Pearl Black DCi Sport Rep

[Robiniho77]

So after persisting with my 5 door pearl black dci and getting it up together, this came up for sale:

Loads of you will recognise it from the forum back in 2011 and also more recently from Mark on here who’s used it as a daily for a while.

It needs a little tidying up:

- Headlight washers missing
- Dent in drivers door
- One side strip need repainting
- One injector is leaking

So far I’ve:

- Swapped over my dci badges to replace the silver wrapped things it had
- Swapped in my 5 doors 182 interior as I’d spent hours cleaning it for it to now be sold
- Swapped over some other trim bits (door handles ect)

So the radio is annoyingly aftermarket and the car doesn’t have steering wheel controls as standard...(weird for a dynamique)

I’ve got some Xenons coming along with some washer jets just to fill the holes rather than function.

Gonna run some injector cleaner through it and some v-power and just see how it goes for a while.

It drives fine and there’s no dash warnings until your giving it some on the motorway.

Plans are to tidy it up to mint again (I’ll find an old pic from 2011), get some front seats that actually fold down to get in the back and use the thing!

It’s a great starting point and I wanna improve it the best I can!

More pictures to follow..

Cheers

Liam


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[td_dan]

Looks Good.

Iv got a 1.5 dci in black sports rep that ill be breaking in the coming weeks if theres anything you need.

 

[Robiniho77]

Looks Good.

Iv got a 1.5 dci in black sports rep that ill be breaking in the coming weeks if theres anything you need.

Thanks mate, I’ll have a think about what I might need! Sure there’s some annoying little bits as with anything!


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[Martin_172]

Big Iain who used to be on here was breaking a pearl black dci on the MK2 Clio owners club on Facebook with colour coded side strips to save you painting the damaged one!

 

[Robiniho77]

Big Iain who used to be on here was breaking a pearl black dci on the MK2 Clio owners club on Facebook with colour coded side strips to save you painting the damaged one!

Thanks for this bud! Had a scroll down and could see it on there? When was this? Would be pretty helpful!


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[Robiniho77]

So (takes deep breath):

Clio went in to an injector specialist as it had leak back on injector 2 diagnosed a while back.

It was not good news:

Metal filings from the filter and injector 2 is shot (the others aren’t great).

Diagnosis of early fuel pump failure basically. (A luck of the draw thing on these dci’s. Some get it at 60,000 some at 160,000 some not at all).

The guy who did all this initial testing said “well this is the end of the road for it I’m guessing as it’s not worth the £££ sorting the whole fuel system”

There’s a huge part of me that wants to fix it all as the rep is what I’ve been hoping to build and keep for about 5 years of owning several dci’s.

But then there’s the cost of either:

- Doing a fair bit of it myself and sourcing the bits
- Getting the garage to do it (god knows the cost, £1000 at a rough guess)

Or option 3, break the car.

It owes me £600 so I’m guessing it’s whether to shell out on fixing it and having a working £1000 at best or £1600 at worse working car. Or count my loses and make my money back in bits...

It’s had a new clutch done around 100,000 miles and the tensioner and belts done seem that old.

Any thoughts or advice as I’m at a bit of a crossroads!

Cheers

Liam


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[GrahamS]

I’m at this point with our rep, I’m repairing it and taking a 10 year view on using it as a car which is pretty much brand new afterwards. £850 for parts including clutch, belts, fluids and everything’s to get the job done right. The work isn’t actually that bad, little more than a cambelt change but metal in the filter means you need to take the tank out and seriously clean it. I’ve decided to get a tank from a petrol and draining it to guarantee it hasn’t got filings in. The money is also pretty little when you compare it to a clutch change on a car with a DMF. The turbos on my BMW were in the thousands.

When the same happened with my previously rep I decided to break it and it was a bad decision. For the outlay you can’t buy another car that’s totally sorted and you know is reliable. The beauty of these cars is that they’re simple as anything, got all the kit and are really good when they’re working. Happy to share the list and part number of bits I’m using. Use PayPal credit or an interest free CC and it’s £200 a month for 4 months, a lot less than a lease!

 

[Robiniho77]

I’m at this point with our rep, I’m repairing it and taking a 10 year view on using it as a car which is pretty much brand new afterwards. £850 for parts including clutch, belts, fluids and everything’s to get the job done right. The work isn’t actually that bad, little more than a cambelt change but metal in the filter means you need to take the tank out and seriously clean it. I’ve decided to get a tank from a petrol and draining it to guarantee it hasn’t got filings in. The money is also pretty little when you compare it to a clutch change on a car with a DMF. The turbos on my BMW were in the thousands.

When the same happened with my previously rep I decided to break it and it was a bad decision. For the outlay you can’t buy another car that’s totally sorted and you know is reliable. The beauty of these cars is that they’re simple as anything, got all the kit and are really good when they’re working. Happy to share the list and part number of bits I’m using. Use PayPal credit or an interest free CC and it’s £200 a month for 4 months, a lot less than a lease!

