Timesonline 197 Cup Review

[Lee]

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/new_car_reviews/article3209216.ece

 

[Tom]

Theres also a great feature in autocar, by colin.

 

[Lee]

I just saw that, I need to pick a copy up.

 

[ForceIndia]

s**t review, puts handling in the negative column (unruly), then bangs on about 'feelsome steering'!!

 

[paul]

are you buying one Lee LOL

 

[Lee]

I'm sick of waiting, but I'm not losing out by having it on a 57 plate. It's currently in the dealers pound. lol

 

[paul]

I'm sick of waiting, but I'm not losing out by having it on a 57 plate. It's currently in the dealers pound. lol

i thought as much - if you like yours that much! ill be taking a test drive for sure... look forward to your thread

awaits title

ITS ARRIVED LOL

 

[Timmay]

ill be taking a test drive for sure...

but they dont do em in orange!

 

[paul]

ill be taking a test drive for sure...

but they dont do em in orange!

oh says

 

[Timmay]

suppose a respray would do ya!

 

[paul]

suppose a respray would do ya!

i would have white or blue ill have you know! do i buy seats for my cup or have a 197 cup with recaros decisions decisions

 

[Timmay]

new 197 cup FTW!!

 

[paul]

new 197 cup FTW!!

Possibly sensible rather than spending more money on the 182

 

[Timmay]

knowsit!

 

[chris_182]

s**t review, puts handling in the negative column (unruly), then bangs on about 'feelsome steering'!!

that was the negative for the vauxhall..

 

[Ollie82.]

new 197 cup FTW!!

Possibly sensible rather than spending more money on the 182

Well i opted OUT of buying a 197 Cup in favour of spending money on my 172 Cup!

Go figure.

 

[DrR]

"Russel your car cost nearly £30,000

And it looks rubbish.

Clio Cup FTW"


Who was that!

 

[Ollie82.]

Some interesting quotes from that review.

Firstly...exactly the same principle Lotus work to.

Every kilo you shave off a car saves fuel and . Better still, the process of lightening reduces CO2 a car feeds on itself. Shedding some weight from a car’s body means there’s less car to stop so you can fit smaller, lighter brakes. Because it’s lighter, the car requires less persuasion to change direction, so you can fit thinner wheels and tyres without losing grip and you can take weight out of the suspension. And this lighter car needs less energy to maintain the same level of performance so you can fit a smaller engine that, guess what, will use less fuel and emit lower levels of CO2 Best of all, however, light cars are more fun to drive than heavy ones. They feel more alive in your hands, react more quickly to your input, make you feel more part of the experience.

And this comment which relates pretty much to the 172 Cup...bar the 6 speed box bit.

If you drive it slowly the steering jumps about in your hands and you jump around in your seat because the suspension is unyielding and the engine truculent.
But if you drive as its makers intend, by thrashing the engine, slashing the gearlever around its six-speed gate and flinging it into corners, it’ll do things few cars, let alone £15,000 hatchbacks, could imagine.

 

[Darren S]

I really need to see one in the flesh for me to like the looks of it more. All the promo shots I've seen of it (including the one on this review) look sh1t, imo. Like some rounded Korean fart-box motor.

.....and I'm Mr. White Car + Black Alloys = Heaven..... <---

D.

 

[Ollie82.]

I really need to see one in the flesh for me to like the looks of it more. All the promo shots I've seen of it (including the one on this review) look sh1t, imo. Like some rounded Korean fart-box motor.

.....and I'm Mr. White Car + Black Alloys = Heaven..... <---

D.

 

[ForceIndia]

The Maserati Quattroporte is, quite frankly, a gourmet slut – Nigella Lawson with the moral compass of Abi Titmuss.

Genius. Jimmy Carr should be on Top Gear every week.

 

[Darren S]

I really need to see one in the flesh for me to like the looks of it more. All the promo shots I've seen of it (including the one on this review) look sh1t, imo. Like some rounded Korean fart-box motor.

.....and I'm Mr. White Car + Black Alloys = Heaven..... <---

D.

Now then! :approve:

D.

 

[Rich]

I'm sick of waiting, but I'm not losing out by having it on a 57 plate. It's currently in the dealers pound. lol

That must be painful - trade plates ? lol

 

[Lee]

I'm sick of waiting, but I'm not losing out by having it on a 57 plate. It's currently in the dealers pound. lol

That must be painful - trade plates ? lol

Not as painful as it being worth 5 - 7 % less due to being an 08 car on a 57 plate.

 

[Rich]

lol !

When I ordered the 182 in Dec they said I could have it late Jan and I declined for the same reasons. Mine must have sat in the docks or something as it only got to the dealers a few days before March 1st.

 

[ukaskew]

That must be painful - trade plates ? lol

Not as painful as it being worth 5 - 7 % less due to being an 08 car on a 57 plate.

You've got some patience! To me 40 days of driving joy is waaaaay more important than losing 5% one day in the future, at the end of the day the values are going to drop like a brick anyway, you don't buy a Renault for its resale value. I guess I'm subscribing to the 'you could get hit by a bus tomorrow' way of thinking though.

 

[Lee]

Not as painful as it being worth 5 - 7 % less due to being an 08 car on a 57 plate.

You've got some patience! To me 40 days of driving joy is waaaaay more important than losing 5% one day in the future, at the end of the day the values are going to drop like a brick anyway, you don't buy a Renault for its resale value. I guess I'm subscribing to the 'you could get hit by a bus tomorrow' way of thinking though.

I'm getting plenty of driving joy in the Trophy still. I don't want to part with it, but we all have to move on. I'm sad, but I don't like 5* plates. I've only ever had 0* plates so I want to keep that up. Plus 5 - 7% is a lot when I worked hard to get the car at such a good price. Plus I'll bang a lot of miles on it in a very short space of time so it's worth limiting the loss a little. I certainly don't buy cars based on resale, hence 4th Clio in a row. But I may as well at least be slightly sensible about it.

Oh and I've always wanted to collect a new car on the first day of registration. The last 4 weren't. Even the 172 was the 3rd day.

I ran the 182 for 12 months and it cost me a grand to swap to the Trophy. Shame I couldn't part with the Trophy.

 

[Cookie]

I really need to see one in the flesh for me to like the looks of it more. All the promo shots I've seen of it (including the one on this review) look sh1t, imo. Like some rounded Korean fart-box motor.

.....and I'm Mr. White Car + Black Alloys = Heaven..... <---

D.

Anymore pictures like that and I am sooo gonna end up buying an Exige rather than a house

 

[Munson]

It is indeed shameless car pornography :approve: