Torque of the devil?? Anyone been there?

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Just wondered if anyone has had their car mapped there?

Fred@BTM · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Fred said:

looking forward to it

Tom@JMS · Jul 23, 2009

As in the Uxbridge based company? Only a stones throw from us, I have heard a few strange stories....

Fred@BTM · Jul 23, 2009

oh aye? go on

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

tompoms said:
As in the Uxbridge based company? Only a stones throw from us, I have heard a few strange stories....

U mean like every other mapping company in the country

Tom@JMS · Jul 23, 2009

Only word of mouth fluff so no basis for commenting or quoting, never been there, never had anything to do with them.

Dan R said:
U mean like every other mapping company in the country

Your more than likely right.

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

tompoms said:
Only word of mouth fluff so no basis for commenting or quoting, never been there, never had anything to do with them.

Your more than likely right.

I know i am lol. Everywhere gets a slagging off. Aslong as they make my car better im not fussed

Tom@JMS · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R said:
I know i am lol. Everywhere gets a slagging off. Aslong as they make my car better im not fussed

Agreed, Could very well be unfounded BS.

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

tompoms said:
Agreed, Could very well be unfounded BS.

lol

ForceIndia · Jul 23, 2009

Thought you went to GDi?

D4N13L · Jul 23, 2009

I think -jon l- has mentioned them before might be worth pm'ing him

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

warren4 said:
Thought you went to GDi?

I do but my car doesnt drive right. Numerous people have driven it and said thats not right. Id like to say it was intermittent but it isnt. However it only does it 7 times outta 10 if u get wot i mean.

ForceIndia · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R said:
I do but my car doesnt drive right. Numerous people have driven it and said thats not right. Id like to say it was intermittent but it isnt. However it only does it 7 times outta 10 if u get wot i mean.

Fair enough. Long way to travel, but if it gets it sorted its worth it.

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

warren4 said:
Fair enough. Long way to travel, but if it gets it sorted its worth it.

well thats what im hoping. Not as far as GDI now they are with Ktec racing.
Just want a second opinion on the map and setting etc etc.
Im not bothered aslong as its fixed.
Im gong to take it to OMEX soon and take rich out in it and make it do what im talking about then i think he will soon change his opinion on whether the car is right or wrong

Inferno · Jul 23, 2009

I've just been talking to a friend who had his Fiesta RS Turbo mapped at Torque of the Devil - he said they were excellent and he would go back and use them again and again.

I went out in that car after it had been worked on and it was incredibly smooth, so much more tractable than it was beforehand.

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Inferno said:
I've just been talking to a friend who had his Fiesta RS Turbo mapped at Torque of the Devil - he said they were excellent and he would go back and use them again and again.

I went out in that car after it had been worked on and it was incredibly smooth, so much more tractable than it was beforehand.

Cool good to hear

looking forward to the results with mine!

-J- · Jul 23, 2009

Went to a rolling road day there with another club once, Cracking Sausage Sandwich and Coffee breakfast they put on for us IIRC.

I think the "Rumours" that were floating about was a little bit of willy waving between PE and TOTD.

I did try and sort out a RR day for the Herts / North London lot but there was no interest.

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

-J- said:
Went to a rolling road day there with another club once, Cracking Sausage Sandwich and Coffee breakfast they put on for us IIRC.

I think the "Rumours" that were floating about was a little bit of willy waving between PE and TOTD.

I did try and sort out a RR day for the Herts / North London lot but there was no interest.

PE??

Jon.L · Jul 23, 2009

yer power engineering and torque of the devil are stones throws away so there going to be a few rumours floating around, i no lots of peole who have been there its a highly spoke of place on the ford scene, im actually up ther sat morning as my mates rs focus in going on the rollers. would recommend from what ive herd though matey

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Jon.L said:
yer power engineering and torque of the devil are stones throws away so there going to be a few rumours floating around, i no lots of peole who have been there its a highly spoke of place on the ford scene, im actually up ther sat morning as my mates rs focus in going on the rollers. would recommend from what ive herd though matey

cool cheers

they sounded positive on the phone which is always a good sign.
Not some tool grunting down the phone at u showing no interest at all lol

-J- · Jul 23, 2009

Power Engineering - Another local company.

The some of the staff that opened up TOTD used to work for PE so there was allegedly some heat between the company's.

