Paint quote reasonable?

[Chowny]

Not in all places mate

 

[Pacman.]

Yes, 2 hours is ample time, not rushing either.

If you go off 5 hours to prep and paint a bumper, imagine how long it'll take for a full respray.

Prepping is not hard if done correctly, painting is not hard when done correctly.

If taught well and treat every job the same, your best, you can become a very good painter.

You including drying and curing time in that?

 

[Chowny]

25 minute for my lacquer now, bake time.
But you could paint a bumper in half hour and prep it in an hour.

Obviously a new or rub down with minimal damage bumper can be done within the hour, if the bumper is cracked, dented or stone chips, then that time will increase accordingly.

Are you a painter too pacman?

 

[Mr R.]

It's all very well being able to prep and paint fast but what's the quality like?

I've seen some shocking paint work but I guess it was rubbed over/masked up and painted very fast at not alot of money.

If it was my car I want it done right, not just the colour match but the paint finish and not seeing any masking lines. I'd never want to know that it's had paint work done.

 

[Pacman.]

25 minute for my lacquer now, bake time.
But you could paint a bumper in half hour and prep it in an hour.

Obviously a new or rub down with minimal damage bumper can be done within the hour, if the bumper is cracked, dented or stone chips, then that time will increase accordingly.

Are you a painter too pacman?

I used to paint aircraft and other stuff in the RAF. Used all sorts of paints and specialist coatings even the special paint that is applied to stealth aircraft which was a joy to work with lol.

 

[Gally]

Just nonsense to rub a bumper and paint it properly in 2 hours.

First off to attain the proper quality of finish on a classic car the entire old paint finish needs removing. Then the bumper needs initial full prime bake and rub. Nice and flat. Then back in the booth for a second time for colour.

Utter nonsense 2 hours on a used bumper.

 

[Chowny]

I actually just got a new job in GE, which is aircraft engines. So I can relate to you when I get trained up pacman, I look forward to the paints they use.

I'm sorry but if your not a sprayer you can't really call my comments utter nonsense? Colour changing a bumper can easily be done in 2 hours. As I said if it had more damage and needs 2k primer, then yes, obviously it's going to take longer. I was well known on clio16valver for doing good paintwork.
If any of you went to French car show you may have seen my car there which was the grey mk1 16v.

 

[Ant1]

Well dropped the M5 off this morning and was given my loaner

Knock back down to earth somewhat.

Had to drive home with the heaters and radio off to make sure I didn't run out of battery lol.

I asked about prep on the front bumper, they told me they only strip the paint on the chipped areas, well that's all of it than!

I'm not worried, any issues they will be redoing it, simple really.

They need the car for three days so it can't be to bad a job.

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[Silent_Scone]

Total work for mine after my little quibble with a bollard, and with the other work I want done is over £3,000. Hope that helps you get back into orbit with your bumper repair

 

[Ant1]

Total work for mine after my little quibble with a bollard, and with the other work I want done is over £3,000. Hope that helps you get back into orbit with your bumper repair :wink:

Yes I feel for alright.

Picked up the car this morning, to say i got a tear in my eye (for the wrong reasons) is a understatement. Side of the car has bad orange peel, none of the chips where filled in before paint, various dust marks in the paint, front bumper colour is just silver not with the green tint you get from moonstone, same goes for the rear bumper, and to finish it off i have a 1 foot wide paint run on the lower corner of the rear bumper.

Yes they are re doing it all but I have little confidence.

The car had paint on the side before and it was flawless, feel like I have gone backwards....

Will post up pics I a bit :-(

 

[Stay Puft]

Gutted

 

[Ant1]

These are phone pics so not going to look like there is a issue to some, paint run is horrendous but hard to get on camera. These are just some of the issues, i loads of little chips in paint.

 

[Mr R.]

Yes I feel for alright.

Picked up the car this morning, to say i got a tear in my eye (for the wrong reasons) is a understatement. Side of the car has bad orange peel, none of the chips where filled in before paint, various dust marks in the paint, front bumper colour is just silver not with the green tint you get from moonstone, same goes for the rear bumper, and to finish it off i have a 1 foot wide paint run on the lower corner of the rear bumper.

Yes they are re doing it all but I have little confidence.

The car had paint on the side before and it was flawless, feel like I have gone backwards....

Will post up pics I a bit :-(

How the fcuk do they think that's good enough is bonkers mate.

Hope you get it sorted to your satisfaction.

 

[Ant1]

Maybe I expect to much, dunno, children are starving in the world and I'm crying over paint, makes me feel bad, genuinely.

 

[Mr R.]

Maybe I expect to much, dunno, children are starving in the world and I'm crying over paint, makes me feel bad, genuinely.

Me too, I'll put some fuel in the Spec C and go out for a drive to cheer myself up.

I know what you're saying mate, but still you've paid to have the job done to a standard.

 

[Stay Puft]

That colour difference is laughable! How can they look at that and then think 'car is ready, ring the customer to collect..'

 

[Mr R.]

Shocking mate.

 

[Ant1]

I though I had a dent in the rear 1/4 along the crease line, nope it's a large patch of what looks like paint run.... can't photograph it. Laquer is smooth but panels are covered in loads of these dimples in the paint by my finger, 50 plus, can only see them at angles. Is it dust in paint? Gally will know.

 

[Daz.]

^^^^ That paint is utter w**k!

 

[Ant1]

Damage to the front bumper which I assume is when the removed the kidney grills.

Front sensors not painted..

 

[Mr R.]

