Tyre Choice??

[wannie]

Right I've bought myself a 172 cup for a bit of fun & a little project to pass my spare time. I was after some advice on what size tyres would be best? At the moment it has 195 45 16 on which need replacing, would this be the best profile size?

 

[TimR26]

Yes, that's the correct size. Michelin PE2 are good if you can still get hold of them.

 

[sbridgey]

you can put 205's on if you want.

 

[Bobby.]

You get what you pay for with tyres.

do a search, it's covered loads.

 

[easym5]

I just fitted a set of 172 cup turinis on mine and used 205s as theres little difference in the price to 195s

 

[wannie]

Cheers guys, would there be any difference in the handling with 205's? I was thinking a set toyo t1r's

 

[wannie]

You get what you pay for with tyres.

do a search, it's covered loads.

Without a doubt, i wouldn't even consider cheap tyres. Is was more about the profile tbh

 

[easym5]

Widers always better ?

 

[MG cup]

Widers always better ?

If it fits with no rubbing, off course. Bigger is always better, or so I'm told from women!

 

[Addicted]

205/45/16 gets my vote.

I've got Hankook V12's and find them decent, a lot of people recommend Uniroyal Rainsport (or something).

 

[wannie]

If it fits with no rubbing, off course. Bigger is always better, or so I'm told from women!

lol

 

[wannie]

Addicted, are you running standard suspension?

 

[Addicted]

I have Eibach sportline springs on non-cup shocks, fine here - not sure how it is on a 172 though, may need to search for that


No rubbing at all though - and I run Turinis. (not sure if that helps, but should do with the same offset etc).

 

[Matt W]

I had more tram lining with 205 width over 195's.

 

[JON13S]

I'm running 205/45/16 on my 172cup uniroyal rainsport2. Can't knock them and have been amazing in the wet and snow. Not too expensive either so get my vote. Car only gets used on the road though.

 

[steviem]

I've just had a set of 4 maxxis 195/45/16 MA-Z1's.
They came highly recommended and get great reviews.
Be interesting to see how they perform.
Got them from these guys http://www.tyretraders.com/tyres_home.aspx
Brilliant price and service. Ordered them Thursday morning and they arrived Friday morning.
Less than 200 notes for a set of 4.

 

[Bendunn]

Stick with michelins, get the pilot sport 3's Xl, W rated ones with the stiff sidewalls

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

Yes, that's the correct size. Michelin PE2 are good if you can still get hold of them.

You get what you pay for with tyres.

This IMO

 

[Adam G]

I've just had a set of 4 maxxis 195/45/16 MA-Z1's.
They came highly recommended and get great reviews.
Be interesting to see how they perform.
Got them from these guys http://www.tyretraders.com/tyres_home.aspx
Brilliant price and service. Ordered them Thursday morning and they arrived Friday morning.
Less than 200 notes for a set of 4.

Very good for the price of them and last forever. If you're only using the car for road use, they are perfect.

 

[Xanda73]

PE2's not as good in the dry as Yoko Prada Spec 2's or Toyo T1R's IMO. Different story in the wet however, the PE2's are a lot better.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

I'm running 205/45/16 on my 172cup uniroyal rainsport2. Can't knock them and have been amazing in the wet and snow. Not too expensive either so get my vote. Car only gets used on the road though.

Another vote here for the Uniroyal Rainsport 2's . As good as the PE2's were imo , especially in the wet .

 

[MicKPM]

I run Hankook V12's on my Turinis and I can't sing there praise enough. Just put some Williams Speedlines on for track use and fitted them with some new PE2's and in the wet I'm impressed.

Yoko Spec 2's are a great tyre but they wear so fast.

 

[Gally]

They have a proper soft compound hence the super dry/hot grip. I still find it amazing people can judge the Yokos to be bad in the wet on the road!

I dread to think how people drive in wet conditions.

 

[Lal B3N]

Flol as Michelin not as good as t1rs in the dry. Dream world.

1. Pzero Nero
2. Pilot sport 3s

Or a vredestein sportrac 3 or ultrac sessantas depending on what's available in either Cliosport size.

