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T1-R or Parada Spec 2



Both are appealing to me.

Whats better for all round driving or is there anything else i should look at. Not looking to spend too much but still want something better than my 3 budget tyres.
 

Whisker biscuit

ClioSport Club Member
Got myself 4x 195/50/15 T1-r's last week and they do the job well in both wet and dry but iv heard they dont last just as well as other brands ? Lovely tread pattern as well :)
 

Greeny.

ClioSport Club Member
  440i + 182
T1-R's are a bargin tbh and im happy enough with them, paradas are meant to be better than the Toyos in the dry but awful in the wet, im not talking from experience though.
 
  S4 Avant
I'll be getting paradas, purely for the dry grip they offer. The wet grip can't be any worse than the budgets I have at the moment.
 

16v_paddy

ClioSport Club Member
  Valvers & 172 Cup
I fookin love my parads :D awesome dry grip, I also reckon they're great in the wet but can only really compare them to the budget tyres I had on before & not any others but good nonetheless

Try ebay if you want yoko's ;) I got my most recent pair (195/50/15) for £56 delivered and the pair before that for £60 something. I'll always look there 1st as you can get lucky sometimes & get some seriously cheap
 
I fookin love my parads :D awesome dry grip, I also reckon they're great in the wet but can only really compare them to the budget tyres I had on before & not any others but good nonetheless

Try ebay if you want yoko's ;) I got my most recent pair (195/50/15) for £56 delivered and the pair before that for £60 something. I'll always look there 1st as you can get lucky sometimes & get some seriously cheap

Cheers, i've just sent a message to someone selling a single one who owns a garage in my area. See how cheap he can do me 4 + fitting.
 
B

bigrich690

T1-R's are a bargin tbh and im happy enough with them, paradas are meant to be better than the Toyos in the dry but awful in the wet, im not talking from experience though.

I've had both and tbh i prefer T1-R's, i've used them on every car i've owned and getting some more when i change my wheels again, i had yoko's on my last set of wheels and i'd say they are just as good in the dry, but as soon as it gets a touch of wet on them they are :quiet:ing pants, and the toyo's are cheaper, good luck, you know what to do :eek:
 
  b/g 182, meg tourer
i dont really have any complaints with my t1-r's. played around with the pressures a little and it seems to feel great at the moment 34psi front, 31psi rear.
mine last me about a year or just over on the front and i do about 10k a year on them, mixed driving, not many motorway miles.
great value for money.
my brother has parada on his ph1. i really like them, great dry grip, not as good as t1-r in standing water. i was going for paradas but was struggling to get some in 205/45/16.
you wont be unhappy with either tbh mate.
 

Ali

  V6, Trackhawk, GTS
T1-R's are decent tbh, got them on the Vee. They last well and have decent dry grip. Car doesn't get driven in the wet much, but they wern't great!!
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)
T1-R's all day long.

Had both and the toyos are vastly superior. Better noise too. The paradas were loud.
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
Are the Hankook's not semi slicks?? :S
No, those are the RS2's. The V12 Evo is a fairly new road tyre.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2009-Auto-Zeitung-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
The results are surprising. Including both the measured data, and the subjective scores the final results looks like this:
1. Pirelli P Zero
2. Continental Sport Contact 3
3. Dunlop SP Sport Maxx TT
4. Hankook Ventus V12 Evo
5. Bridgestone Potenza RE 050 A
6. Michelin Pilot Sport 2
7. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
8. Nokian ZG2
9. Goodyear Eagle F1 A
10. Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
11. BF Goodrich G-Force Profiler
12. Firestone firehawk S790
13. Fulda Carat Excelero
14. Kumho Ecsta
15. Bravuris Barum
16. Toyo T1R
 

Ali

  V6, Trackhawk, GTS
Not bad! I'm sure i seen another tyre test where the Vredestein came top... I've got 2 PS2's to replace on the CSL's soon! :( 300£ a tyre!!!
 
  Clio RS 172 /Trafic
I've got T1-R's on my 172. They wear really well on the back but the fronts have scrubbed the outer edge off on track days. Under normal road use the fronts wear normally without scrubbing the edges off unless you are an absolute loon. They grip well but I've been playing around with tyre pressures on the back and currently run at 31psi all round. I had the rears at 28 for a while but found the handling was a bit mushy on twisty stuff.
 
Parada Spec 2s are better by quite a lot IMO. Very very good in the dry, but not so hot in the wet!

I went from T1Rs to Spec 2s when I swapped wheels with someone. Drove there, swapped and drove back the same road on the Spec 2s. Very bid difference for me!

However, having just got new wheels and thinking sensibly I've gone for T1Rs purely because of the wet grip advantages over the Spec 2s. Makes sense when winter has pretty much begun! They're great tyres don't get me wrong but the Spec 2s are superior. I never ran out of grip with the Spec 2s, whereas I often do with the T1Rs and that's in the dry.

So for me, Spec 2s are the better tyre, but when there is a chance more days will be wet than dry I'd rather better my chances of staying out of a ditch and get T1Rs over winter. They still do the job when the sun shines which makes up for the poor wet grip.

Oh and I drive a Yaris T Sport so can't comment on a Clio but I guess there can't be too much difference!
 
  120d M Sport
T1-R's, at the price you can get them, you cant go wrong with really.

Particularly on a 1.2 where they arent handling so much power on the front.

I've got a brand new set of 4 on mine, cost £122 delivered off ebay, £40 to get them fitted and balanced and the amount of grip theyve added over what I had before is unreal.

Another tyre worth looking at in the same price bracket is the Uniroyal Rainsport 2, can get 4 fitted and balanced in 195/50/15 at a place by me for £165.
 
  Mk2 1.2 Campus
I had 4 Toyo T1-R and thought they were a great all round budget tyre.

I now have 4 Parada spec 2 and they're good for the money. I feel they're better in the dry but not by much. Might sound strange but they seem to be bad in the damp but in heavy rain they feel good.
 


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