As I say this is all rumor though from when i was into my Fords, nothing i have ever seen to back it up.

The Lads at TOTD were all great when we went down.

Icarus · Jul 23, 2009

Nowt wrong with them IMHO. I've spoken with them a few times about Pectel stuff when they've been stuck and they seem a decent bunch.

Cheers
M

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Icarus said:
Nowt wrong with them IMHO. I've spoken with them a few times about Pectel stuff when they've been stuck and they seem a decent bunch.

Cheers
M

Tom@JMS · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R said:
Not some tool grunting down the phone at u showing no interest at all lol

lol at that image!

These are the other guys where the friction was caused, based literally within eye sight of one another - my rollers bigger than yours seemed to be the general gist...

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/acatalog/power.htm

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

tompoms said:
lol at that image!

These are the other guys where the friction was caused, based literally within eye sight of one another - my rollers bigger than yours seemed to be the general gist...

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/acatalog/power.htm

Lmao, i can imagine especially if some used to work at the other place!

Jon.L · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R said:
cool cheers they sounded positive on the phone which is always a good sign.
Not some tool grunting down the phone at u showing no interest at all lol

lol what you looking at having done mate?

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Jon.L said:
lol what you looking at having done mate?

fixing my car lol

Dan R · Jul 23, 2009

Although now i think Icarus may have solved the problem for me!!!

kevin.s · Jul 23, 2009

my mate at work says they are sposed to be the best at what they do and is saving to get his car done there. cant speak for myself though as i havent used them.

Icarus · Jul 23, 2009

Dan R said:
Although now i think Icarus may have solved the problem for me!!!

Very likely. I'm quite handy with these car things........

Cheers
M

Gez · Jul 23, 2009

Chris Todd is the man to speak to down at TOTD. he mapped my punto GT and remapped my clio too.
Well reccomended

Fred@BTM · Jul 24, 2009

^yep chris is "the man"

he did the mapping on the first ever clio 172 on throttle bodies (roamers car)

the s**t between PE and TOD is due to most of the staff leaving PE and setting up TOD, i wouldn't hesitate recommending TOD, excellent bunch, Chris especially

Dan R · Jul 24, 2009

Fred said:
^yep chris is "the man"

he did the mapping on the first ever clio 172 on throttle bodies (roamers car)

the s**t between PE and TOD is due to most of the staff leaving PE and setting up TOD, i wouldn't hesitate recommending TOD, excellent bunch, Chris especially

Cool well tbh im going to see icarus cos hes convinced its the throttle position sensor. Hes going to plug the laptop in and go for a drive to see whats going on.
The problem cant be seen on the rollers so needs to be driven with him next to me

Icarus · Jul 24, 2009

Dan R said:
Cool well tbh im going to see icarus cos hes convinced its the throttle position sensor. Hes going to plug the laptop in and go for a drive to see whats going on.
The problem cant be seen on the rollers so needs to be driven with him next to me

Data logging most definately 'FTW' in this situation as Dan appears to be able to reproduce the fault consistantly. Proper logging session will show what the ECU is seeing from the sensors under various transients and what its doing in response.

This one appears to be more mechanical failure related than calibration related!

Cheers
M

Dangerous_dave · Jul 24, 2009

im going to TOD today, mate is putting in his wrx sti type R v limited for 400 horses, been in there before thought they knew what they were talking about.

Dan R · Jul 24, 2009

Icarus said:
Data logging most definately 'FTW' in this situation as Dan appears to be able to reproduce the fault consistantly. Proper logging session will show what the ECU is seeing from the sensors under various transients and what its doing in response.

This one appears to be more mechanical failure related than calibration related!

Cheers
M

Yeah i think so too, definately. Whats so annoying is i think ive developed a driving style now which almost makes me hunt for this problem everytime i drive the car. It is hideous when it happens tho!

Icarus · Jul 24, 2009

You've only got a single point of reference for the ECU to determine load hence if that fails any additional air mass delivered won't be fueled for!

Cheers
M

Dan R · Jul 24, 2009

Icarus said:
You've only got a single point of reference for the ECU to determine load hence if that fails any additional air mass delivered won't be fueled for!

Cheers
M

And thats exactly what it feels like when u give it full throttle!! All the air but no fuel to go with it which is why it completely bogs down and goes awfully quiet

So bloody annoying!

Torque of the devil?? Anyone been there?

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