Ph1 172 Rust

[leeds_182]

Just chatting to a guy re a ph1 I’m interested in. I don’t know if it’s on here or not. Anyway, it’s got some rust in the filler cap - to me it looks like surface which doesn’t bother me as I’d get it painted.

Anyone any experience with some rusting here? They’re old cars now so I know it will be difficult to find one that’s split mint.

 

[NorthloopCup]

That looks to me like it's on the surface of a seam, so I'd be pretty confident to say that the tin worm is set deeper in than it's showing. Only real way to tell how far into the qtr panel it is, is to remove trim panels and stuff.

 

[leeds_182]

That looks to me like it's on the surface of a seam, so I'd be pretty confident to say that the tin worm is set deeper in than it's showing. Only real way to tell how far into the qtr panel it is, is to remove trim panels and stuff.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Daz.]

It'll be rusty all around petrol cap - you can see a little bit there at the top.

 

[Mr R.]

That looks to me like it's on the surface of a seam, so I'd be pretty confident to say that the tin worm is set deeper in than it's showing. Only real way to tell how far into the qtr panel it is, is to remove trim panels and stuff.

Yep. The rust will be between the 2 layers, even if painted it will come back through.

 

[Christopher.]

Yep also behind that black piece will be more.

I sorted mine last year. It was quite alarming once that piece was off.

 

[imprezaworks]

@MarcB

 

[Djw John]

Yeah that's gonna be much worse than it looks.

 

[Paul172sport]

Be worth checking inside the rear passenger trims as they rust out the bottom of the sills too.

 

[Coops Mk1]

As above, any that's made it to the visible panels on the car has more than likely made its way through from somewhere behind....

 

[Djw John]

As above, any that's made it to the visible panels on the car has more than likely made its way through from somewhere behind....

Agreed. This looked fine even with the sideskirt off

 

[fez]

friend had an 07 campus and it was much worse than that so some hold up extremely well

 

[botfch]

Rust there seems to becoming quite common now.

 

[Darren61]

This may help you -

https://www.cliosport.net/threads/fixing-rust-in-the-petrol-filler.804991/#post-11334521

 

[White16valver]

Agreed. This looked fine even with the sideskirt off

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Jesus.

Based on that, I'm not holding out much hope for my mk1...

Did you get it fixed? Did it cost a million pounds??

 

[White16valver]

Rust there seems to becoming quite common now.

I think it's a pattern that occurs in a lot of cars - they start to suffer rust at around the same point in their lives, which is usually around the time they are getting cheap, which means loads get killed off, leaving only a few left

Happened with the RS Escorts and Fiestas, happened with the mk1 Clios, looks like it's happening with the 172s... Makes me sad!

 

[Djw John]

Jesus.

Based on that, I'm not holding out much hope for my mk1...

Did you get it fixed? Did it cost a million pounds??

Yeah just patched it up using a fiesta bonnet. Because track car. All hidden by the skirts anyway

 

[White16valver]

Yeah just patched it up using a fiesta bonnet. Because track car. All hidden by the skirts anyway

haha Awesome

I fear my entire floorpan will separate from the body :weary: lol

 

[Djw John]

You're gonna need at least 2 spare bonnets then!

 

[Co182]

I waxoyl’d my 182 behind the rear quarter cards to protect the sills, the question is how does water get in, that hole that you can see was full of road dust so how it’s getting in is beyond me, it must lead somewhere? As for the petrol flap mines also clean but I’m gonna give it the waxoyl treatment at some stage. Shame to see these cars rust.


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[Akay]

Very common, dirt and crap builds up on the filler neck, holds moisture and eventually rusts through from inside. Drill the rivets out and the captive bolts for the filler cap (utter arse), treat it from both sides and paint, bolt the filler and cap assembly back on (dont need to use rivets). My ph2 is also rusting on the sills, around the fuel tank/rear beam mounts, and some random areas were underseal has been compromised.

 

[Akay]

I waxoyl’d my 182 behind the rear quarter cards to protect the sills, the question is how does water get in, that hole that you can see was full of road dust so how it’s getting in is beyond me, it must lead somewhere? As for the petrol flap mines also clean but I’m gonna give it the waxoyl treatment at some stage. Shame to see these cars rust.


