dont as mine will have larger gaps, older engine, more miles, old technology

if i used such a thin oil in mine however it would probably get where it shouldnt

trust me mate, ive read a lot on oils and listened to a lot of advice

if i myself had a 172, i wish, id be running it on Silkolene Pro S 5W-40.....switching to possibly the 10W-50 once it hit 50k miles, maybe a bit more

go with a 0W or a 5W for a top up.....for a full change go with a 5W

 

[Andy^]

Yea, me and my family love our cars, with a barn of German motors....Mines the only little frog in there.

--Andy

 

[Andy^]

OK, so the Shell Helix Ultra Fully Synth would be ok????

Even if i have a semi in there allready?

--Andy

 

[BRUN]

yes it will be perfectly fine

ive heard its a pretty decent oil too

 

[teady172]

I thought you couldnt mix the two Brun?

Oh, Im going do to a search on google, since the Cap doesnt appear to be about!

 

[Andy^]

Ok, worst case scenario....

I mix the 2, and stuff starts going wrong.....Will it mess it up, or do i just go get a full oil change?!

--Andy

 

[teady172]

Sorry andy ignore me, you can mix the two if u want.

My reccomendation still stands. Shell Ultra Helix 5W - 40W!

 

[Andy^]

Yes, but that Shell is fully synth....and i have (well think i have) 5/40 semi synth....


Hmmmmmm....as it says on the mobil site....

Can different synthetic motor oils be mixed together?
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is fully compatible with conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic motor oils and other synthetic motor oils, should it be necessary to mix them. But the superior performance of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will be reduced by diluting it.

 

[teady172]

Thats just sales patter, youll be fine!

 

[teady172]

Check <a target="_blank" href="http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/?f=4&t=5592this thread out!

 

[Man-Chun]

Ive ran RedLine 10w40 since the car had 1000 miles on the clock. But any sythetic (spelling) oil with a rating of 5w40 or 10w40 would be good enough. Heres a question for you guys tho, and Capt if your reading this , what oil should a turbo charged clio 172 run?. What good oil does a rating for 10w50?.

Chun.