Should I do the following to my 182?

[riri]

I asked my mate what mod's to do to my 182.

I asked my friend who has a very well known saxo what mods I could do to make my car quicker. This was his anwser!!!

Is he right???

well the 182 brakes & suspesion are a good setup to start with, so you can get away with lobbing a load more power at them before upgrades are required, but not too much!

i assume you have an air filter on it? a good one that hides the filter away from the heat of the engine bay, not just an open filter cone? like some cheap halfrauds crap!

I know you have an exhaust on there. Its a Cat back system? youve kept the cat in the exhaust for MOT purposes, which is fine but very restrictive. taking this out is a good step, im sure you could get a decat pipe for it, or if you didnt mind spending a little more you could get a sports cat for around £200 which will free up the power and keep it legal, saving you from swapping it over every year.

After that you will want a 4 branch exhaust manifold, again freeing up more power. these go for around £250 - £350 usually. Any garage can fit one of them for you, not a huge job but need to get underneath the car etc!

get in touch with Ktec or GDI for those items. GDi or quite good and specialise in renaults.

That would maybe knock the power up to around 190bhp if your lucky.

After that you going to be wanted to change the cam shafts for some more hardcore versions, a fairly involved job that requires the timing to be removed and a new timing belt put on, so a perfect excuse to service the car too!

Cams go for around £400, fitting and setting them up is where money goes! i would say to buy the cams, have them fitted and get them mapped your looking at about £900.

BUT...and a big but....you will see some mega power gains from them. im talking 210bhp maybe 215bhp. there are loads of different specs of cams.

generally speaking, wild cams give you more power higher up the rev range! Have you ever driven a honda with vtec? i know the 182 has a fair old kick high up in te revs! fitting a good set of cams to your car will make this effect even more so but giving you more power across the whole rev range. also my old supercharged vts had 230 bhp. and that thing f**king flew!!! so having 210-215 will not be far off! Being a 2.0 you will get more torque than my 1.6 had so a better option.

Thats your best bet. Decent intake filter, get the exhaust sorted, manifold, sorts cat, and rest of the system, set of cams i nthere and you'l have a car that not a lot of motors can touch! apart from mine

If you had some money to spend, say £1500, you could give your car to GDi or KTEC for a week and they would fit and map the whole lot for you!

My car is broken at the min! Was on track last friday and my supercharger died on my way home!!! new one is £1350!!!! ouch! so currently saving up for that!

 

[brisa4984]

i suppose more or less..

The mainfold was a popular mod on the saxos but not over here dont think you need to do that.

Most here make do with a panel filter (60 quid) rather than cones etc, apart from maxogen which is expensive imo for the gains. Youll be lucky to see 190bhp, doubt it would make that much to be honest after simple mods.

GDI package work is a gud bet

or.... you can just wait for the low turbo plug and play, £2500 odd quid for 220 bhp IIRC

 

[Shotgunsjay]

£900 for cams, dreamer

i believe 1500 is a good price for cams so ive been told.............

 

[edde]

well the 182 brakes & suspesion are a good setup to start with, so you can get away with lobbing a load more power at them before upgrades are required, but not too much!

I know you have an exhaust on there. Its a Cat back system? youve kept the cat in the exhaust for MOT purposes, which is fine but very restrictive. taking this out is a good step, im sure you could get a decat pipe for it,

After that you will want a 4 branch exhaust manifold, again freeing up more power. these go for around £250 - £350 usually. Any garage can fit one of them for you, not a huge job but need to get underneath the car etc!

That would maybe knock the power up to around 190bhp if your lucky.

BUT...and a big but....you will see some mega power gains from them. im talking 210bhp maybe 215bhp. there are loads of different specs of cams.

generally speaking, wild cams give you more power higher up the rev range! Have you ever driven a honda with vtec? i know the 182 has a fair old kick high up in te revs! fitting a good set of cams to your car will make this effect even more so but giving you more power across the whole rev range. also my old supercharged vts had 230 bhp. and that thing f**king flew!!! so having 210-215 will not be far off! Being a 2.0 you will get more torque than my 1.6 had so a better option.

