Ph1 and ph2 engine the same?

[willow]

Are the engines in the ph1 and ph2 Clio sport 172 the same?
Cheers xx

 

[k16v]

yea there the same,

 

[willow]

Exactly the same fitting too? I've got a 52 plate with climate control which needs a new engine and I've been offered a engine out of a ph1 sport

 

[Martin_172]

ph1 has bigger inlet valves and has a cable throttle body, id imagine you could use the fly by wire body on it but not sure if you would need the ph2 inlet manifold too, not sure if there is any other differences, but you can run them anyway i know a few doing it

 

[willow]

Oh it's only a bare engine I've been offered out of the ph1, I'm prob best getting another ph2 engine then I suppose?

 

[sideways danny]

ph1 has bigger inlet valves

no it doesn't lol!!!!!

the only real difference apart from the inlet manifold (just use your original one) is the size of the exhaust ports. The rest bears little or no significance to fitment

 

[willow]

So If I bought a bare engine will everything off my existing engine fit?

 

[sideways danny]

yes.

182 engine is a bit more different.

 

[Fred@BTM]

30% larger exhaust ports on the phs1 head = good

 

[willow]

30% larger exhaust ports on the phs1 head = good

Will my parts fit due to that though?

 

[Fred@BTM]

yup, bolts straight on (just use the correct exhaust manifold gasket)

 

[Ricardos]

30% larger exhaust ports on the phs1 head = good

Blimey that's a big difference!

 

[Fred@BTM]

maybe not 30%, but its still a big difference!

 

[sideways danny]

they're not technically 30% bigger, that would be incredibly difficult to quantify, they have 30% better flow. I was there when they testing was done years ago

 

[spanishfly]

Wow that is a fair difference. I hope the gasket I've ordered is the right one, if not i'll be using the old one.

 

[Fred@BTM]

they're not technically 30% bigger, that would be incredibly difficult to quantify, they have 30% better flow. I was there when they testing was done years ago

you were where?

 

[sideways danny]

caxton Stood behind Ben while he was doing loads of comparisons (he must hve s**t the bed that day ) this was about 2005

 

[willow]

I can have a bare ph1 engine for 175quid or a bare ph2 engine for 250quid which would be best?

 

[Fred@BTM]

phs1!

thought you meant mechachrone in France for a second there!