MarkCup
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It worked for my 200. Gained 10 bhp from when I got it from a year of abuse and a switch to decent fuel.
The ST did OK yesterday on it as well
The ST did OK yesterday on it as well
yeah missed yours too mate, I had to get to a breakers in Rochester before they closed at 13.00 to pick up an engine for the misses car. So luckily got to run my car early and got off at 11.30ish. The chap who run it said he thinks timing
IIRC it's been live mapped by RS Tuning so should have a decent map on, I'm going to have to look back through the history now.
good to see you too mate, your face was a picture when you made 190+, like a kid at Christmas, lol.
The mini GP made 195.0
@Bobby. Which cams are they bud, and have you got proof they were fitted? I assume you bought the car already cammed and didn't cam it yourself?
Cam should add between 8-15bhp depending on loads of factors. So if your engine was only making 150 standard, then 165 with cams is a 'good result' as such. Thing is, if it was only making 150 then it was a far from healthy engine when standard. I'd do some investigating, as that is a low result for a healthy cammed f4r bud, I am afraid.
This is the problem you see mate, theirs not a receipt/proof for the cams but the previous owner was so convinced it had cams that he got it dyno runned to see what it made and it made 191 then! And that was on a Set of Dyno Dynamics rollers as well. That's why I can't see how theirs a 24bhp difference, I have since then replaced the KTR IC for a standard airbox with a ITG panel filter and a decat for a standard cat but I can't see that making much difference.
Its quite possible that it is just a unhealthy engine like you say, it could be timing, could be a lot of things, really I need to pull it apart and check the cams and timing etc. I'll have to do it in due time just to see what's what.
im on my phone atm but when I'm on the computer I'll put the old and new graph up.
Quite happy with 234bhp/ 225lbsft from the family wagon
Decent power from the Z4 (3.0 bi turbo?) mr2 turbo (let me know if you would like to come to the ring Alan ;p) , the mountune fiesta ST - it must be pretty nippy, good all round package! A ITB'd clio that made good power and sounds lovely.
thanks again Jon for another well organised year at SRR, hopefully Charlie sorts out another venue in time for next year.
Bobby and Fantom. What rollers were your previous power runs done on?
Some rollers are obviously known to over read. K-Tec's ecpecially.
Or it was a good engine, had cams fitted, mapped dangerously, made good figures initially and now the bad mapping has killed it and it's way down on power due to engine internal damage. Seen a few of those on 438s in particular now.Highly likely to be a 'fictional' first RR to be honest mate - either operator tweaking or over reading. I suspect it isn't running cams unfortunately, in which case it's quite a healthy stock engine at 165. Who did you buy it off? Still a massively tidy Cup you have mate, and at least you a good reliable benchmark to base future mods on.
Corten-Miller, haven't had direct dealings. Some mixed impressions of there tuning work, but nothing about the RR being over the top
@Bobby. I doubt its running cams, i remember seeing your car for sale and not being convinced.
Rollers do make a massive difference though, as many found out with there cammed cars at the rolling road we use.
Did @AlexW run? interested to see power there compared to Rindy's.
Or it was a good engine, had cams fitted, mapped dangerously, made good figures initially and now the bad mapping has killed it and it's way down on power due to engine internal damage. Seen a few of those on 438s in particular now.
Would they?The thing is, the Cams would of been fitted long before it was dyno'd to make 191. Your theory could still apply though.
Or it was a good engine, had cams fitted, mapped dangerously, made good figures initially and now the bad mapping has killed it and it's way down on power due to engine internal damage. Seen a few of those on 438s in particular now.
The thing is, the Cams would of been fitted long before it was dyno'd to make 191. Your theory could still apply though.
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Dissapointed with my RR results TBH Charlie thinks something is restricting it, because it just drops off. It made 171.5bhp last time at SRR.
Would they?
I've no idea as not familiar with his car.
I'm sure I've seen one of those aswell. Not sure where though
Is it eating any oil? Showing any other signs of engine wear?
The drop off is the dephasor switching off I would think.
Its 2.5 bhp different to last time. That's the same reading really as runs vary that much back to back sometimes.
Theres only one way to find out really @Bobby. and thats opening it up to see whats in there I guess! Unless someone can tell from looking at the map?
That would solve it once and for all, plus I can make sure the timings correct as well. I will do it at some stage.
Harsh reality is matched inlets make very little difference and AC delete makes nothing measurable if it's run with the aircon turned off anyway.I hadn't thought about the dephaser switching off. All new belts and dephaser fitted in Sep 2013. Also had PMS AC delete, and matched inlets fitted since the last run, so was hopping for 172bhp or more TBH.
Take it down to mike at MWM and he will have a look at it for ya bud
Aren't mini GPs rated at over 200hp?
What about cat cams chip? You can cast your eye over it at Bedford this sat if you like