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[Pepeniva]

Im trying to buy a recaro base seat from @JON FOZ. Im base in US.
Any safe payment method to do this transaction.
I asked for paypal but claiming. Paypal is no go when its international.

 

[Flob]

I don't know him but Jon Foz is well know on this forum and I have never heard anything to suggest he is a scammer, he has sold lots of seat subframes.

If you want the product I would suggest you do a bank transfer as requested.

 

[Pepeniva]

I don't know him but Jon Foz is well know on this forum and I have never heard anything to suggest he is a scammer, he has sold lots of seat subframes.

If you want the product I would suggest you do a bank transfer as requested.

Yea seems like his well known. Im new so just taking extra precussion.
But weird that he wrote "order outside of the UK is only bank transfer" scream scam especially for first timers like me.

 

[Flob]

Its a two way street. Often people will buy something via Paypal and then make a false claim stating that the parts did not arrive, or the box was empty. Paypal then defend the buyer who gets a refund and the seller loses out.

I'm sure other members who have bought from Jon Foz will post tomorrow (its later here) and hopefully put your mind to rest. Ultimately though its the sellers choice whether to sell something and how to receive payment.

Good luck.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Jon is probably the nicest guy you could meet off this forum.

He is 100% legit.

 

[dann2707]

Great that you're exercising caution mate. Not many people do and then wonder why they were scammed so absolutely fair play to you.

 

[Yarp]

Fair play for exercising caution, I can’t blame you but he is totally legit.

I got stung posting internationally after payment via PayPal. The tracking with the Royal Mail service I used was a bit random once it left the uk so PayPal paid straight out to buyer. It was only 50 quid or so, but now anything international either goes via eBay’s GSP where I post to their distribution centre and they send/track internationally or it’s bank transfer. As a seller, it’s not worth the risk/hassle of using PayPal internationally.

Plus at least if I get scammed in the UK it’s not far to go to drive a car through someone’s living room window as revenge.

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Any safe payment method to do this transaction.

You could fly over here and hand him cash in exchange for goods, but I'd bet that bank transfer is the more cost effective way to go...

As many others have said - he's trusted on here. You will have no issues doing as he suggested.

 

[Pepeniva]

Thanks guy. Golden rule here in state is paypal or no go. I will have to pass on it.

 

[Flob]

I don't think he is desperate to get scammed either. I've sold quite a lot of stuff to people in the States and bank transfer has always been fine. Jon is clearly not a scammer.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Sorry - I’m so confused.

You’re specifically looking for ‘Jon Fozz subframes’ who are sold by Jon Fozz himself. And you won’t pay by bank transfer in case it’s a scam?

Am I reading this right or have I missed something glaringly obvious?

 

[Martin_172]

Paypal always side with the buyer in these cases so assume he's been burned before.

if i was him id also be getting red flags with someone trying to buy something and have it posted to a country where the car wasn't ever available?

 

[Pepeniva]

Sorry - I’m so confused.

You’re specifically looking for ‘Jon Fozz subframes’ who are sold by Jon Fozz himself. And you won’t pay by bank transfer in case it’s a scam?

Am I reading this right or have I missed something glaringly obvious?

Yes, im not paying thru bank to bank. I am new, so i am not familiar here yet. Most def will do business w the him in future. For now, ill painfully wait for 3-5 weeks for other vendors to stock.

Thank you

 

[Pepeniva]

But if anyone here selling a recaro cs frame. I will def pay for a pair of those, paypal ready.

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Jon is 100% legit.

 

[PerthRS]

I got sent a set of CS frames + Clio2 adapters to Australia late 2021 from Jon.
Used PayPal back then. Since bank transfer didn't work. It was transacted as 'friends and family' so I needed to pay the fees involved.
After looking into it. The reason the bank method didn't work was because our banks don't allow international transfers unless you open a commercial account. I assume this is to protect against scams etc.

As others have said. Jon is 100% legit and genuine bloke.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

But if anyone here selling a recaro cs frame. I will def pay for a pair of those, paypal ready.

You’re in America. Nobody will accept PayPal from you I’m afraid.
Far too easy for you to claim they didn’t arrive and the seller then loses the money AND the product.

 

[Slowpoke Rodriguez]

You’re in America. Nobody will accept PayPal from you I’m afraid.
Far too easy for you to claim they didn’t arrive and the seller then loses the money AND the product.

This 💯 it’s not like you’d need the hassle and risk when there are literally thousands of Clio owners over here. I wouldn’t pay by PPG or bank transfer here in the UK, but I’m far less likely to accept it as a seller for transactions abroad. f**k that. Suspect you’re going to find it hard to buy parts from small Uk businesses or private individuals

 

[Racky]

But if anyone here selling a recaro cs frame. I will def pay for a pair of those, paypal ready.

Most people from the UK won't bother sending that thing in the UK, and you want someone to send it over to the states ? All the hasle and with the prospect not to see a penny?

Sorry - I’m so confused.

You’re specifically looking for ‘Jon Fozz subframes’ who are sold by Jon Fozz himself. And you won’t pay by bank transfer in case it’s a scam?

Am I reading this right or have I missed something glaringly obvious?

This sums it up.

 

[JON FOZ]

Thanks for all the kind words on this post.

Just to add,this guy asked me to supply my product after obviously doing his research,I haven’t tried to sell anything to him 🙌

My reasons for bank transfer for orders outside of the UK is that if customs stop my parcel then the buyer often reports this to PayPal which leads to a refund and me not receiving the goods back.

As a small,’one man band’ business,this has made me take the bank transfer option.

In all honesty though,it’s only ever Portugal that had major problems with customs.

Jon

 

[Pepeniva]

Thanks for all the kind words on this post.

Just to add,this guy asked me to supply my product after obviously doing his research,I haven’t tried to sell anything to him 🙌

My reasons for bank transfer for orders outside of the UK is that if customs stop my parcel then the buyer often reports this to PayPal which leads to a refund and me not receiving the goods back.

As a small,’one man band’ business,this has made me take the bank transfer option.

In all honesty though,it’s only ever Portugal that had major problems with customs.

Jon

Hey Jon, if you do photos and record everything, you should be safe. It is all up to you. If u ever do paypal to State (did i sent u my address already) shoot me a message.
PHotos are the reason why i need pair of those seat base. Nismo has diff seat base so i stole it from my other pair of recaro.

 

[Pepeniva]

I do dealings in UK almost everyday. I bought my sets of BBS rs2 and E88s from UK through IG and used by Paypal.
Appreciate you guys looking after your members.
I surrender and will look for other ways to get this unicorn seat base ✌️

 

[Oggy997]

I don't understand.
You want the manufacturer, with an established reputation, to take all the risk, but you none, when he has no idea who you are, and could easily disappear?

He can't, as its his brand and reputation.

 

[Cub.]

God, give me strength.

You want the “unicorn” seat frames then you will need to take the risk.

You don’t want them, get different seats.

This is shoe.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

God, give me strength.

You want the “unicorn” seat frames then you will need to take the risk.

You don’t want them, get different seats.

This is shoe.

Yanks gonna Yank.

 

[botfch]

Bank transfer in the UK since 2024 now have app fraud protection to protect against scams, so it may be worth looking if American banks also have the same system in place.
In which case you’d be covered against fraud.

Also just for general info the UK to US deminimis exemption was removed last week so anything below $800 is now liable for tax & import duties.