SHOULD I ROLLING ROAD MY CAR BEFORE GETTING TIMING BELT CHANGED ?

[D1CKY]

This is a bit random i know.

And i may sound paranoid after reading the 162bhp post

My cars away to get a timing belt and aux belt done tomorrow, i was thinking would i be better to cancel it by a few days and Rolling Road it before and after to see if its set up the same ?

Meaning they've not missed a tooth etc putting new one on and put me down on power


Its going to a renault dealer dunno if that makes any difference :S - not evans halshaw though, i've found there crap for customer service etc etc.

Its was £500 odd all in which i thought,that was not a bad price.

Or do you's guys think they'd get timing spot on as they probably do them kinda jobs all the time.


What you guys think ?

 

[mardell100]

wasted expense personally, a tooth out would make a noticeable difference to the running of the car.... if using renault they will use the correct locking tool which some local mechanics fail to use.

 

[D1CKY]

wasted expense personally, make a a tooth out would noticeable difference to the running of the car.... if using renault they will use the correct locking tool which some local mechanics fail to use.

How noticable ?

AS ITS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE

Aggh Bloody Caps Lock

 

[Rich]

The last thing I would be worried about if my belts where due would be getting it r/roaded.

 

[AlexS]

The last thing I would be worried about if my belts where due would be getting it r/roaded.

+1

 

[D1CKY]

The last thing I would be worried about if my belts where due would be getting it r/roaded.[/quote]

I can see you point there yeah.

Car popping belts on dyno

But i just thought what if it slower when i get it back

Or maybe paranoias kicking in.


Lol

 

[john1.2pearl]

wasted expense personally, make a a tooth out would noticeable difference to the running of the car.... if using renault they will use the correct locking tool which some local mechanics fail to use.

How noticable ?

AS ITS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE

Aggh Blody Caps Lock

chances are it wont start, if it did start it would misfire like hell and most likely give the car the small chance it needs to have some valve/piston contact

 

[mattjk]

Lol I think your being paranoid!! Get the job done proper then no problems

 

[Fred@BTM]

as long as the person doing the cambelt has the special renault tools and knows what they're doing, then you'll be fine

 

[keneth]

Im a mechanic at peogeot and fitting timing isn't hard as long as its refitted with the crank and the cam(s) in the same place it will be fine the locking tools are used just to make sure nothing moves out of place i wouldn't worry any way the place you take it to should guarentee their work

 

[Fred@BTM]

the F4R's are incredibly sensetive when it comes to timing, 1mm here or there can = 30bhp lost

 

[D1CKY]

the F4R's are incredibly sensetive when it comes to timing, 1mm here or there can = 30bhp lost

Could this be why Eckas car was under power @the scottish rolling road day ?

 

[D1CKY]

as long as the person doing the cambelt has the special renault tools and knows what they're doing, then you'll be fine

Ok cheers

 

[keneth]

1mm would't make a difference at all

 

[D1CKY]

Im a mechanic at peogeot and fitting timing isn't hard as long as its refitted with the crank and the cam(s) in the same place it will be fine the locking tools are used just to make sure nothing moves out of place i wouldn't worry any way the place you take it to should guarentee their work

Very true.

Cheers lads

 

[Fred@BTM]

1mm would't make a difference at all

WRONGER than wrong chap i'm afraid, you ever done an F4R?

 

[D1CKY]

I guess i'll have to go with Fred he works on F4r's all the time


Theres so many mixed opinions though

 

[Beef-Mc]

Not worth it.

The boy at the RR day yesterday said that a belt out of alignment would be noticeable straight away. Not much point spending £80 just to check.

 

[D1CKY]

Not worth it.

The boy at the RR day yesterday said that a belt out of alignment would be noticeable straight away. Not much point spending £80 just to check.

Ok cheers.

How noticeable ?

Total lack of power ?

Or missfiring ?

As theres been so many opinions i dont know whats right :S

 

[davebem]

DOnt worry about it mate, if renault are doing it they will use the correct tools and they will have access to the manual with the correct procedure. Just make sure they change the belt, tensioners, camshaft seals, aux belt and tensioner.

 

[D1CKY]

DOnt worry about it mate, if renault are doing it they will use the correct tools and they will have access to the manual with the correct procedure. Just make sure they change the belt, tensioners, camshaft seals, aux belt and tensioner.

Does the camshaft seals come with timing belt kit ?

 

[keneth]

1mm would't make a difference at all

WRONGER than wrong chap i'm afraid, you ever done an F4R?

i wouldn't argue over 1mm you have your opinion i have mine
you wont get camshaft seals with the kit mate sorry

 

[Fred@BTM]

i will, i happen to know the guy who looks after ALL of the engines for ALL of the uk renault sport racing cars (formula renault single seaters, clio cup, etc etc)

1mm will make a difference

so ner! :rasp:

 

[D1CKY]

Thats me got car back this afternoon , it went in yesterday morning but they forgot to order an accessories belt kit

The cars running sweet no problems.

So thats me £538.44's lighter

Heres the prices from my Renault Invoice/Receipt.

The accessories kit was £107.15 Part number - 7701476674

The cambelt belt kit was £136.74 Part number - 7701477519

What are these plugs for below ? :S


"Plug La" was £3.08 Part Number - 7700274026

"Core plug La" was £6.64 Part Number - 7700106271



The rest of the invoice was in labour and Vat.

My radio had reset itself though :S , would they have had the battery disconnected to do the work ?

And when i started it sounded like a computer (making noises of a computer working inside the car)when i turned key.


The guy said it wasn't to bad a job just a pain in arse with something to do with the Locking tools on the bottom crankshaft pulley or something

 

[Fred@BTM]

cam plugs i believe are the 2 part numbers

 

[D1CKY]

Cheers Fred,

Any ideas how battery would have been out ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah standard practise i would say to disconnect the battery

 

[D1CKY]

yeah standard practise i would say to disconnect the battery

Ok cheers