I found Pzeros best mileage and grip in wet and dry and cheaper than the Michelins. I was wearing my Michelins down fairly quick for the time they were on.

 

[Gally]

Sessantas are pound for pound one of the best tyres out there but 17"+ sadly.

I'd fit Barum (budget continental) before i'd fit T1r's.

 

[Xanda73]

I run Hankook V12's on my Turinis and I can't sing there praise enough. Just put some Williams Speedlines on for track use and fitted them with some new PE2's and in the wet I'm impressed.

Yoko Spec 2's are a great tyre but they wear so fast.

I got 13k miles out of the last set of Spec 2's, which for the price I think is pretty good.

What are the V12's like in comparison to the Spec 2's and PE2's, in your opinion?

 

[Gally]

Spec 2s have been on my old Yellow Puma for probably 3 1/2 years now.

My Dad drives like Miss Daisy but still does a few miles.

All depends on how you drive.

 

[Xanda73]

Yeah I know Gally, and by your own admission you drive like Miss Daisy. TBH, if I was the OP, I'd rather have the opinion of somebody who pushes their car a bit.

 

[Stefan.]

out of these what would peoples opinon advice to go for i will be needing 4 new tyres in the not so distant future

micheline ps3 - heard mixed reviews
yokoham spec 2 - not sure if as good as michelins
bridgestone potenza re11 - better review than michelin ps3 apparantly

any other top brands...

for driving on road.

 

[Adam G]

PZero Nero, Conti SC3, Avon ZV5.
Have had these on mine for road and track use. Personally think the Pirellis are my fave. Avons seem to wear a bit better and are a bit cheaper but don't give quite as good feel.

 

[Stefan.]

PZero Nero, Conti SC3, Avon ZV5.
Have had these on mine for road and track use. Personally think the Pirellis are my fave. Avons seem to wear a bit better and are a bit cheaper but don't give quite as good feel.

i was going to say the pirellis but heard mixed reviews again :dapprove: thing is with buying 4 i dont want to get it wrong ha

 

[Adam G]

I know you say for road use but do you drive gently to the speed limit or a bit quicker?
If you just drive in the city and average 30mph then there's no point going for the most expensive brands, to not reap their benefits.

 

[Stefan.]

I know you say for road use but do you drive gently to the speed limit or a bit quicker?
If you just drive in the city and average 30mph then there's no point going for the most expensive brands, to not reap their benefits.

il say 'spirited' from time to time

 

[Adam G]

If I didn't go on track then I would probably just go for the Avons. I'm of the age where I buy with my head, not because of peer pressure. They are more than adequate for spirited driving IMO and are about £20 a corner cheaper than the top brands. Bear in mind Avon have been making race tyres for years, so they know what they are doing.

 

[MicKPM]

I got 13k miles out of the last set of Spec 2's, which for the price I think is pretty good.

What are the V12's like in comparison to the Spec 2's and PE2's, in your opinion?

I've only just got the PE2's and the weather at present isn't ideal for pushing the Clio around the back roads but I'll let you know my opinion after Bedford.

I normally hate getting involved in these kinds of discussions as tyre choice is too subjective and everyone has differing opinions but the V12's have done me extremely well. Done just over 3k on this set and they've worn well to... just didnt fancy killing them on track.

 

[Lal B3N]

Pirellis for me, best value in my eyes.

 

[Šįk]

Goodyear Eagle F1's!!!

 

[Don]

If I didn't go on track then I would probably just go for the Avons. I'm of the age where I buy with my head, not because of peer pressure. They are more than adequate for spirited driving IMO and are about £20 a corner cheaper than the top brands. Bear in mind Avon have been making race tyres for years, so they know what they are doing.

Adam, I had the Avon ZZ3 tyres on the 182. I personally would never buy them again. The inside edges were screwed on both front tyres...had tracking done after replacing them and tracking was spot on...couldn't believe how they wore so badly on inside edge.

 

[Adam G]

Should have gone for the 5s mate, honestly think they're really good for road use. Done two trackdays on and 000s of road miles too and still more than half tread left(I've got more middle age ballast than you as well)