Rear discs for a track day car?

[Philip Griffiths]

Hi. Need to renew the rear discs and pads on the 182. I can see everyone recommend genuine. Are these up to track day use only. Or is there something else people recommend.

Thanks

 

[Jamess182]

Hi. Need to renew the rear discs and pads on the 182. I can see everyone recommend genuine. Are these up to track day use only. Or is there something else people recommend.

Thanks

I've read time and time again that there's no point upgrading rear brakes as they don't do much anyway. Standard is fine.
Best off spending the money elsewhere!

 

[Matt Cup]

OE or Brembo high carbon discs are what I’ve used in the past. There isn’t much braking effort from the rears anyway.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Are these up to track day use only.

Yep. Used by many dedicated track cars and novice championships inc 750mc, TDT, TDC etc…

 

[Advikaz]

Can get the snr ones on autodoc for peanuts in comparison to the Renault boxed discs

I’ve just got a set myself. They’re always running offers. I paid like £40 odd quid a disc the other week

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928123

 

[Mr Underhill]

Can get the snr ones on autodoc for peanuts in comparison to the Renault boxed discs

I’ve just got a set myself. They’re always running offers. I paid like £40 odd quid a disc the other week

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928123

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A bargain. SNR make the bearings for Renault so probably the same.

 

[Advikaz]

A bargain. SNR make the bearings for Renault so probably the same.

Did some background research with some people in the trade I know who say it is the same unit just reboxed. Disc has never been the problem really with rears, it’s the bearings that are crap as you well know.

The bearing is the same anyway so that’s one thing

 

[Philip Griffiths]

OE or Brembo high carbon discs are what I’ve used in the past. There isn’t much braking effort from the rears anyway.

I’m running brembo high Carbon on the front. They’ve taken a hammering to be fair

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Did some background research with some people in the trade I know who say it is the same unit just reboxed. Disc has never been the problem really with rears, it’s the bearings that are crap as you well know.

The bearing is the same anyway so that’s one thing

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The bearings are the reason I’m changing them to be fair. There’s hardly any wear on the disc.

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Can get the snr ones on autodoc for peanuts in comparison to the Renault boxed discs

I’ve just got a set myself. They’re always running offers. I paid like £40 odd quid a disc the other week

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928123

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Thanks for that. I’ll use the link now.

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Thanks for the replies guys. I’ve been looking around. I was gonna go for the Godspeed as they were £140. But if people are recommending the SNR I might try them.

 

[Advikaz]

Thanks for the replies guys. I’ve been looking around. I was gonna go for the Godspeed as they were £140. But if people are recommending the SNR I might try them.

All I’ve ever read is that snr make the oem bearings and they’re the only ones that last…

They are in the Renault boxed discs, snr (obviously) and the brembo’s apparently.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Standard rears are fine even with increased braking effort.

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

I have scenic stub axle and discs with larger bearings on the rears along with 197 calipers. I also have a new laguna stub axle and hub (separate disc to bearing) laying around, its the same fitment as the scenic. I heard they used the laguna setup on the cup racers because of the bearing going before the discs.

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Thanks for you help guys. Ordered the SNR discs from AUTODOC. Had them for £46 each in the end. 👍

 

[Leo182]

Thanks for you help guys. Ordered the SNR discs from AUTODOC. Had them for £46 each in the end. 👍

A bargain. SNR make the bearings for Renault so probably the same.

Bump!

I'm after some for my 182 but it seems they are out of stock and they are £80+, how the hell are you lads getting them for £40ish???

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Bump!

I'm after some for my 182 but it seems they are out of stock and they are £80+, how the hell are you lads getting them for £40ish???

If you use AUTODOC, put them in your basket and wait. They’ll drop the price for as an offer. I think they started off at £70 ish when I went to buy them and they came down to £46.

 

[Leo182]

If you use AUTODOC, put them in your basket and wait. They’ll drop the price for as an offer. I think they started off at £70 ish when I went to buy them and they came down to £46.

Thanks mate, never knew that! Strange way of doing things!! OOS anyway so will keep an eye on them.

 

[Philip Griffiths]

Thanks mate, never knew that! Strange way of doing things!! OOS anyway so will keep an eye on them.

It can take a few days mind. So be patient

 

[Neil Clio 182]

I replaced mine with OEM ones with the bearing, DS2500 pads 12+ trackdays and they have hardly worn.

 

[Philip Griffiths]

I replaced mine with OEM ones with the bearing, DS2500 pads 12+ trackdays and they have hardly worn.

To be fair. There’s loads of life left in the discs. It’s the bearings that have failed

 

[Neil Clio 182]

To be fair. There’s loads of life left in the discs. It’s the bearings that have failed

I've done the front's to, figured they had done as much work as the rears. It got rid of the birdy chirping noise to.