Thats your best bet. Decent intake filter, get the exhaust sorted, manifold, sorts cat, and rest of the system, set of cams i nthere and you'l have a car that not a lot of motors can touch! apart from mine

Firsttly sort the wheels they are a waste there to heavy and don't let the brakes get cool.

Stock brakes are good but brakes are a serious part of a quick car stock never good enough

Loosing weight is a good idea helsp with all aspects.

Suspenion mods arn't cheap but well worthwhile.

Stock 182 cat is very good almost sports cat spec. Gains arn't as big as one on a 172 who's cat a lot more restrictive.

You already have the best of the production manifold the 182 rusn a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold.

What you are looking at is about £2k for cams and bit remap and intake manifold to be rewored as there are good gains to be made there depending how good the stock one you have is (there loads of variation as such). Hp is about 200 with those bits and Ik.

Injector limit is 208hp official any more than 200 realy you'd want to change them just for safety. Not difficult just somehting to think about and at that point of tunning you end up looking at T/B's anway so stock setup bined then.

A supercharged 1.6 will have more torque than a 2.0 though.


Biggest gains for track speeds etc are suspenion spending, weight loss, brakes and new wheels.

 

[The Hoff]

The wheels really that bad Edde? I assume the Trophy/Turini rims do a better job of cooling?

 

[edde]

The wheels really that bad Edde? I assume the Trophy/Turini rims do a better job of cooling?

Yep they are IMO the cause of the 182 brake problem with sliders sticking and fluid needing chnaging so much.

Yep turini or the dynamic wheels (15's though) or the 172 wheels are a better idea much better at letting the brakes cool aftermarkets there some good stuff out difficult to get any worse realy plus the 182 arn't light wheels and lighter is better.

 

[riri]

well the 182 brakes & suspesion are a good setup to start with, so you can get away with lobbing a load more power at them before upgrades are required, but not too much!

I know you have an exhaust on there. Its a Cat back system? youve kept the cat in the exhaust for MOT purposes, which is fine but very restrictive. taking this out is a good step, im sure you could get a decat pipe for it,

After that you will want a 4 branch exhaust manifold, again freeing up more power. these go for around £250 - £350 usually. Any garage can fit one of them for you, not a huge job but need to get underneath the car etc!

That would maybe knock the power up to around 190bhp if your lucky.

BUT...and a big but....you will see some mega power gains from them. im talking 210bhp maybe 215bhp. there are loads of different specs of cams.

generally speaking, wild cams give you more power higher up the rev range! Have you ever driven a honda with vtec? i know the 182 has a fair old kick high up in te revs! fitting a good set of cams to your car will make this effect even more so but giving you more power across the whole rev range. also my old supercharged vts had 230 bhp. and that thing f**king flew!!! so having 210-215 will not be far off! Being a 2.0 you will get more torque than my 1.6 had so a better option.

Thats your best bet. Decent intake filter, get the exhaust sorted, manifold, sorts cat, and rest of the system, set of cams i nthere and you'l have a car that not a lot of motors can touch! apart from mine

Firsttly sort the wheels they are a waste there to heavy and don't let the brakes get cool.

Stock brakes are good but brakes are a serious part of a quick car stock never good enough

Loosing weight is a good idea helsp with all aspects.

Suspenion mods arn't cheap but well worthwhile.

Stock 182 cat is very good almost sports cat spec. Gains arn't as big as one on a 172 who's cat a lot more restrictive.

You already have the best of the production manifold the 182 rusn a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold.

What you are looking at is about £2k for cams and bit remap and intake manifold to be rewored as there are good gains to be made there depending how good the stock one you have is (there loads of variation as such). Hp is about 200 with those bits and Ik.

Injector limit is 208hp official any more than 200 realy you'd want to change them just for safety. Not difficult just somehting to think about and at that point of tunning you end up looking at T/B's anway so stock setup bined then.

A supercharged 1.6 will have more torque than a 2.0 though.


Biggest gains for track speeds etc are suspenion spending, weight loss, brakes and new wheels.

Cheers Buddy.

 

[MillerLight]

Slighltly linked thred question

1. anybody have an idear what the weight save would be switching 172FF wheels for 172 cup / Speedline Turini's?

