once youve managed to fit it, let me know as thats one im contemplating getting, let me know what its like
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Underseat Sub?
- Thread starter sean.smithy
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once youve managed to fit it, let me know as thats one im contemplating getting, let me know what its like
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BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
So, I'm back in love with it. Just needed some fiddling with the head unit to improve things.
Will do ill order nxt wkonce youve managed to fit it, let me know as thats one im contemplating getting, let me know what its like
Looks like it will fit nice
do you think the pioneer or the kenwood one will match up to what you have and fit?
okay well let me know, i may have one before if i can decide but at the moment i cant haha do the sports seats have the same amount of room under the seats as mine? not sure if any layout is different thats all
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
do you think the pioneer or the kenwood one will match up to what you have and fit?
They're all almost exactly the same size.
oh so it should fit then
how easy was it to fit under your seat? was there enough room?
Gavin.
ClioSport Club Member
If anyone does fancy a small boot sub, give me a shout. I have this just taking up room at mine, pickup only though.
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BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Slid right in, sits fine.
are the seats the same in yours as they are in mine?
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
As near as makes no difference, I'd assume. Certainly doesn't seem to be any more space under them than I had in the 1.2.
i havent got an alpine head unit so unless theres one for a pioneer head unit then id consider it
Cheap but dedicated under seat sub doing <200 Hz plus standard/cheap components doing 200 Hz - 25 KHz off an 18W RMS headunit
vs 45W RMS driving four 5.25" (which obviously aren't suited to sub 200 Hz)
Preference ?????
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ive got some vibes off a friend, vibe se k-series, 6" in the front and 5.25" in the back but on standard wiring, a lot better sounding than standard. Id rather a dedicated under seat sub really
Polo + Micra
ive got some vibes off a friend, vibe se k-series, 6" in the front and 5.25" in the back but on standard wiring, a lot better sounding than standard. Id rather a dedicated under seat sub really
the wiring will do nothing to the output unless you start putting lots of power down it.
if your running those off a headunit you will see a massive difference andding an amp to them as you will probably be losing output by only sticking a small amount of power into them
i am running those off a headunit
so i know the power wont be there i guess i could consider an amp first, i would still possibly want an underseat sub as the videos and reviews ive seen have been really good
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Unless you're planning on drowning all else out with wikid bass, an underseat sub is perfectly ample at any reasonable volume.
My last car had some really decent door speakers, and this car has upgraded ones too, but the sound with an underseat sub is far better than the old setup.
An underseat sub sounds perfect for me. Im well past the stage of bleeding my own ears lol. I have decent door speakers anyway so I plan to run more treble through the speakers and let the sub do its job. Hopefully it will sound pretty decent
As above x2, plus I've got a KTP445. Underseat sub sounds ideal TBH.
Looking forward to letting a dedicated speaker do a sensible amount of a frequency that it's naturally designed for, thus freeing up the components to do their own thing with the assistance of the KTP.
Presumably you'd have to spend much more money for a 5.25" mid-bass in the rear door cars powered by a multi channel amp to be better at low frequencies than an 8" or so underseat sub.
Looking forward to letting a dedicated speaker do a sensible amount of a frequency that it's naturally designed for, thus freeing up the components to do their own thing with the assistance of the KTP.
Presumably you'd have to spend much more money for a 5.25" mid-bass in the rear door cars powered by a multi channel amp to be better at low frequencies than an 8" or so underseat sub.
Polo + Micra
the only thing thats going to get drowned out is the sub with all the road noise and the fact it's firing straight into a slab of sponge.
even household subs are 150w+ and they have much better conditions to operate in.
if it was me i'd look to build a sub enclosure with a slim 8" and connect it to an outboard amp so you can get a decent output from it
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
My mate has the pioneer underseat sub posted above in his transit connect.
The amount of road noise at any speed above 5mph in a connect, is ridiculous. However, the underseat sub has no problems whatsoever in providing adequate volume and punch to overcome it.
Would I be right in assuming Dink that you've never actually experienced one?
There are loads of standard car systems that come with underseat subwoofers, ie Bose in audi and Mazda etc, plus the BMW stereos have underseat subs. All of which sound great as a compromise to having the boot filled with speakers
The amount of road noise at any speed above 5mph in a connect, is ridiculous. However, the underseat sub has no problems whatsoever in providing adequate volume and punch to overcome it.
Would I be right in assuming Dink that you've never actually experienced one?
