The redline!!

[lusty v-tec]

What does this actually mean?

Does it mean "This is the point where I blow up, so keep me out of the Redline zone" or does it mean

"Keep me in the redline zone because that is where I produce maximum power and I enjoy being there"

 

[Racingblue182]

In your case it means you are now doing 17mph in first gear!

 

[Munday]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline

 

[lusty v-tec]

In your case it means you are now doing 17mph in first gear!

 

[_Kenny_]

It means VTEC time, oops wrong forum

 

[Dash]

At some point in your driving lessons your instructor will explain this. Good luck in passing your test.

 

[lusty v-tec]

At some point in your driving lessons your instructor will explain this. Good luck in passing your test.

Hush Fool!

Ive already passed and have had my license for nearly 3 years now so ner

 

[gr1340]

However, even with these electronic protection systems, a car is not prevented from redlining through inadvertent gear engagement. If a driver accidentally selects a lower gear when trying to shift up, the engine will be forced to rapidly rev-up to match the speed of the drivetrain. If this happens while the engine was at high rpms, it may dramatically exceed the redline. For example, if the operator is driving close to redline in 3rd gear and attempts to shift to 4th gear but unintentionally puts the car in 2nd by mistake, the transmission will be spinning much faster than the engine, and when the clutch is released the engine’s rpm will increase rapidly.

= f**kED

 

[clio172cup20]

However, even with these electronic protection systems, a car is not prevented from redlining through inadvertent gear engagement. If a driver accidentally selects a lower gear when trying to shift up, the engine will be forced to rapidly rev-up to match the speed of the drivetrain. If this happens while the engine was at high rpms, it may dramatically exceed the redline. For example, if the operator is driving close to redline in 3rd gear and attempts to shift to 4th gear but unintentionally puts the car in 2nd by mistake, the transmission will be spinning much faster than the engine, and when the clutch is released the engine’s rpm will increase rapidly.

= f**kED

I did that in my cup, i was in high 4th, went to hit it in 5th but went in to 3rd...
Opps

 

[lusty v-tec]

wont the rev limiter stop the damage from happening?

 

[Dash]

At some point in your driving lessons your instructor will explain this. Good luck in passing your test.

Hush Fool!

Ive already passed and have had my license for nearly 3 years now so ner

LMAOAFMBWP

 

[kully]

no

 

[clio172cup20]

wont the rev limiter stop the damage from happening?

It will jump it!!

People put cars in the redline because they want maxperformance, but what some people forget is that the PEAK power is about 1000 less than the limiter

 

[fmp_]

the redline or rev limiter cuts the spark from the engine, stopping it from revving higher, and in thoery causing damage.

99% of engines can rev a good 500-1000 rpm higher than thier redline safely, but manufactures give themselves a safety net for obvious resaons.

Hitting the redline now and then wont damage your engine, bouncing your car off it for 30mins straight may well....

 

[lusty v-tec]

wont the rev limiter stop the damage from happening?

It will jump it!!

People put cars in the redline because they want maxperformance, but what some people forget is that the PEAK power is about 1000 less than the limiter

so if you go past peak performance then the car will start to accelerate slower? Does anyone knmow where peak performance is in my 1.2 16v?

 

[gr1340]

rolling down a very steep hill - lol

 

[clio172cup20]

It will jump it!!

People put cars in the redline because they want maxperformance, but what some people forget is that the PEAK power is about 1000 less than the limiter

so if you go past peak performance then the car will start to accelerate slower? Does anyone knmow where peak performance is in my 1.2 16v?

Power will still gain, but at a slower rate than if you was to change gear.
Probabley about 6100 - 6250

 

[lusty v-tec]

the redline or rev limiter cuts the spark from the engine, stopping it from revving higher, and in thoery causing damage.

99% of engines can rev a good 500-1000 rpm higher than thier redline safely, but manufactures give themselves a safety net for obvious resaons.

Hitting the redline now and then wont damage your engine, bouncing your car off it for 30mins straight may well....

id have thought if an engine can spin at 7k for example for 1 second then why cant it keep it up for say 30 seconds?

rolling down a very steep hill - lol

go away :rasp:

 

[Griff]

Did you pass your 11+ Lusty?

 

[Cookie]

Did you pass your 11+ Lusty?

He's still studying for his year 6 SATS bless im

 

[lusty v-tec]

Did you pass your 11+ Lusty?

and I got 3 A's at A-level :approve:

 

[clio172cup20]

the redline or rev limiter cuts the spark from the engine, stopping it from revving higher, and in thoery causing damage.

99% of engines can rev a good 500-1000 rpm higher than thier redline safely, but manufactures give themselves a safety net for obvious resaons.

