Spongy brake pedal after front pad change

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

Leo182 said:
James where from? I've messaged a couple of people on here but not heard back, needs sorting ASAP

Renault Clio II Sport 172/182 - Rear Axle Lines

KIT INCLUDES2 Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines Which Replace The Hard Lines On Top Of The Rear AxleStainless Steel Banjo Bolts*Copper Crush Washers**Provided where required with fittings used in the kit Braided brake lines are essential for all fast road, performance, track, race and rally...

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Leo182 · Dec 3, 2020

JamesBryan said:
Renault Clio II Sport 172/182 - Rear Axle Lines

KIT INCLUDES2 Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines Which Replace The Hard Lines On Top Of The Rear AxleStainless Steel Banjo Bolts*Copper Crush Washers**Provided where required with fittings used in the kit Braided brake lines are essential for all fast road, performance, track, race and rally...

www.prolinebraidedlines.com

Diamond mate, ordered.

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

Leo182 said:
Diamond mate, ordered.

I have the same ones.

Leo182 · Dec 3, 2020

OK now they are ordered is it worth getting a flared 11mm spanner or will a bog standard 11mm do the job?

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

Leo182 said:
OK now they are ordered is it worth getting a flared 11mm spanner or will a bog standard 11mm do the job?

I got away with a standard spanner.

DomP182 · Dec 3, 2020

Leo182 said:
James where from? I've messaged a couple of people on here but not heard back, needs sorting ASAP

Paul @BRT

Leo182 · Dec 3, 2020

DomP182 said:
Paul @BRT

Paul was one! No doubt he'll probably get back to us but i couldn't hang around unfortunately as i need the car back running asap.

Krarl · Dec 3, 2020

Paul would have literally out to you next day

Message him on Facebook instead. I'd rather slice my c**k than use Proline Chinesium tat

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

Pudding of Yorkshire said:
Paul would have literally out to you next day

Message him on Facebook instead. I'd rather slice my c**k than use Proline Chinesium tat

They're all the same HEL stuff 😂

Krarl · Dec 3, 2020

JamesBryan said:
They're all the same HEL stuff 😂

Wouldn't trust Proline as far as I could chuck em, plus Mitch was the biggest cuntflap in the business. Guy needed his head taking off😂

-Jamie- · Dec 3, 2020

Pudding of Yorkshire said:
Wouldn't trust Proline as far as I could chuck em, plus Mitch was the biggest cuntflap in the business. Guy needed his head taking off[emoji23]

Mitch has zero to do with Proline anymore and the guy that runs is now is a decent lad

Krarl · Dec 3, 2020

-Jamie- said:
Mitch has zero to do with Proline anymore and the guy that runs is now is a decent lad

Aint it his brother that runs it now?

Usr117063 · Dec 3, 2020

May be a decent lad, but why would you take on a company with an awful rep and not just start your own?

-Jamie- · Dec 3, 2020

Nah it's Josh Jackson that owns it now, Has been in British GT etc

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

Pudding of Yorkshire said:
Aint it his brother that runs it now?

Josh Jackson is the lad, Mitch's last name was Plowman wasn't it?

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 3, 2020

ZachB said:
May be a decent lad, but why would you take on a company with an awful rep and not just start your own?

Technically it used to be Proline Motorsport and now it's Proline Braided Lines.

New customers looking at the business wouldn't know it's past history.

Usr117063 · Dec 3, 2020

JamesBryan said:
Technically it used to be Proline Motorsport and now it's Proline Braided Lines.

New customers looking at the business wouldn't know it's past history.

Ah makes sense then. All the best to him

Leo182 · Dec 4, 2020

I did have second thoughts ordering when I did a search on here! It's been posted so good start I suppose!!

Martin_172 · Dec 5, 2020

Proline all round on my van, their service has been spot on for me

Leo182 · Dec 5, 2020

Martin_172 said:
Proline all round on my van, their service has been spot on for me

Arrived today so very happy with the service too, looks like this Josh lad is a good fella

All i need are fitting instructions now as they weren't in the box, mark them down on that 😆

Flob · Dec 5, 2020

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clio-172...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

For anyone who stumbles by here in the future - just buy these. They replace the rear beam solid lines AND the stupid short flexi lines from beam to body. So straight from each caliper to body.

Length perfect, delivery next day (from memory). Made by a member on here @BRT Motorsport I believe. Job done.

As a 'by the way' type of thing I would put money on the short flexi which goes from beam to body being on its last legs, they get some good abuse over time and are constantly coated in salty mud.

Leo182 · Dec 6, 2020

Update.

