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Just brought 4 of these for my 197, couldnt be bothered with taking the dash off, have stuck them in the front and back speaker wells! Sound great with nice amount of bass! could do with a small sub but not sure if I want to wire up an amp!
Just brought 4 of these for my 197, couldnt be bothered with taking the dash off, have stuck them in the front and back speaker wells! Sound great with nice amount of bass! could do with a small sub but not sure if I want to wire up an amp!
You need 13cm speakers for front and back.
Do you have aftermarket head unit. I run stock speakers of my alpine, i have got MDF baffels onto the doors and tbh for stock speakers with only alpine HU and having them fitted to the doors on baffels the sound is great.
If you want to get aftermaket speakers i'd suggest components, so replace the tweeters too and make some MDF baffels to fit teh mids into, will make a big differance.
Do you have aftermarket head unit. I run stock speakers of my alpine, i have got MDF baffels onto the doors and tbh for stock speakers with only alpine HU and having them fitted to the doors on baffels the sound is great.
If you want to get aftermaket speakers i'd suggest components, so replace the tweeters too and make some MDF baffels to fit teh mids into, will make a big differance.
ive got these in the front and they are really good and no that dear
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_508565_langId_-1_categoryId_165707
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_508565_langId_-1_categoryId_165707
Skinny J - Can you take a lil pic of your MDF baffels, think I may need these to improve my sound quality!
Thanks
Ph1 172 + Combo van
Heres what mine were like Jakey:
I didnt cut away the door card as i wanted to return the car to standard. 8 long self tapping screws straight through into the metal of the door card. Some draught excluder too around the rim where the speaker sits on the baffle, and another 4 scews holding the speaker in. 15mm MDF iirc
Definately worth doing as the screws holding in the existing speakers were just little bits of plastic. If you are amping them then you are wasting your time if you dont mount your speakers properly as i had mine in for a day or so without the baffles and they sounded crap. too much movement and hissing where air was getting behind them.
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I didnt cut away the door card as i wanted to return the car to standard. 8 long self tapping screws straight through into the metal of the door card. Some draught excluder too around the rim where the speaker sits on the baffle, and another 4 scews holding the speaker in. 15mm MDF iirc
Definately worth doing as the screws holding in the existing speakers were just little bits of plastic. If you are amping them then you are wasting your time if you dont mount your speakers properly as i had mine in for a day or so without the baffles and they sounded crap. too much movement and hissing where air was getting behind them.
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Kool looks good bet it sounds crisp too! Sorry to sound like a complete amatuer but im guessing you just cut the mdf to fit the current speaker wells and screw tight into place? Does the speaker cover still fit over the top! Very tempted to give this a go just dont want to end up messing it up and having a million screw holes in the speakers well!
ur megane r26
Heres what mine were like Jakey:
I didnt cut away the door card as i wanted to return the car to standard. 8 long self tapping screws straight through into the metal of the door card. Some draught excluder too around the rim where the speaker sits on the baffle, and another 4 scews holding the speaker in. 15mm MDF iirc
Definately worth doing as the screws holding in the existing speakers were just little bits of plastic. If you are amping them then you are wasting your time if you dont mount your speakers properly as i had mine in for a day or so without the baffles and they sounded crap. too much movement and hissing where air was getting behind them.
:approve:
mate that looks awesome, would there be any chance for you to do a quide on how you did this? as like me im sure there are a few people on here who would like to do this and also need some help in doing it?
cheers
Ph1 172 + Combo van
Sorry to sound like a complete amatuer but im guessing you just cut the mdf to fit the current speaker wells and screw tight into place? Does the speaker cover still fit over the top! Very tempted to give this a go just dont want to end up messing it up and having a million screw holes in the speakers well!
Yep the speaker cover still fits over with plenty of clearance.
Im not working tomorrow so i will do you both a little write up on how i did it. i have pictures on my computer too that i remeber taking whilst doing it.
Thanks
ur megane r26
good lad thanks very much good work btw
Alex - Once the "grill" is back on its not noticable and i just guessed some prat wont take it off to look really, not much they can do anyway. I did find it made a difference though, as i had it on the door card first but it still allowed for movement, so cut the plastic away and stuck it on the door.
Ph1 172 + Combo van
Making Speaker Baffles.
In order to get a good crisp sound and tight midbass, your speaker will need to be securely mounted.
Renault speakers are held in by four torx screws which screw into a plastic rawl plug type thing which is pretty rubbish.
The renault fixings can cope with the small paper speakers that they supply, but when you are upgrading your equipment and using external amplifiers to power them, you will need to upgrade the mounting too.
Here is a picture of my speakers mounted in the normal place. It was only temporary and sounded awful with about 90wrms going through them.
Fist of all you will need to make a few templates so you can cut your speaker baffle to size.
Some speakers will have paper templates supplied with them, so cut these out and lay them on some cardboard then cut around them.
Internal diameter
Mark out the internal diameter on your piece of wood allowing enough room around them to cut the external diameter.
Popular choices of wood are MDF or Plywood. I chose 15mm MDF
I cut the MDF using a large drill bit in the centre, then used a jig saw to cut around the pencil line.
Remember to use a dustmask and gogles when cutting wood
The external diameter will need to be bigger than the external diameter of the speaker so the screws are not too close to the edge.