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I believe it comes from the holes for the side strips or the roof gutter strips and runs down.

 

[hostler]

I'm afraid to take my side skirts off. No rust if you can't see it!

I once made the mistake of having a peek inside when I removed the rear interior "door" cards. It will need attention some day

 

[White16valver]

You're gonna need at least 2 spare bonnets then!

What I really need is a whole new shell! lol

 

[KitsonRis]

I removed half a bucket of water from the sills in my old Ph1 once. No idea how long that was in there for.

 

[barnesautos]

Took mine off recently to reveal bubbling .

This is not my track car , this is my other one [emoji1303]

Left side

Right side

I’m not sure how far it’s gone on the sills , but I dread looking at the fuel filler neck .

 

[Djw John]

Put the skirts back on quickly and buy some mind bleach!

 

[Willliams]

Found this on one of our donor cars.. I should've taken a pic before the sill was removed and I started to pick about lol

 

[Djw John]

Shiiiiiiiit

 

[green]

Wow! :fearscream:

 

[barnesautos]

Christ that’s deep rust @Willliams

 

[Coops Mk1]

defo going the way of the mk1's

 

[Willliams]

Christ that’s deep rust @Willliams

Frightening isnt it @barnesautos ! Its amazing how they vary. Both my garage queen and the track car are as clean as a whistle under there..! Then you get the monster in the pics.. :anguished: :grimacing:

 

[White16valver]

Frightening isnt it @barnesautos ! Its amazing how they vary. Both my garage queen and the track car are as clean as a whistle under there..! Then you get the monster in the pics.. :anguished: :grimacing:

Is that even fixable??

If so, at what cost??

I know welding is joining two bits of metal to create one, but surely with that level of rust, you could effectively just lift the entire outside skin of the car off the floorpan? lol

I fear mine is that bad 😧 😧

 

[scotiamr2t]

easily fixable. Scares a lot of people but its just a time consuming job to do properly, all the metal panels required to fix it are readily available

 

[hostler]

View attachment 1345142 View attachment 1345143 View attachment 1345144 Found this on one of our donor cars.. I should've taken a pic before the sill was removed and I started to pick about lol

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I'm scared.

 

[Willliams]

Is that even fixable??

If so, at what cost??

I know welding is joining two bits of metal to create one, but surely with that level of rust, you could effectively just lift the entire outside skin of the car off the floorpan? lol

I fear mine is that bad 😧 😧

As mentioned, it could be fixable.. Replacement sill sections are available from the like of Euro Car Parts for about £42. The new section is big enough in height to cover the removed section of rust.

This car, however.. will be scraped once we have everything off it we need.

easily fixable. Scares a lot of people but its just a time consuming job to do properly, all the metal panels required to fix it are readily available

Easy if you have a welder, the tools and the know how...

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I'm scared.

Haha.. no point pretending its not there.. Well worth popping the outer sill cover off for a look if you have concerns mate. Its only held on by a few rivets underneath. Just have a rivet gun and rivets to hand to pop it on again.

 

[KitsonRis]

View attachment 1345142 View attachment 1345143 View attachment 1345144 Found this on one of our donor cars.. I should've taken a pic before the sill was removed and I started to pick about lol

That will polish out.....

 

[m&l172ph1]

Is that even fixable??

If so, at what cost??

I know welding is joining two bits of metal to create one, but surely with that level of rust, you could effectively just lift the entire outside skin of the car off the floorpan? lol

I fear mine is that bad 😧 😧

Anything is fixable!
I've repaired a hell of a lot worse.

 

[White16valver]

easily fixable. Scares a lot of people but its just a time consuming job to do properly, all the metal panels required to fix it are readily available

As mentioned, it could be fixable.. Replacement sill sections are available from the like of Euro Car Parts for about £42. The new section is big enough in height to cover the removed section of rust.

But for a Mk1...??

Anything is fixable!
I've repaired a hell of a lot worse.

That is incredible :fearscream: I bow to your skills!

That must cost easily £1k plus to do at 'Joe Public' costs, though, surely??