phs 1 172 with a phs2 fuel rail?

[Fred@BTM]

i can't remember seeing this on any of them before, turns out that's what my phs1 has! parts bin special!

anyone else?

 

[sideways danny]

seen 3 all Y-reg, the k-tec win-me car being one

 

[Fred@BTM]

mine's an x plater, very odd! the miles remaining thing doesn't work either, good thing it was cheap!

 

[sideways danny]

just realised, saw another yesterday, new JMS project car is PH1 and it's non return type rail. Took a ph1 engine (big exhaust ports) out of a ph2 this week too, H'actually french.

 

[Andrew Cooke]

does it have a different map to correct for the fuel pressure not being referenced to plenum pressure?

 

[sideways danny]

does it have a different map to correct for the fuel pressure not being referenced to plenum pressure?

oh there's 2 different versions of that too. Ph1s without a post-cat lambda run a vac feed to the FPR, ones with post-cat lambda, leave it open to atmosphere

 

[Andrew Cooke]

oh there's 2 different versions of that too. Ph1s without a post-cat lambda run a vac feed to the FPR, ones with post-cat lambda, leave it open to atmosphere

ahh, Ok, so if you have 2 lambdas you can have the FPR in the rail or tank and the map should be the same.

Now I'm worried, I'm looking at swapping my PH2 ECU etc to PH1, but was blindly looking for an ECU and loom from separate places, it looks like I need to be sure I get an ECU to match the loom So how do I tell what spec PH1 ECU I have?

 

[sideways danny]

I'm going to plead ignorance on ECU serial numbers

 

[f0xy]

whiteleys x plate 172 engine had a ph2 rail on it

 

[Fred@BTM]

renault - no 2 cars the same LOL

 

[Jay Payne]

The way I understood it was that 2001-on cars had phase 2 rails (EOBD/twin lambda cars)

Kind of makes them phase 1.5's, there was a thread up about it a while ago

 

[Andyman]

The later ph1's had owt bolted on that was laying about the bit!

So many different variations its unreal

Never new until last week there was 2 different types of ''double'' cat, meaning 3 different ones on the ph1 in total.

 

[Tom@JMS]

seen 3 all Y-reg, the k-tec win-me car being one

just realised, saw another yesterday, new JMS project car is PH1 and it's non return type rail. Took a ph1 engine (big exhaust ports) out of a ph2 this week too, H'actually french.

Incidentally it's also Y-reg....

 

[Jay Payne]

makes sense, as i said all 2001-on cars had to be EOBD compliant, thats why they have twin lambda. Guessing the fuel rail was part of the mods they did to adpt the cars