Thinking of getting cams

[j444snb]

Hey guys thinking of getting cams

are they worth getting and what brand would you say to go for

i have a 172 phase 2 with a sports cat and cat back exhaust

 

[Mr Plums]

Are your belts due?

Imo they are not worth it otherwise..

 

[j444snb]

Think so will have to look the car has just hit 55k on the clock

 

[Mr R.]

Catcams 421's or the Pipers which are half the price but are re grinds.

 

[j444snb]

And I take it I need a re map after wards , would a re tuner be ok ?

 

[Mr R.]

Yes you would, a proper custom one.

 

[Mr Plums]

Yes you would, a proper custom one.

+1, somewhere like rstuning in leeds.

Not a "re" tuner one, these are good for cars with basic mods like exhausts/air filters.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

And I take it I need a re map after wards , would a re tuner be ok ?

It'll run the Pipers ok, I can't speak for the catcams. But you won't get the gains without a custom remap.

 

[Mr Plums]

It'll run the Pipers ok, I can't speak for the catcams. But you won't get the gains without a custom remap.

Can you tell the difference with the cams on the road mate? Or would you rather have £1400 knicker in the bank?

 

[aucky]

Not a "re" tuner one, these are good for cars with basic mods like exhausts/air filters.

Not really? £1500 of matched inlets, exhaust, cams, filter, map etc will still see ~15bhp. Same goes for RS2.

 

[Mr Plums]

Not really? £1500 of matched inlets, exhaust, cams, filter, map etc will still see ~15bhp. Same goes for RS2.

I wouldnt want to run my car on a generic map with those mods, id want a custom map tbh, but each to their own.

 

[aucky]

I wouldnt want to run my car on a generic map with those mods, id want a custom map tbh, but each to their own.

My point is you said they're good with breating mods. I'm saying that they aren't in fact cost effective at all.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Can you tell the difference with the cams on the road mate? Or would you rather have £1400 knicker in the bank?

The cams were £320. The engine was apart anyway for other bits so £1400 got me cams, ported head, Supertech valves, new dephaser and a remap.

Can I feel it, yes the 173lbft is more torque than a RS2 manifold would have got me and for around the same or less money. Granted the 184bhp I've got isn't as much but in terms of torque it's much, much better.



Besides I'm getting ITBs this month so it'll be better again and the cams and headwork will come into effect more

 

[Andyman]

Same with mine Tom. Running Piper cams and ported head was making more torque than RS2's - iirc 175 lb/ft - 186bhp

 

[kaz2664]

Not worth it IMO ,been there and done it ,had my 172 cup cammed by btm ,did feel a lot quicker at first , this was party due to the last owner cocking up the timing belt and it only running at 150 bhp,once cammed it ran at 175 bhp and 168 torque,But have since been in a friends 182 which ran 178 bhp with just normal breathing mods which felt just as quick.Looking at buying a 182 at the moment and will not be camming it ,think mine cost about 1500 all in this was Cambelt change ,cams and mapping by rs tuning here in Leeds.Hope this helps .

 

[davo172]

I have Been to a rolling road days where good strong na Cars with other mods made more power than cammed cars waste of money imo. If your goin for decent power boost is the only way !

 

[Dan519]

Its more like £1100 all in from me.