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Rack Or Column
- Thread starter Essex_Lad
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or track rod ends....worn bush etc etc....You need to jack the car up and check the wheel movement by applying pressure on the top and bottom of the wheel....Then identify the area before wasting any cash on a rack etc.
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peterh2
Yer, I have the same problem at the moment it will be the column. After thinking about it for a while im going to go for a new one, had a chat with Paul at infinicar about it and he raised a very good point. What happens if your cornering hard and all of a sudden the weld breaks? Its going to put you into a hedge or possibly worse. When it comes to safety, imho your probably best paying a little more and doing a proper job.
I think a new column from renault is ~135.
ITS THE COLUMN
ill weld it for ya mate
20VT Clio & 9-5 HOT
well if u are cornering and it breaks then ur right, but it will only go back to the normal state, which in my case was only a bit of play. suppose it depends how hard u are actually cornering, the wled on mine is proper bo.
its only temp though till i get through the next few weeks of exams then iv got soem time to play!
got loads of stuff to fit/fix!
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peterh2
Adams_16v : the problem is that you wont be expecting it to break though and a sudden play between 11 and 1 would be bloody scary when taking a corner at 80 on the limit. I know I have enough problems just getting mine to go straight at the moment with the wobble, when you put your foot down it goes all over the place.
But when cornering the play isnt there, the play occurs because it moves, then starts to turn the rack, once its moving the rack theres no play because the play has gone, so if the weld broke at 80 when cornering NOTHING would happen !!
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peterh2
I assume you would weld it in the central position (so there is about 1cm of play to either side). When it breaks all of a sudden that 1cm of play would instantly come into effect loosing you say 20 degrees on the steering wheel...
You weld it in the middle yes otherwise your steering wheel will be off centre !! What do you mean WHEN ?? have you seen the pics of my weld ? any force my PAS can put on that wont break it !!
IF and i mean IF it were to break when you were going straight then YES the play would be there and you might not know it, (although the big f**k off bang of the weld cracking will give it away) !!, then you might understeer because of the play, BUT if it breaks when cornering ( the most dangerous time) then the play wont become aparrent !! this is swear, until you know where and why the play is there you cant understand this !! But the play is only there for the first few degrees and there is no more play further around the steering wheel !!
either replace the column or weld it up, the choice is yours, in my eyes that weld was strong and wont break as the stresses arent strong enough !! the two pieces are in effect one now !!
i live in the mids mate yes !! that quote sounds quite good, make sure its a brand new column though, as a recon one will f**k up in no time, and theres nothing to stop it happening to the brand new one a few years down the line
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peterh2
Another thing you may want to think about when welding is I think they are supposed to break if you have a heavy head on impact. If it dont break there is a possibility it may send the steering wheel into your face.
They arent meant to BREAK !! they have a telescopic end on them which crumples upwards, it doesnt break and welding doesnt affect em
Your car is welded together.. are you worried that is going to break apart while you are driving along?
On one of the other threads on here its recommended that you dont pack stuff in the gap, as this could come unpacked at speed and be a bit dangerous - - - I dont remember anyone doubting the effectiveness of a good quality bit of welding though, and know of many people whove saved themselves a fortune in parts and fitting by getting it done.