2. same as above with OZ Ultraleggera

Both 16 inch

thanks Steve

 

[D1CKY]

well the 182 brakes & suspesion are a good setup to start with, so you can get away with lobbing a load more power at them before upgrades are required, but not too much!

I know you have an exhaust on there. Its a Cat back system? youve kept the cat in the exhaust for MOT purposes, which is fine but very restrictive. taking this out is a good step, im sure you could get a decat pipe for it,

After that you will want a 4 branch exhaust manifold, again freeing up more power. these go for around £250 - £350 usually. Any garage can fit one of them for you, not a huge job but need to get underneath the car etc!

That would maybe knock the power up to around 190bhp if your lucky.

BUT...and a big but....you will see some mega power gains from them. im talking 210bhp maybe 215bhp. there are loads of different specs of cams.

generally speaking, wild cams give you more power higher up the rev range! Have you ever driven a honda with vtec? i know the 182 has a fair old kick high up in te revs! fitting a good set of cams to your car will make this effect even more so but giving you more power across the whole rev range. also my old supercharged vts had 230 bhp. and that thing f**king flew!!! so having 210-215 will not be far off! Being a 2.0 you will get more torque than my 1.6 had so a better option.

Thats your best bet. Decent intake filter, get the exhaust sorted, manifold, sorts cat, and rest of the system, set of cams i nthere and you'l have a car that not a lot of motors can touch! apart from mine

Firsttly sort the wheels they are a waste there to heavy and don't let the brakes get cool.

Stock brakes are good but brakes are a serious part of a quick car stock never good enough

Loosing weight is a good idea helsp with all aspects.

Suspenion mods arn't cheap but well worthwhile.

Stock 182 cat is very good almost sports cat spec. Gains arn't as big as one on a 172 who's cat a lot more restrictive.

You already have the best of the production manifold the 182 rusn a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold.

What you are looking at is about £2k for cams and bit remap and intake manifold to be rewored as there are good gains to be made there depending how good the stock one you have is (there loads of variation as such). Hp is about 200 with those bits and Ik.

Injector limit is 208hp official any more than 200 realy you'd want to change them just for safety. Not difficult just somehting to think about and at that point of tunning you end up looking at T/B's anway so stock setup bined then.

A supercharged 1.6 will have more torque than a 2.0 though.


Biggest gains for track speeds etc are suspenion spending, weight loss, brakes and new wheels.

What kind of manifold does a 172ff have if the 182 has a 4-2-1 ?

And would a 182 cat fit a 172ff ?

Or would it be better off with a decat ?

 

[D1CKY]

Slighltly linked thred question

1. anybody have an idear what the weight save would be switching 172FF wheels for 172 cup / Speedline Turini's?

2. same as above with OZ Ultraleggera

Both 16 inch

thanks Steve

I did wander this ? :dapprove:

But would it really be noticeable ?

 

[MillerLight]

Slighltly linked thred question

1. anybody have an idear what the weight save would be switching 172FF wheels for 172 cup / Speedline Turini's?

2. same as above with OZ Ultraleggera

Both 16 inch

thanks Steve

I did wander this ? :dapprove:

But would it really be noticeable ?

Yeah am just curious. I imagine that steering may feel slightly lighter but thats it. Was just interested in the weight of wheels etc

 

[edde]

What kind of manifold does a 172ff have if the 182 has a 4-2-1 ?

And would a 182 cat fit a 172ff ?

Or would it be better off with a decat ?

172 has a 4 into 1 manifold.

Nope cat fitment not that simple from memory

To get a 182 manifold onto a 172 you use a 182 cat usualy and cut it to fit the 172 exhast pipe

But would it really be noticeable ?

yes it is noticable the lighter wheels give a huge reduction in unsprung mass so the suspension reponds to change better.

 

[D1CKY]

172 has a 4 into 1 manifold.

Nope cat fitment not that simple from memory

To get a 182 manifold onto a 172 you use a 182 cat usualy and cut it to fit the 172 exhast pipe.

So what the gains over having a 4-2-1 manifold over 4-1 ? ?

And does it look any different ?