Passat came in on breakdown

[Russ_16v]

..... last week, cut out and the guy heard some rattling noise

There was also a hole in the block too, did a good job on that!

 

[Matt Cup]

Oops

 

[fletch8]

i have no idea what that is.

looks broke though. very.

 

[Laine_16v]

Good effort that, run low on oil?

 

[Dan519]

These the engines with the common oil pump failures?

 

[Stefan.]

all this german build quality my little frenchy has been the most reliable car ive had!!

 

[ditz]

So what's wrong with it then, lol!
Yeah, done loads of oil pumps on the 1.8's now!

 

[Russ_16v]

These the engines with the common oil pump failures?

It's not as common as you would believe on VW's Dan, Iv worked for the same VW garage for 8 years, and I have seen 2 that have failed due to the pump.

IMO like a lot of things, you hear about the 1000 that have failed, but not the 300,00 that are still going lol.

I will agree though that the pumps can be an issue on some models, strangely seems to be Audi's more though.

In contrast, the injector recall we are doing we have now done over 300 sets in the past 3 months (At a cost of £120 per injector, plus £50 wiring loom and bolts!)

So what's wrong with it then, lol!
Yeah, done loads of oil pumps on the 1.8's now!

It was a 2.0 TDi, 2009, lease car and as far as we can tell it was low on oil - not that it's admitted lol

 

[chriscummins7]

what a mess!

 

[ditz]

I was joking with the what's wrong with it lol! I've seen 2 1.8t's (in passats funnily enough) spit its innards out, the other oil pump failures also on 1.8s have all been caught in time and only damaged the turbos. Not seen a diesel do that yet.. Like you say low on oil.. Them lease cars are so unloved !

 

[Owen_m]

I work for cummins, when they spit a rod out the side, some of the bigger ones 19litre plus will carry on running with a whole in the block.... now thats powerful

 

[JackJack]

Ouch!

 

[Brett]

I think the technical term for that is "fucked"

 

[Bren Rogers]

Well and truly fubar'd

 

[matty w]

I work for cummins, when they spit a rod out the side, some of the bigger ones 19litre plus will carry on running with a whole in the block.... now thats powerful

Ive seen them run on there own oil aswell

 

[Leeshez]

Well thats the chewed that up. A proper job.

 

[Russ_16v]

Little update, a few pictures of the block now it's out the car

Punched a hole though that bracket too

 

[Gally]

That stuff puts the fear of god into me.

Happens on my car I get an engine for £100.

Happens on a Vag car... ££££.

 

[Russ_16v]

Engine for this one is £4200+ VAT - great for my purchase targets this month lol

 

[Jason_E]

LOL! Good effort.

The turbo went on my dads 2.0 TDI Scirroco last year as well. f**king unreliable VW's! We should all own Clios.

 

[Ian_182]

Just a question Russ.Why are these tdi's so expensive.Even still after a good few years.Take my type R fuel pump,A new one is around £200.For a battered 2003 tdci focus its £1000.
Is it the high pressure they work under that makes them so expensive as in special strength parts.I'm just curious and like gally says the difference in prices is massive between petrol and diesel.
Oh and just to make me laugh,could you tell me the price of a new engine for a 3.0tdi toureg or a 4.2 A8 tdi.

Thanks.

 

[Djw John]

Na it's the 5.0 v10 tdi you really want to know about!

 

[Ian_182]

Haha yes john that would be good to know also.

 

[Sir_Dave]

That stuff puts the fear of god into me.

Happens on my car I get an engine for £100.

lol. Part of the reason i sold the M3!

Entire 172, inc. engine = £500
M3, engine only = £4000.

 

[Ian_182]

I can understand an M car costing thousands dave,i just dont get why diesel parts are so expensive.

Here is an E46 M3 fuel pump.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-M3-3-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab695013f

And here is a ford focus tdci fuel pump.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOCUS-FUE...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3ca17fa4b7

Both these parts were found after a quick search,im sure there will be variations.

 

[Sir_Dave]

Its the high pressure (engine side) fuel pumps that are expensive for the TDi's Ian, the low pressure in-tank pumps are the same cost as normal petrol ones.

For my 206 hdi, when the low pressure fuel died, & subseqently pumped swarf throughoput the entire fuel system, the costs were roughly:

LP in-tank pump: £100
HP engine pump: £550
4 x Injectors: £500

When that still didnt fix the misfire, i got rid of it. Heap.

 

[Ian_182]

Thats what i mean all that cost for a 206.

Quite shocking really.

 

[Russ_16v]

Just a question Russ.Why are these tdi's so expensive.Even still after a good few years.Take my type R fuel pump,A new one is around £200.For a battered 2003 tdci focus its £1000.
Is it the high pressure they work under that makes them so expensive as in special strength parts.I'm just curious and like gally says the difference in prices is massive between petrol and diesel.
Oh and just to make me laugh,could you tell me the price of a new engine for a 3.0tdi toureg or a 4.2 A8 tdi.

Thanks.

As what Dave says below mate, plus injectors, fuel lines etc have to be reliable under massive amounts of pressure.



Oh, just for s**ts and giggles:

These prices are for new outright engines, you can buy exchange ones which drop circa 15% off the price.

These are complete engines, but with no ancilleries.



2013 year Golf Common rail 2.0 TDi engine £6,595.63p


2013 year Golf 1.6 TDi common rail engine £5,667.83


Then the big boys



2010 Touraeg 5.0 V10 TDi engine - £18,263.08p


2013 Audi R8 5.2 V10 petrol engine - £28.752.71p



And finally, ready for it?

Spoiler

2013 Audi Q7 6.0 V12 Diesel engine £36,110.15p

Its the high pressure (engine side) fuel pumps that are expensive for the TDi's Ian, the low pressure in-tank pumps are the same cost as normal petrol ones.

For my 206 hdi, when the low pressure fuel died, & subseqently pumped swarf throughoput the entire fuel system, the costs were roughly:

LP in-tank pump: £100
HP engine pump: £550
4 x Injectors: £500

When that still didnt fix the misfire, i got rid of it. Heap.

 

[Adam.]

Spoiler

2013 Audi Q7 6.0 V12 Diesel engine £36,110.15p

How much of that is courier cost? LOL

 

[Joe#]

I love the fact that the prices have pennies in them lol.

 

[Russ_16v]

How much of that is courier cost? LOL

We get FOC delivery

I love the fact that the prices have pennies in them lol.

I am accurate lol

 

[Sam@NP]

2010 Touraeg 5.0 V10 TDi engine - £18,263.08p

f**k about! How much is a box for one of these?

 

[Russ_16v]

f**k about! How much is a box for one of these?

Circa £5200 Sam, depending the exact model you have x

 

[Djw John]

£36k?!?! Wooft!

 

[Djw John]

Double post!

 

[Rob]

You really are selling me VW's Russ...

 

[Andy 172]

Nice trophy Conrod for the mantle peice, would look good next to my melted audi s3 piston and the turbo shaft from my old tdi Audi that snapped. Bloody vag's.

 

[Djw Dave]

Chemical metal should sort that out no??

 

[Gally]

You really are selling me VW's Russ...

Yeah. Vag is appealing to me more and more... Not!

 

[Padso]

Out of all the diesel cars ive owned over the past 10 years, some with well over 100k miles the Passat i have now for work has been the most unreliable.

First the injectors went..... fixed under recall. Then the starter melted itself stuck although a new one was only £75.

It has seriously put me off buying anotherVW let alone another diesel car. Bit of a false economy when something goes wrong.