But it must fit inside the speaker well on the door card.
Both cut out:
Next step is to mount them in the doors. On my car at the bottom of where the speakers sit was a little plastic lip. In order for the baffle to sit flush you will need to get rid of this.
A sharp stanley or a pair of pliers will break it off.
Next, i put my baffle in the speaker well and drilled 8 holes through the baffle and into the metal door card.
The wood needs to have a hole which is the width of your screws.
The metal needs to have a smaller hole in it in order four your screw to hold the baffle in tightly.
Use a coutersink drill bit or a slightly larger wood drill bit to countersink the heads of the screws.
Then i put some draught excluder around the inside edge of the baffle. As you can see in the above picture.
This helps to give the speaker a tight seal in order to prevent any hissing.
Finally you will need to mount your speaker.
Place it in position and mark where you need to screw.
Use a small drill bit 1mm or 2mm in order for the screws to secure properly.
Put washers between the screw and the speaker to keep it secure.
Plug in your wires and screw the speaker into its place.
Place your grill back on and you are finished.
You will have several holes in your speaker well if you chose to remove this at a later date to return your car to standard but when i done it my old speakers went back in fine and once the grill is on you will not notice.
I dont take any resposibilty if you do this wrong.
Good luck
Alex
Put in the guides section too.
In order to get a good crisp sound and tight midbass, your speaker will need to be securely mounted.
Renault speakers are held in by four torx screws which screw into a plastic rawl plug type thing which is pretty rubbish.
The renault fixings can cope with the small paper speakers that they supply, but when you are upgrading your equipment and using external amplifiers to power them, you will need to upgrade the mounting too.
Here is a picture of my speakers mounted in the normal place. It was only temporary and sounded awful with about 90wrms going through them.
Fist of all you will need to make a few templates so you can cut your speaker baffle to size.
Some speakers will have paper templates supplied with them, so cut these out and lay them on some cardboard then cut around them.
Internal diameter
Mark out the internal diameter on your piece of wood allowing enough room around them to cut the external diameter.
Popular choices of wood are MDF or Plywood. I chose 15mm MDF
I cut the MDF using a large drill bit in the centre, then used a jig saw to cut around the pencil line.
Remember to use a dustmask and gogles when cutting wood
The external diameter will need to be bigger than the external diameter of the speaker so the screws are not too close to the edge.
But it must fit inside the speaker well on the door card.
Both cut out:
Next step is to mount them in the doors. On my car at the bottom of where the speakers sit was a little plastic lip. In order for the baffle to sit flush you will need to get rid of this.
A sharp stanley or a pair of pliers will break it off.
Next, i put my baffle in the speaker well and drilled 8 holes through the baffle and into the metal door card.
The wood needs to have a hole which is the width of your screws.
The metal needs to have a smaller hole in it in order four your screw to hold the baffle in tightly.
Use a coutersink drill bit or a slightly larger wood drill bit to countersink the heads of the screws.
Then i put some draught excluder around the inside edge of the baffle. As you can see in the above picture.
This helps to give the speaker a tight seal in order to prevent any hissing.
Finally you will need to mount your speaker.
Place it in position and mark where you need to screw.
Use a small drill bit 1mm or 2mm in order for the screws to secure properly.
Put washers between the screw and the speaker to keep it secure.
Plug in your wires and screw the speaker into its place.
Place your grill back on and you are finished.
You will have several holes in your speaker well if you chose to remove this at a later date to return your car to standard but when i done it my old speakers went back in fine and once the grill is on you will not notice.
I dont take any resposibilty if you do this wrong.
Good luck
Alex
Put in the guides section too.
ur megane r26
Cheers mate you are a leg-end will defo be doing this in the summer, wayyy too cold to do it atm lol
Ph1 172 + Combo van
Thanks, yeh its great, i have already run all of the cables to put another install in it
Just need to get a new headunit and i can start putting stuff in.
Ph1 172 + Combo van
There isnt much space back there. I assume you mean the white plug on the cables? that is just so renault can plug them in real quick rather than making up connections. You will need to cut this off and crimp cimps on to the cables to be able to run an aftermarket speaker.
In my ph1 clio the speaker in the rear is just screwed to the rear quarter trim and there is just a large void behind it so there is no rear way to make a good secure mounting for a speaker.
On mine i just left the standard renault speakers in there but had the headunit fader set so the music was 8 in the front and only 2 in the back.
In my ph1 clio the speaker in the rear is just screwed to the rear quarter trim and there is just a large void behind it so there is no rear way to make a good secure mounting for a speaker.
On mine i just left the standard renault speakers in there but had the headunit fader set so the music was 8 in the front and only 2 in the back.
clio 182
dont get 6x9s get a decent set of mid range and front speakers, iv got dsl front and rear and just standard tweeter, tune it all in properly and they will wipe 6x9s, i thought they where crap when i done them myself but then when i had my subs fitted the audio shop tuned it all in and theyr awsome now, i will be up grading in the future though but thats just because im fussy
Hey Swell
i have the same set up in my 197. Coaxial's in the door and rear and standard tweeters? take it you have yr sub amped up? Did you just amp the sub or the rear door speakers too? what sort of tuning did the audio guys do exactly???