Hitting the redline now and then wont damage your engine, bouncing your car off it for 30mins straight may well....

Depends on the car!!

Compare that between a new ford KA and a Porsche GT3 RS
I would say you could bounce the limited all day in the gt3 with no damaged caused.
Another story for the KA

 

[AlexS]

Limiter is 6200rpm on the 1.2 16v there is really no point in taking it abover 6000rpm and i only nudge that once every now and again, every day driving my car doesn't see more than 3200rpm I wouldn't imagine.
And to those making comments about 17mph in first, and down a big hill etc, grow up. If you accept the 1.2 for what it is, they are good cars, they are not comparable to an rs, but they are nippy enough to build some confidence in as a first car and still have abit of fun.

 

[Racingblue182]

Limiter is 6200rpm on the 1.2 16v there is really no point in taking it abover 6000rpm and i only nudge that once every now and again, every day driving my car doesn't see more than 3200rpm I wouldn't imagine.
And to those making comments about 17mph in first, and down a big hill etc, grow up. If you accept the 1.2 for what it is, they are good cars, they are not comparable to an rs, but they are nippy enough to build some confidence in as a first car and still have abit of fun.

Dry those peeps princess, my comment was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. my last car was a 1.2 Clio and I know how good they are.

 

[AlexS]

Limiter is 6200rpm on the 1.2 16v there is really no point in taking it abover 6000rpm and i only nudge that once every now and again, every day driving my car doesn't see more than 3200rpm I wouldn't imagine.
And to those making comments about 17mph in first, and down a big hill etc, grow up. If you accept the 1.2 for what it is, they are good cars, they are not comparable to an rs, but they are nippy enough to build some confidence in as a first car and still have abit of fun.

Dry those peeps princess, my comment was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. my last car was a 1.2 Clio and I know how good they are.

Lol, gd gd, just defending the 1.2 owners, they aren't amazing but they aren't as bad as alot of people make out :approve:

 

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[lusty v-tec]

Dry those peeps princess, my comment was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. my last car was a 1.2 Clio and I know how good they are.

Lol, gd gd, just defending the 1.2 owners, they aren't amazing but they aren't as bad as alot of people make out :approve:

Typical RS boys - Think their better than everyone!! :dapprove:

 

[GordonD]

What does this actually mean?

Does it mean "This is the point where I blow up, so keep me out of the Redline zone" or does it mean

"Keep me in the redline zone because that is where I produce maximum power and I enjoy being there"

Actually its a good question.

It used to mean "bang rattle rattle rattle splutter silence", but these days it just means you're being silly and its time change up into the next gear if you want to go faster.

Engines used to actually blow up. You'd hot up a car and only find you'd hotted it up too far when the rod came out through the side of the crank case. These days they have rev limiters, and you have to grossly abuse them, like changing down when you mean to change up, to permanently damage them.

 

[Griff]

What does this actually mean?

Does it mean "This is the point where I blow up, so keep me out of the Redline zone" or does it mean

"Keep me in the redline zone because that is where I produce maximum power and I enjoy being there"

Actually its a good question.

It used to mean "bang rattle rattle rattle splutter silence", but these days it just means you're being silly and its time change up into the next gear if you want to go faster.

Engines used to actually blow up. You'd hot up a car and only find you'd hotted it up too far when the rod came out through the side of the crank case. These days they have rev limiters, and you have to grossly abuse them, like changing down when you mean to change up, to permanently damage them.

Come again?

 

[dick]

max power in 1.2 think its 75BHP @5500

and max torque at like 4400

 

[C.slicker]

Limiter is 6200rpm on the 1.2 16v there is really no point in taking it abover 6000rpm and i only nudge that once every now and again, every day driving my car doesn't see more than 3200rpm I wouldn't imagine.
And to those making comments about 17mph in first, and down a big hill etc, grow up. If you accept the 1.2 for what it is, they are good cars, they are not comparable to an rs, but they are nippy enough to build some confidence in as a first car and still have abit of fun.

Agree with all the above apart from only taking it to 6krpm every now and and again!

 

[C.slicker]

Lusty to know exactly you need to get your car RR'd.

Sam

 

[jjoe90]

It means VTEC time, oops wrong forum

chico time

 

[lusty v-tec]

Lusty to know exactly you need to get your car RR'd.

Sam

how do they drive the car on rolling roads? Do they just put it in 1st and give it full throttle until it hits the limiter, then back off?

 

[cat171]

They go through the gears like normal up to fourth, as most are run in fourth gear for the figures.

Your car will not blow up on a rolling road.

 

[mark_s]

Your car will not blow up on a rolling road.

pmsl, i dont know why that made me giggle but it did