All fitted and was very easy tbh, however the pedal travel is still the same

Now I've bled 3 wheels however i couldn't do the OSF due to an issue with the locking wheel nut which I've just managed to undo.

Question is, could this one side that I've not bled be the cause for the pedal travel still? if not what other issues can be still causing it?

Flob · Dec 6, 2020

Yes, that one caliper could be the cause. Bleed it and see how it feels before people send you off on a wild goose chase.

Leo182 · Dec 6, 2020

Touring_Rob said:
Yes, that one caliper could be the cause. Bleed it and see how it feels before people send you off on a wild goose chase.

Hoping so mate, will post back tomorrow to see if the chase is on.

Leo182 · Dec 7, 2020

Results are in... and it's a big fat fail

Bled it and surprisingly no air bubble out came out, gutted.

I shall rebleed them all again starting at the rear, i tried the Renault recommended order and it's hasn't done the job.

Pedal feels great when the engines off lol!

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 7, 2020

What are you using to bleed?

Manual method or a pressure bleeder?

Leo182 · Dec 7, 2020

JamesBryan said:
What are you using to bleed?

Manual method or a pressure bleeder?

Eezibleed, will try again with it along with a few pumps of the pedal for good measure

I've seen it mentioned some people have done it with the engine running and that's sorted it after forever struggling.

Will give them a go before the local garage visit with tail between the legs.

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 7, 2020

Leo182 said:
Eezibleed, will try again with it along with a few pumps of the pedal for good measure

I've seen it mentioned some people have done it with the engine running and that's sorted it after forever struggling.

Will give them a go before the local garage visit with tail between the legs.

Yeah it's worth pumping the pedal at the same time, that's what I do with my pressure bleeder.

Just don't press the pedal all the way down, it can flip the seals in the master cylinder.

Failing that you may have a bit of air in the abs unit, which you'll need Clip or RSTuner for.

Flob · Dec 8, 2020

Also check your new lines carefully to make sure they are not leaking. The stainless fittings are quite hard and don't always seal first time.

If they are weeping a bit, slacken them off, do them up hand tight and rotate the fitting forwards and backwards a couple of times (kind of like badly lapping a valve in) and wang them back up. A small burr etc will make them feel tight while they just sit there spoiling your week.

Usr117063 · Dec 8, 2020

I treat them as I do hardlines. Tighten, back off slightly, tighten again and a bit more.

Leo182 · Dec 9, 2020

Pedal is firm now so happy But engine management light is on now wheres it wasn't before, brake fluid is above the max slightly could that cause it?

One issue after another!

Brigsy · Dec 9, 2020

Eml will be a coincidence but not related. Scan it with clip and see what codes are stored.

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 9, 2020

Yeah that's not related.

Fluid fault would normally be the handbrake and stop light flickering.

Leo182 · Dec 9, 2020

Brigsy said:
Eml will be a coincidence but not related. Scan it with clip and see what codes are stored.

Here we go, cleared it and it's gone off however not sure if it will stay off.

JamesBryan said:
Yeah that's not related.

Fluid fault would normally be the handbrake and stop light flickering.

Didn't think so, I did spill some brake fluid from the Reservoir and ran the engine before I noticed, maybe fried something??

Andy P · Dec 9, 2020

I have had P0130 several times. lambda sensor if I am right. reset with my cheap code reader and a good blast and it normally doesn't come back for a while. I normally get it if I am not using the car much and just moving it in and out of the garage.

Krarl · Dec 9, 2020

Pre-cat lambda, take it for a blast and get it hot then reset the code. My EML with a decat goes off after I rag on my 172's tits for a bit 😂

Brand new sensors too, awkward shitebag

Leo182 · Dec 9, 2020

Cheers lads, will see how I go tomorrow with it, I'll be sure to give it a thrashing

Is the sensor or wiring anywhere near the brake fluid bottle? I only ask because when I spilt some it went down near the manifold and it was smoking a bit down there!

I did obviously turn the engine off when I realised and put a little water down there to wipe off the brake fluid.

Note to self, make sure the lid is totally secure when bleeding brakes!!

Mr Trailer Man · Dec 9, 2020

Leo182 said:
Cheers lads, will see how I go tomorrow with it, I'll be sure to give it a thrashing

Is the sensor or wiring anywhere near the brake fluid bottle? I only ask because when I spilt some it went down near the manifold and it was smoking a bit down there!

I did obviously turn the engine off when I realised and put a little water down there to wipe off the brake fluid.

Note to self, make sure the lid is totally secure when bleeding brakes!!

Nah the sensor is further underneath and the wiring is over to the right at the back of the subframe.

Spongy brake pedal after front pad change

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