upgrading 1.2 to 1*2 brakes, few Q's

[dajones]

does the calliper bolt directly to the hub or would i need a bracket made up?
whats size are sport disks i been told 280mm?
and what are the pros/cons with abs and how would i de activate it should i decide?
and finally grooved, vented or drilled discs to be used with greenstuff pads

all for a fast road setup

 

[aliengravy]

I think you would need bigger wheels as the larger discs don't go behind 1.2 alloys?

 

[jesus]

^^ They'll go behind anything that's 15" or more.

 

[LouisQ]

Dont you dare buy greenstuff! Just go to the fridge, get a lump of cheese and trace the pad around it and cut it to shape, Then stuff it into the carrier and you have yourself a home made greenstuff pad

 

[dajones]

Dont you dare buy greenstuff! Just go to the fridge, get a lump of cheese and trace the pad around it and cut it to shape, Then stuff it into the carrier and you have yourself a home made greenstuff pad

fair enough! what would you recommend then im not like a race driver so dont need amazing stuff but ive managed to fade my 1.2 standard stuff a few times

 

[aliengravy]

I never experienced fade in the 1.2 mk2 have in the 1.4 mk1 though!!

 

[dajones]

theres this road up by me that im always on it always happens there!

 

[OLR]

I had fade in my 1.4 scared s**t out of me lol

Gona be a right effort now its got a 1*2 set up
But I will try my best

 

[mini-valver]

You'll need a bracket to mount the caliper and 280mm discs. IMO, its not worth it. Just get better discs and pads with some fresh fluid for road use.

 

[dajones]

well the callipers are cheap as chips i need new pads and discs anyways

 

[mini-valver]

Get some brackets made up then dude!

 

[dajones]

what about the pros/cons of abs ?
like apart from weight why does the cup do without?

 

[mini-valver]

ABS?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'd go for a wilwood conversion and keep the 259mm discs

by "upgrading" to 280mm discs you're only going up slightly in diameter and a tiny bit in thickness

don't forget the faster* Williams uses the same discs, pads and calipers as the mk2 non sport clios




*keeps 9lives happy, also the williams is a fair bit lighter

 

[James.f]

only reason hes upgrading is because im doing the conversion and having 172 calipers on to handle the power, and since i can get them resonably cheap he wouldnt minde the braking + looks of bigger brakes lol

 

[dajones]

whats the cost of the wilwoods fred?
i can get 1*2 calipers for £20 and discs for £40 and then however much the pads cost been quoted £60 fro greenstuff

what would i need?

 

[Fred@BTM]

£450 give or take for wilwoods

its the brackets to convert your 1.2 hubs to accept the 172 caliper that is going to cost the money, there are already parts available to fit wilwoods or hispecs (what i use)

£370 for hispecs complete with lines, pads, discs, brackets etc NEW! (and that uses a 172 280mm disc)

 

[Stava]

Andy from GDI told me that the wilwood conversion wasn't worth it, to expensive to little gains. he recommended to me Brembo HC discs, Ferodo DS2500 pads and good fluid.

I ordered eerything from k-tec, didn't get the DS2500 pads, they sent me the wrong ones, got DS Performance instead. I did a trackday at Snetterton and couldn't get them to fade at all, same at Marham aswell.

In short, good discs and pads will do you fine son. As for ABS, its over rated!

Steve

 

[Fred@BTM]

he is building a 1.2 with a 172 engine

 

[James.f]

£450 give or take for wilwoods

its the brackets to convert your 1.2 hubs to accept the 172 caliper that is going to cost the money, there are already parts available to fit wilwoods or hispecs (what i use)

£370 for hispecs complete with lines, pads, discs, brackets etc NEW! (and that uses a 172 280mm disc)

370 for hispec ?? link's or is it only through you ?

im doing the conversion not Dajones

 

[dajones]

hhhmmm ill have a think! you have a link to the hi-spc kit fred?

the plan is to upgrade the chassis pretty much then slap a 2.0 in there as soon as monies allow so im sorting front brakes now then ill get a new rear beam to accept rear disks then possible coilovers etc

 

[dajones]

he is building a 1.2 with a 172 engine

thats jay for now but were doing the brakes at the same time so save on postage etc

 

[Stava]

is this going to be a cheeky little sleeper? have you got a project thread?

 

[James.f]

cheaky little sleeeper no im afraid, but going to keep it with 16v badges etc, has 172 kit onit now

 

[Fred@BTM]

http://www.hispecbrake.co.uk/Conversions/Renault/Clio Mk1 285 B4.htm

scroll down to the economy kit with the 280mm disc

 

[dajones]

mines going to be a cheeky sleeper no project thread at the minute as ive not really got the cash to promise stuff so i just get when i can. itll prob take years like freds V

jay has a full replica on the go, hes done all the cosmetics and interior just need the engine now which is going in on the 20th

cheers for the link fred its been bookmarked