There are loads of standard car systems that come with underseat subwoofers, ie Bose in audi and Mazda etc, plus the BMW stereos have underseat subs. All of which sound great as a compromise to having the boot filled with speakers
JL now do these micro subs that are mounted in very thin boxes, im yet to try on in my car but once i have time the the local audio shop will let my try one of there show subs.
They are not cheap, but im told they sounds amazing and if you didn't know you would think that you had a sub twice as big in the boot.
http://www.jlaudio.co.uk/car-audio-subwoofer-systems-powerwedge-truck-powerwedge
This is 800W
I think the underseat sub still wins against a compact boot sub for the sort of people reading this thread.
I don't really care about losing 150x250x250mm of my boot as I loose that anyway with the jack, tyre foam, jump leads, a coat etc... I just don't want the car to have a single ounce of boy racer about it & I don't give a s*** about creating a minor earth quake I'm just aware that components can't do absolutely everything at once.
I don't really care about losing 150x250x250mm of my boot as I loose that anyway with the jack, tyre foam, jump leads, a coat etc... I just don't want the car to have a single ounce of boy racer about it & I don't give a s*** about creating a minor earth quake I'm just aware that components can't do absolutely everything at once.
Flol, quality comes at a price mate.
I have the JL 5ch amp as my Becker HU doesn't have any filter's so I control it all via the amp.
I've also got MTX components up front and JL in the rear.
Once funds allow ill go and test the JL sub's.
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
Flol, quality comes at a price mate.
I have the JL 5ch amp as my Becker HU doesn't have any filter's so I control it all via the amp.
I've also got MTX components up front and JL in the rear.
Once funds allow ill go and test the JL sub's.
Yeah that's true mate.
Should sound well with that little lot
Yeah that's true mate.
Should sound well with that little lot
Yes mate, crystal clear just need some bass now.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Well go listen to one before commenting.
I'll listen to my Bang & Olufsen while I'm waiting.
never heard one in person but on videos i have and they sound good to me, i have to agree with you, my speakers are pretty decent too so i plan to do the exact same as you
Polo + Micra
i heard and had much better subs than some over sized component with a LPF outputting less power than a wet lettuce.
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
Yes but were they sub 100 quid, and in no way whatsoever compromise space elsewhere within the car.
No one is denying that a decent 12" speaker, in an appropriate design of box, running nine million watts, will sound better, but this thread is about underseat subwoofers. You have no experience of them, you cannot comment on their performance.
No one is denying that a decent 12" speaker, in an appropriate design of box, running nine million watts, will sound better, but this thread is about underseat subwoofers. You have no experience of them, you cannot comment on their performance.
i second that haha just something nice and simple is all i need
Yeah that kenwood one is what im looking at, seems from all the reviews ive read that its good
Tim.
ClioSport Club Member
Has anyone seen any reviews for the Alpine PWE-V80?
I managed to fit the Kenwood last night. I decided to put in under the passenger seat and there is definitely an improvement in sound but I really need to adjust the settings to optimise my set up, I have a feeling it could sound a lot better.
Fitting it was a doddle once I had got the power cable through the bulk head - I used the grommet that the bonnet release cable goes through, and I found that the easiest way for me to do it was to undo the coolant bottle and the one next to it so that I could get my hand down the back of the heat shield carpet and push the wire through. The sub fits perfectly under the passenger seat once you remove the plastic tray thing, and you can use the fixing that the tray was held in by as a good earth for the sub. I managed to hide the wires behind the plastics and I decided to have the remote for the sub coming out from under the gear gater so I could put it in the cup holder.
The wiring was fiddly because at first the headunit would not remember my settings every time I turned it off (which never used to be an issue), but after some trial and error I found a wiring combination that worked.
Fitting it was a doddle once I had got the power cable through the bulk head - I used the grommet that the bonnet release cable goes through, and I found that the easiest way for me to do it was to undo the coolant bottle and the one next to it so that I could get my hand down the back of the heat shield carpet and push the wire through. The sub fits perfectly under the passenger seat once you remove the plastic tray thing, and you can use the fixing that the tray was held in by as a good earth for the sub. I managed to hide the wires behind the plastics and I decided to have the remote for the sub coming out from under the gear gater so I could put it in the cup holder.
The wiring was fiddly because at first the headunit would not remember my settings every time I turned it off (which never used to be an issue), but after some trial and error I found a wiring combination that worked.
So this isn't for your 182 then?
In serious though. Yeah, an underseat is fine for people who like to listen to a track, as opposed to let everyone with a mile know that there's a badmanz bassline.
glad it works well
got the settings sorted yet though? good description on how you fit it still braver than me haha i dont think i could do that myself but there isnt really anyone near me thats able to fit it for me 