Stud Conversion

[Grandpa Joe]

I'll be running 10mm spacers on the front and no spacers on the rear.

I want to change to studs for ease of fitting and swapping wheels.

What length will I need for the front and rear. Also what thread and pitch are they?

Thanks chaps

 

[Fraser.J.]

I have the Puremotorsport kit, there good for 13mm spacers max.

I won't look back, amazing bit of kit, changing wheels is so much easier, and with how often they're on and off makes it worth while.

 

[sam JFM]

make sure you get a decent kit - stay away from grayston

 

[Martin.]

I've got the Pure Motorsport kit and I'm very happy with it. I felt confident buying them even though they were priced quite high because I knew they would be top notch and they are.

 

[Grandpa Joe]

make sure you get a decent kit - stay away from grayston

Not had an issue with them before. Why do you say that?

 

[Grandpa Joe]

I've got the Pure Motorsport kit and I'm very happy with it. I felt confident buying them even though they were priced quite high because I knew they would be top notch and they are.

It is a good kit. The studs look like the AIT ones which are £5-6 each, so its very well priced in that respect.

 

[Midnight]

Are these stud kits safe for 'track' use?

 

[Martin.]

That's all my car gets used for. The other guys who race race use them too.

 

[Midnight]

Do you 'loctite' them in also with a soft type of gel or simple plug and play so to speak?

 

[Martin.]

I used the Loctite which was provided with the kit. Still solid as anything.

 

[MG cup]

Shameless plug.

i'll even throw in a new bottle of loctite stud lock too

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?719533-16-quot-pro-race-1-2s-PMS-stud-kit

 

[Martin.]

Shameless plug.

i'll even throw in a new bottle of loctite stud lock too

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?719533-16-quot-pro-race-1-2s-PMS-stud-kit

It's what this forum is for after all!

 

[-D4N-]

Would the pure motor sport kit not be ok for 16mm spacers?

 

[Martin.]

If they are bolt on spacers you could go as big as you like, then just screw the studs into the spacer. Rather than screwing the stud into the hub and sliding the spacer over.

 

[Fraser.J.]

Would the pure motor sport kit not be ok for 16mm spacers?

They say 13mm.

 

[Grandpa Joe]

Well I've found the same studs elsewhere for £52 posted. I've already got a set of nuts.

Everyone is out to make a profit though so with a bit of searching I bet I can find them cheaper.

 

[Chip-mk1]

The problem is the amount if exposed thread which can stretch. For larger spacers go bolt to hub.

 

[Cup_Phil]

^^ I thought that too - but one of my mates is actually a "bolt specialist" and apparently the longer length bolt is better even with a 10 or 15mm unused section going through the spacer. Apparently the stretch is a good thing.
Generally speaking the longer the stretch the less likely they are too rattle loose again.

It goes against logic but it's true

With just 10mm spacers the pure motorsport kit will be spot on

 

[MG cup]

Well I've found the same studs elsewhere for £52 posted. I've already got a set of nuts.

Everyone is out to make a profit though so with a bit of searching I bet I can find them cheaper.

Not believing that I'm afraid mate, maybe generic studs at that price but not the same bullet tipped studs that PMS and turner motorsport sell.

 

[Chip-mk1]

^^ I thought that too - but one of my mates is actually a "bolt specialist" and apparently the longer length bolt is better even with a 10 or 15mm unused section going through the spacer. Apparently the stretch is a good thing.
Generally speaking the longer the stretch the less likely they are too rattle loose again.

It goes against logic but it's true

With just 10mm spacers the pure motorsport kit will be spot on

Sorry but from first hand experience I dont beleive that at all on this specific application.

I understand that concept in terms of how the stud loads up the items its clamping together, but contrary to that my experience of wheel studs specifically is that if you have a longer exposed thread then the nuts are more likely to work loose.
I would assume its because of the amount of heat involved for this specific application combined how with relatively loosely (110nm ius naff all for the size and grade of bolt id have thought) they are torqued up in the first place, so I think that when they expand with the heat, it means there is no longer any stretch left, and hence they undo.

 

[sam JFM]

Not had an issue with them before. Why do you say that?

I have used them in the past and more than once iv had the nuts strip torqueing to the correct torque

 

[matt91]

i run the ktec kit, can't fault them never had any problems at all with them http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=4784&appid=2

 

[Grandpa Joe]

Not believing that I'm afraid mate, maybe generic studs at that price but not the same bullet tipped studs that PMS and turner motorsport sell.

Sorry to disappoint you but they're the same 10.9 grade, bullet tipped, zinc coated with allen key recess.

 

[MG cup]

Sorry to disappoint you but they're the same 10.9 grade, bullet tipped, zinc coated with allen key recess.

Fair enough I done a bit of seraching before when I was looking last time and came up with nothing at that price, not these style anyway. I'm guessing you know the sellers at that price, £3 per stud.

 

[Grandpa Joe]

No, just a bit of searching! I reckon they could be found even cheaper, just need to find out who manufactures them.

 

[-D4N-]

Well I've found the same studs elsewhere for £52 posted. I've already got a set of nuts.

Everyone is out to make a profit though so with a bit of searching I bet I can find them cheaper.

A link perhaps, do they offer different length studs?

 

[Grandpa Joe]

60 and 80mm.

They're on ebay

 

[MG cup]

They are definately not to the same machine quality as PMS or Turner but they look okay for 50 note, another £32 or £24 for nuts depending what type you wanted.

 

[Sullii94]

I have the stud conversion for my twingo
The website says upto 15mm spacers, how come you guys only recommend 12mm?