re-mapable deisel?

[mikey123]

What is the best deisel to buy that is very responsive to a remap?

I was thinking the Skoda fabia VRS, 130bhp remapped makes around 175 without mods.





(wrong section, damn!!)

 

[Craigus]

Any with a turbo, TBH

But the fabia does respond well to them, but they run standard between 145 - 150 bhp anywqay, so not as bigger gain as people think.

 

[maynard]

majority of the vag tdi engines.

the one in the fabia vrs is an ASZ (130bhp), and the one in the mk4 golf which is an ARL (150bhp) are both very tuneable and make good power.

 

[Craigus]

The Fabia's from 06 onwards have a BLT instead of the ASZ which makes more power, not much, but still more, mine standard was running 148 bhp after the map it was on 171 bhp. Which is the most that is safe to go with them wiothout upgrading the clutch (1K
+)

 

[BREMBO]

Get a Bora son!

 

[rctempire]

Dora the explorer pish.

Skoda loosen up alot.
The Citroens do too, ask Jaffa off here.
Fiestas put a bit of boot of them when done.
Seats just turn into machines when mapped.

 

[Firas]

skoda vrs is a good shout mate

 

[Gaz.]

Seats just turn into machines when mapped.

Knowsit.

 

[gaz44]

Should be getting mine done shortly. Should be good for approx 200bhp and 300 torques, so an increase of around 35bhp and 50lbs/ft of torque.

Clio killer!

 

[Bluebeard]

Should be getting mine done shortly. Should be good for approx 200bhp and 300 torques, so an increase of around 35bhp and 50lbs/ft of torque.

Clio killer..............!

...........until 3500 rpm. Then you'll have to change gear.

 

[gaz44]

...........until 3500 rpm. Then you'll have to change gear.

I know, they run out of revs super quick but that's because the power and torque arrives so early but they have 6 gears. They already out-drag 1*2's in a quarter mile, so remapping will make a considerable difference.

And they actually rev round to 5k quite easily, although power has gone by around 4k.

Just an example of what remapping a diesel can achieve. All for under £500!

 

[Aluco]

I nearly bought a modified Ibiza cupra tdi instead of my Ph1, had to cancel the viewing. The lad threw a right strop. I gave him 4 days notice I wasn't coming ffs!

 

[gaz44]

I nearly bought a modified Ibiza cupra tdi instead of my Ph1, had to cancel the viewing. The lad threw a right strop. I gave him 4 days notice I wasn't coming ffs!

At least you let him know! A lot don't. People be crazy.

Did you cancel as you'd bought the 172? Did you test any diesels?

 

[Aluco]

Cancelled as the 172 came up for 2k bargain, didn't test any but I'm interested in them specially the seats !

 

[Fletcher]

Fabia VRS for me. I quite often see a red one around my way, weapon TBH.

 

[gaz44]

Fabia VRS for me. I quite often see a red one around my way, weapon TBH.

Interior put me off in these. Good cars though.

 

[Poopensharten]

Should be getting mine done shortly. Should be good for approx 200bhp and 300 torques, so an increase of around 35bhp and 50lbs/ft of torque.

Clio killer!

You want the part number for a new clutch>?

 

[gaz44]

You want the part number for a new clutch>?

They can handle it as long as it's not been abused and hasn't done a million miles. Anything above 200 & 300 and it would be an upgrade.

 

[Seriosha]

Here is your fault in thining.

When you map a TDI you can map it so it wont run out of breath till 5k rpm.

Just check the Opel Astra (Vauxhall) GTC in Germany, its a 1.9 Diesel, Standard running 150 PS with Particle Filter. So get it remapped. The Point is not to push the Turbo Pressure but the amount of Fuel injected because those Diesels work with too much Air as Standart, youll get it to to 185 PS with big Torque between 380 and 320 NM at 2 and 4,8k Revs. Wich comes btw with a better MPG. And yes, you could get more, but those numbers are achieved with a workinh Particle Filter

BTW, The Diesel Audi which won the 24h of LeMans had Filters too.

 

[Poopensharten]

They can handle it as long as it's not been abused and hasn't done a million miles. Anything above 200 & 300 and it would be an upgrade.

Tbh id still rather a 172 than any mapped DIEsel.

Itll still go round a track quicker regardless of torque figures

 

[mikey123]

Get a Bora son!

No chance! Just opening my options up right now with the diesel Q.

 

[Djw John]

You can generally map them more aggressively if they dont have a DPF

 

[gaz44]

Tbh id still rather a 172 than any mapped DIEsel.

Itll still go round a track quicker regardless of torque figures

Fair enough. I didn't buy my car for the track, so whatever is faster there doesn't interest me.

Tracks are all about the driver and their ability. A couple of seconds printed in a magazine means nothing to someone with average ability.

Didn't the diesel Seats win lots of touring car championships?

 

[Gaz.]

Didn't the diesel Seats win lots of touring car championships?

Try races, they haven't raced long enough to win loads of championships lol. They did win WTCC though.

 

[adamclio182]

iv been told if i map my astra 1.9 cdti it will go from 150bhp to around 200 mark through the sport button mode thingy. both my mates have remapped diesels and both perform quite well. one being a 1.9 tdi golf with the 100bhp standard pdi engine now running around 13o bhp the other being a diesel mondeo st

 

[Poopensharten]

Clio killer!

Fair enough. I didn't buy my car for the track, so whatever is faster there doesn't interest me.

Tracks are all about the driver and their ability. A couple of seconds printed in a magazine means nothing to someone with average ability.

Didn't the diesel Seats win lots of touring car championships?

Not interested...?

I jest mate, Your right, Seat Diesels really have paved the way for fast diesels in that respect.

Printed figures are only as reliable as the variables involved like you said

 

[gaz44]

Not interested...?

I jest mate, Your right, Seat Diesels really have paved the way for fast diesels in that respect.

Printed figures are only as reliable as the variables involved like you said

Was not serious about the Clio killer.

I'm glad you agree!

 

[Brett]

I'd like to own a mapped derv at some point for the huge torque and high mpg. Maybe as a work car in the future or just for a short stint, I think i'd get bored.

 

[Ian_182]

A mapped tdci focus with 115bhp will consistantly give you 145-150bhp,and much lighter than a golf...

 

[R20 CWH]

fabia is a good shout. loads of decent ones for sale on briskoda.

 

[broster@JAM-Sport]

the 2ltr 140bhp tdi VAG engine gives really good results we find, currently have 200bhp and 365lbft of torque of of mine at the moment, and thats with the standard turbo, new turbo sat here should see 30bhp and 40lbft torque, just need to do a single mass conversion to it.

most vag tdi's give good results tho

 

[SC03OTT]

the 2ltr 140bhp tdi VAG engine gives really good results we find, currently have 200bhp and 365lbft of torque of of mine at the moment, and thats with the standard turbo, new turbo sat here should see 30bhp and 40lbft torque, just need to do a single mass conversion to it.

most vag tdi's give good results tho

Quick question for you. Does your turbo sound like a police siren between about 1400 and 2200 rpm?

 

[broster@JAM-Sport]

some do, some dont, mine doesnt, 80% do tho