Unhappy clio newb

[chrisw!]

Hi,
Just swapped my stripped out, race built Mi16 Pug 205 for an X reg 172 sunday night, had a test drive and everything felt great, did the swap and was happy, drove it around that night (approx 30 miles), everything was cool until it cut out at a roundabout, i got it started with the key and pulled it into a car park, where it died as soon as i stopped. Turned the key and all i got was a click, tried to bump it with no joy (the wheels just locked up) so up came the bonnet and the starter motor was red hot, so we undid the starter motor and wedged it back out of the way, bumped it again, it started but was making a godawful knocking sound so shut it off straightaway, got a new starter motor today and fitted it so we could find out the problem, and it sounds like the pistons are fubar'd
Has this ever happened to anybody else, i.e a starter motor seizing and killing an engine, and am i incredibly unlucky or is the bloke who sold me the car a complete **** and knew what was going to happen?

 

[Paul.]

lol welcome to the world of clios

 

[chrisw!]

Thanks, what a great christmas present aye?

 

[Paul.]

did you buy it from a cliosport member?

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Imo these things happen. I dont really think the guy who sold it to you could predicted the starter motor frying itself. But i hope you get it sorted and have some happy 172 ownership, i love mine

 

[Peperami]

Sounds like it was fudged before you bought it.

 

[JonniP]

bit of a coincidence that eh

 

[chrisw!]

did you buy it from a cliosport member?

It was a deal done through Pistonheads, i put the 205 up for sale and he offered me the Clio as a swap, his name is Craig and he drove it all the way from Reading to Loughborough and it was fine on the test drive.
The only thing that i can think of that may have triggered it is i hit a huge pot hole about 10 minutes before it cut out, but tbh i can't see why that would of killed the starter motor or the engine!

 

[pip.]

What maks you suspect the pistons?

 

[Hutchie]

get used to taking the engine out in a clio

 

[JonniP]

should this be moved to technical so the guy can get some more opinions?

 

[pip.]

should this be moved to technical so the guy can get some more opinions?

Yeah, give Ben a pm, he's on at the mo.

 

[chrisw!]

What maks you suspect the pistons?

The amount of noise, it sounds like they're trying to escape through the head, it will run but the noise of metal on metal is awful

 

[McBunny]

knocked a hole in the sump and lost all the oil ?

 

[Eckascliovalver]

knocked a hole in the sump and lost all the oil ?

Was going to say........ Have you checked the oil?

 

[chrisw!]

The oil is fine, it's just making a massive knocking noise, my brother-in-law is a mechanic and he's looked all round it and he says it's a piston, but if anyone is close to Loughborough it would be great if they could nip round and have a listen.

 

[mechanicalrepairs]

The oil is fine, it's just making a massive knocking noise, my brother-in-law is a mechanic and he's looked all round it and he says it's a piston, but if anyone is close to Loughborough it would be great if they could nip round and have a listen.

I am in Leicester city centre (www.cgcarsleicester.co.uk) if you need a second opinion, me personally i think it sounds like a coincidence, if he has drove that many miles and it was fine.

Sorry to hear this though fella, are you sure a piece of the starter motor hasnt fell in the bell housing?

Carl

 

[chrisw!]

Thanks for the offer mate, i may take you up on it if i can't get it sorted, it's just getting it there!

 

[pip.]

Is it possible to get a clip up of it running?
Being able to listen to it would be handy, and we have lots of tecs on here who could help.
Have you checked the sump plug for metal debris? If it's a piston/ring problem you are likely to get a positive reading.

 

[chrisw!]

I'll try and find my phone lead for the computer and get a vid up.
I've just spoke to Clio Spares and they'll sell me a complete bottom end for £275 delivered which i think is going to be the way forward. Just got to talk nicely to my brother-in-law now and see how cheaply he can fit it.

 

[f0xy]

I paid £120 for a 28k bottom end from a member off here, can be got far cheaper!

 

[chrisw!]

That's good, when i've got enough cash (probably after crimbo) i'll become a paid up member and put a wanted ad up.

 

[Gavin J]

Unlucky, replacement engine can be picked up circa £400-500 on here may be worth weight up the costs of the labour of installing a new bottom end or a complete engine swap....

 

[Budgie]

Unlucky.

If he's driven from Reading, it's unlikely to be a stitch up.

Definitely would go for a whole new engine for simplicity. PM steve79 on here. He's always got a couple.

 

[chrisw!]

Yea i've thought about putting a new engine in and i've spoke to my mechanic and i think that's the way to go, Clio Spares say they can supply at engine for £500, and it'll probably be a few quid delivery, got to check whether it will come with a warranty, if it does it will be worth the extra few £'s