Have you paid them mate?

 

[Ant1]

Yes I paid them, perhaps I shouldn't have but me not paying them may of caused more issues in the long run.

Maybe the average person would t of noticed the faults.

 

[imprezaworks]

Sometimes paying strong money doesn't always result in winning. Well for the customer anyway.

Hope you sort it.

 

[Ant1]

Sometimes paying strong money doesn't always result in winning. Well for the customer anyway.

Hope you sort it.

I know but I didn't think 1k was strong.

 

[imprezaworks]

I hope they rectify the issues mate.

 

[Silent_Scone]

If mine is like that it's going straight back in.

 

[cat171]

They are having a laugh mate! Considering they were supposed be good etc, that job is crap.

 

[Amos91]

Bodyshops really f**k me off. So much s**t out there.

Pay by credit card?

 

[Ant1]

Don't have a credit card lol, just normal debit.

I fired all the photos over and a email to the owner of the body shop telling him I wanted everything rectified when the car goes back in. There is more that I have not mentioned, don't want to bore you any more lol.

Other than two chunks on the front bumper, the car has come out worse than when it went in

 

[Ant1]

Trying to tag gally, how do you tag people?

 

[Mr R.]

Trying to tag gally, how do you tag people?

@gally @gally @gally @gally.

 

[Pacman.]

f**k me that looks like they painted it in 2hrs!

Loos like they have rushed it to get it out the door.


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[Scrooge]

I'm yet to ever see a perfect paint job in real life, I always spot it. I've also never found a paint shop I'm happy with.

The standard above is truly ducking shocking but about what I've received in the past tbh

 

[Gally]

I won't go on a rant mate. It's not even to do with the average person spotting it... A blind man could spot that.

I do really try to refrain from condemning other people's work where possible. Something I was always brought up with, every business can have an off day... What you've imaged is beyond shocking. You may think that is small issues... It's not. Those things are major issues that leads to bigger concerns. These aren't normal things that happen in body shops now and again and they can be forgiven. That there will be their usual standard barring a few good jobs. That is fact I'm afraid.

To give you an idea. I tell every customer that the idea of coming to my bodyshop is that the car should be returned to a condition where little or no one can tell it has been repaired or painted.

If you strive for the above... There is a chance you'll get close. I always think the bodyshop should choose what is acceptable, not what the customer will accept. That simply leads you down the road which you've ended up with.

What is more concerning is didn't these guys come with a good rep?

Can you tell me what the breakdown of the repairs and paint were? Did they give you a proper quotation itemised?

I don't even understand painting over or lacquering over a chip... It's a f**king bodyshop... That's what it's in for!!!!

Rant not started...

 

[Ant1]

I won't go on a rant mate. It's not even to do with the average person spotting it... A blind man could spot that.

I do really try to refrain from condemning other people's work where possible. Something I was always brought up with, every business can have an off day... What you've imaged is beyond shocking. You may think that is small issues... It's not. Those things are major issues that leads to bigger concerns. These aren't normal things that happen in body shops now and again and they can be forgiven. That there will be their usual standard barring a few good jobs. That is fact I'm afraid.

To give you an idea. I tell every customer that the idea of coming to my bodyshop is that the car should be returned to a condition where little or no one can tell it has been repaired or painted.

If you strive for the above... There is a chance you'll get close. I always think the bodyshop should choose what is acceptable, not what the customer will accept. That simply leads you down the road which you've ended up with.

What is more concerning is didn't these guys come with a good rep?

Can you tell me what the breakdown of the repairs and paint were? Did they give you a proper quotation itemised?

I don't even understand painting over or lacquering over a chip... It's a f**king bodyshop... That's what it's in for!!!!

Rant not started...

I'm glad I'm not imagining things, it's a shame as from a distance the side looks good, only up close do you see the issues.

I guess we are going to have to see what happens when it goes back in. The quote wasn't really broken down, just panel prices and remove front bumper.

If they f**k up a second time I will asking politely for my money back, or else. Either that or they can go through the emabbarsement of paying another body shop to sort it out.

 

[Gally]

The reason I was asking about the quote is incase they were maybe blending some panels etc and that would give an easy excuse for the chips.

It's very poor if it's a proper bodyshop. Again making it even for guys like me to get customers to trust us with their pride and joy.

 

[Ant1]

The reason I was asking about the quote is incase they were maybe blending some panels etc and that would give an easy excuse for the chips.

It's very poor if it's a proper bodyshop. Again making it even for guys like me to get customers to trust us with their pride and joy.

Gotcha no they where supposed to paint the rear 1/4, rear door and than blend into the front door. There excuse for the front being out is due to painting the front wings to match....

All the little dimples on the paint he reckons flat and polishing would remove. Is that correct? The repair needed on the front and rear bumper itself was very good.

 

[Ant1]

Can't edit my post, the said the front end was noticeable as the wings where not painted at the same time.

Silverstone is silver with a hint of green in the paint, the bumper was just silver with flake.

 

[Gally]

That's just stupid and why would it not all be painted at the same time? Even if you painted it 2 years later the mix should be the same. We're talking exact measurements here, point grams.

The colour matching there is no excuse, sometimes you can forgive plastic to metal but that's the wrong shade.

 

[Ant1]

That's just stupid and why would it not all be painted at the same time? Even if you painted it 2 years later the mix should be the same. We're talking exact measurements here, point grams.

The colour matching there is no excuse, sometimes you can forgive plastic to metal but that's the wrong shade.

What are the chances they will get it right a 2nd time?