 

[scruffydubber]

Can get the snr ones on autodoc for peanuts in comparison to the Renault boxed discs

I’ve just got a set myself. They’re always running offers. I paid like £40 odd quid a disc the other week

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928123

Thanks for the link. I checked last week and they were around £100 each. Checked and ordered today for £49.
4th set in 6years, the bearing failed every time.

 

[Advikaz]

Thanks for the link. I checked last week and they were around £100 each. Checked and ordered today for £49.
4th set in 6years, the bearing failed every time.

Yeah, they're a right bargain if you time it right.

Happy days!

 

[JamesBryan]

Don't forget to use the Autodoc app too, it's always cheaper than going off the website.

 

[Advikaz]

Don't forget to use the Autodoc app too, it's always cheaper than going off the website.

Have noticed that since I mentioned it, the SNR discs have been added to a few parts suppliers websites (mysteriously)

 

[JamesBryan]

Thanks for the link. I checked last week and they were around £100 each. Checked and ordered today for £49.
4th set in 6years, the bearing failed every time.

Could just be the track abuse but have you got the spacer behind the discs and torquing the hub nut to 175Nm?

 

[scruffydubber]

Could just be the track abuse but have you got the spacer behind the discs and torquing the hub nut to 175Nm?

Yeah new spacers, I always keep a spare disc kitted up with bearing and studs in my track day kit now.
I did consider the PMS upgrade, but with them being cheap (still thanks to the link) and easy to change I just keep an eye on them.

I have bought a SKF bearing to replace my recently failed one to see if that lasts any longer. I've seen another brand of car where the guy carefully removes the seals from the bearings and replaces the grease with redline and refits the seals. maybe another one to try in the future.

 

[Advikaz]

I have heard that guys racing them are replacing discs sometimes twice a weekend if they run a lot of kerbs.

Mental!

Not many know about SNR being the only half decent bearing though. And I am not sure what the guys racing them are running. Probs whatevers cheapest knowing racers.

 

[Leo182]

Thanks for the link. I checked last week and they were around £100 each. Checked and ordered today for £49.
4th set in 6years, the bearing failed every time.

How you got these? Still showing as OOS for me.

 

[scruffydubber]

How you got these? Still showing as OOS for me.

I checked at the start of the week, they were showing out of stock. And listed a more expensive alternative.
Checked again yesterday and two showing in stock, so I snapped them up.

I'm sure more will come into stock.

 

[Leo182]

I checked at the start of the week, they were showing out of stock. And listed a more expensive alternative.
Checked again yesterday and two showing in stock, so I snapped them up.

I'm sure more will come into stock.

Bummer, checked daily and nothing set up an alert aswell.

Are these the same??

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928124

 

[JamesBryan]

Bummer, checked daily and nothing set up an alert aswell.

Are these the same??

https://m.autodoc.co.uk/snr/1928124

They're the same disc physically, however the abs rings on them are 26 tooth not 44.

You could swap them for a 44 though quite easily.

Or not a problem if you have a 172 Cup.

 

[Leo182]

Back again!

These are still OOS and I need them ASAP as the car needs a mot and it was flagged up in the last one so can anyone give us any decent alternatives?

Tia.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Back again!

These are still OOS and I need them ASAP as the car needs a mot and it was flagged up in the last one so can anyone give us any decent alternatives?

Tia.

These chaps are excellent https://frogjammotorsport.co.uk/col...s/brembo-rear-brake-discs-renault-clio-mk2-rs

@FrogJam Motorsport

 

[T3gav]

I have scenic stub axle and discs with larger bearings on the rears along with 197 calipers. I also have a new laguna stub axle and hub (separate disc to bearing) laying around, its the same fitment as the scenic. I heard they used the laguna setup on the cup racers because of the bearing going before the discs.

Any more details on this conversion? Is it a straight swap?

 

[Beauvais Motorsport]

Any more details on this conversion? Is it a straight swap?

You need to grind the bottom 2 mounting holes slightly in the beam. Its been a while so I cant remember about the lines but I made my own braided ones anyway. The o/s handbrake cable needs to be longer ideally for the scenic hub, not sure about the laguna hub.

The laguna setup is the best option because of the separate disc to hub, they have different calipers to the scenic setup which use 197 calipers.

Something to consider is the clio 3 (modus I think) rear setup which is a straight fit to the beam, uses similar size discs to standard but with bigger bearing. The same discs on the pms rear conversion.

Laguna mk1

Clio modus 8200386064 and 8200386063

 

[Leo182]

OK so I've gave up on waiting for the SNR ones, can someone confirm (08.5834.25) is the correct brembo ones? Ta

 

[Mr Underhill]

OK so I've gave up on waiting for the SNR ones, can someone confirm (08.5834.25) is the correct brembo ones? Ta

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[Mr Underhill]

08.5834.27 is with ABS rings
08.5834.25 is without ABS rings but has been superseded with 08.5834.27, so those are the ones you need.

Didn't Frogjam Motorsport have any?