Thanks for the slight vote of confidence! I think my main concern is how much I can do myself to save the money! If I need the garage to do it all, I might as well not bother!

Good shout with the tank from a petrol. I did begin to make a list at work:

- Fuel tank cleaned out / replaced - £20 for a second hand petrol one
- Fuel pump (second hand / refurbished) - £75 - £250
- Injector (2) or all 4 refurbished / cleaned - £100 - £400
- Fuel filter - £ have one already
- Fuel system flushed through - £100?

I'm sure there's more but at the moment that's £295 minimum or £770 potentially...

Factor in a Cambelt change at £200 for the bits alone...

Let me know what I've missed and i'll keep trying to think positively about it not being the end!

Cheers

 

[GrahamS]

This is my list. Only buy new or refurbished (by a huge well known company like PF Jones) injectors and pumps. Used are a mine field and can cost you more than you bargained for, I speak from when I bought a used pump and brand new injectors and the pump was knackered. You'd be replacing the fuel system so I'd just use brake cleaner in all the lines and flush them through several times. Same for the pump, common rail and injector pipes.

None of the tasks are remotely complicated, you just need to set aside a day or so to get the work done. I'm also doing preventative things like thermostat, dogbone and a few bushes but it's not really necessary. We've gradually build up the parts so the expensive isn't too painful.

Injectors	£ 360.00
Copper Washers	£ 9.76
Brake Cleaner	£ 20.00
Cambelt kit	£ 36.65
Cambelt Tools	£ 9.99
Fuel Filter	£ 13.09
Clutch	£ 64.85
Fuel pump	£ 240.00
Gearbox oil	£ 25.41
Water pump	£ 18.27
Glow plugs	£ 22.60
	£ 820.62

 

[Mbeau]

My old car ? Really sorry mate. I obviously knew about injector 2 as that is how I bought it and ran around in it while my roof was being replaced. Always started(eventually) and didn't let me down in the short time I had it! The leak test done just prior to me getting it just showed the problem with injector 2.

I did not know the pump was failing on it though. That is rubbish. For the time being can you not just get a second hand injector for number 2 and keep running it? That was my plan before I decided to sell and keep my petrol one. I had spoken with @GrahamS about coding one injector in for me too.

Did you get rid of your other DCI? When you collected I thought the plan was to pull sport bits off this one and fit onto the other one.

Not so expensive if you can do the bits yourself, but not so good if a garage has to do it as you have stated. Fingers crossed you are able to sort it without too much expense.

 

[Brigsy]

Well worth fixing if the rest of the car is decent and the engine is good apart from fuel system. Even if you spend just under a grand getting it right, it will most likely run fine until the car falls to bits, and a grand will only get another cheap car which probably will need repairs.

 

[Robiniho77]

Well worth fixing if the rest of the car is decent and the engine is good apart from fuel system. Even if you spend just under a grand getting it right, it will most likely run fine until the car falls to bits, and a grand will only get another cheap car which probably will need repairs.

For sure the rest of the car is worth it! Gotten to really like the car sorting loads of little niggles with it the last few weeks! Swapping in my cleaned interior ect.

Just don’t think I’ve quite got the knowledge to fix it myself even if I collated the bits over time.

The moneys not a problem (when it’s me doing it not £1400 at the garage) it’s just me being able to actually do it all.

I’ll mull it over next day or 2 as your right, a £1600 car that’s sorted could be better than another second hand one.

Chances are I’ll sell it on and hopefully someone else with the knowledge will do the work.


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[GrahamS]

Well worth fixing if the rest of the car is decent and the engine is good apart from fuel system. Even if you spend just under a grand getting it right, it will most likely run fine until the car falls to bits, and a grand will only get another cheap car which probably will need repairs.

Thats exactly why it's worth doing. If you look at the kind of cars around for just over a grand that do this kind of MPG they are all woofers, abused and in need of a lot of work.

For sure the rest of the car is worth it! Gotten to really like the car sorting loads of little niggles with it the last few weeks! Swapping in my cleaned interior ect.

Just don’t think I’ve quite got the knowledge to fix it myself even if I collated the bits over time.

The moneys not a problem (when it’s me doing it not £1400 at the garage) it’s just me being able to actually do it all.

I’ll mull it over next day or 2 as your right, a £1600 car that’s sorted could be better than another second hand one.

Chances are I’ll sell it on and hopefully someone else with the knowledge will do the work.


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Don't see that as a barrier. The Gates cambelt kit comes with fantastic instructions which make it fool proof. The rest of the bits are just simple bolts you undo and do back up with no skill needed other than care and cleanliness. If you were to do the tank it again very simple with the most complex bit being bleeding the brakes after (not complicated). If you wait a month or two I will have had mine done and will do a full write up on the procedure.

 

[td_dan]

Your welcome to come get the engine out of my dci 65. Supposedly 90k altho no proof, iv done cambelt, tensioners and waterpump also new oil and filter, i also took apart the injectors and cleaned them.

Im removing it in the next few weeks.

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