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i think the trophy is amazing but I honestly couldnt tell any difference from my cupped 182. I must have a good 182 I guess but there was nothing to make me change.
Sorry. I know others think the difference is amazing but I couldnt come to the same conclusion.
This is obviously all in my opinion which many of you wont agree with but my advice is to take a test drive yourself, especially if you get a chance to try one on track to see if you think it is worth losing all of the toys.
The seats were also ok but I dont have a single problem with the normal seats, there are perfect for me, I guess I fill them better than most.
But back on topic, I cant wait to see this EVO, I love it, great magazine.
Elise/VX220/R26
There are a number of things that worry me about evo. The main one is to do with renault, as Evo were apparently "involved" in development of the meg trophy/cup and I think also the trophy clio. Now can Evo still be impartial after they have done this? They are hardly going to say that the changes are barely noticable when they have previously run an article bragging about being invited to france with renault to work on the cars!
Also I think Evo tend to jump on the bandwagon. The 172 barley made an impact on Evo but when they caught on and the 182 was rteleased suddenly its the most incredible hatch since the williams! The same has happened with the 225 they give the trophy 4 stars originally but now they are catching on a bit they give the cup 4 1/2 stars but its the same car!!
I do like Evo and I subscribe to it but I wouldnt let their reviews influence my decision wether to buy a car. I might use it as a reference to come up with a shortlist but thats it. I think Evo are really getting like the Heat magazine of the car world. Maybe they will get invited to Japan to a susuki development meeting and this time next year it will be the Suzuki swift thats the best thing since the williams?
Disclaimer *I am not saying the trophy is anything but the finest clio ever produced please put the pitch forks away*
Mine just came through the door - was quite a good review.
Now I just have to sell a kidney and a couple of limbs to be able to afford one lol
Cupped 182 with Milltek
Must admit I too subscribe to EVO,and I drew up my shortlist on personal opinion and also EVOs remarks!I had never (sorry) considered a Renault having had a Scoob and various V.A.G cars.But after the Car of the Year result for the 182 coincided with my Golf smacking the sump fo the road for the 3rd time in 15000 miles I gave one a go!I was looking at the Leon Cupra R and the CTR but got the Clio with the Cup packs.Lived up to EVOs claims,stunning little car,and a perfect shopping trolley for a wife whos not a confident driver!(never finds the 5000rpm trigger lol).
Quote: Originally posted by Richy123 on 30 July 2005
doubt it, I drove it right at the beginning of the day and it was new, other people said it was great, i just didnt.
oh and mine has had a life of tracks, it was one of the first 182s and has been on loads of track days and is still fine, doubt it could even feel like its pulling a caravan of double the weight, your mates has probaby got a fault, the clio loves the track.
[Edited by dave182 on 7/30/2005 3:33:56 PM]
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
Jonnyboy.When the 172 was released it took on lots of cars in the mag like the leon and ctr and won both for all round fun and ability.They then took a mk 1 on for a year and a mk2 after that and drew there conclusions,like the 4k rattle and all the stuff weve been used too.
To say the 172 never made an impact on evo is a bit wrong imho
ian
I subscribed to Evo a few weeks ago so hopefully mine will arrive next week.
I was talking to the Renault Press guy about this the other week. Evo have had the Trophy for a good while now, its just they missed there deadline to get it in last months issue.
Evo had a little to do with the Trophy, but only in the fact that they were asked what they thought, and was it too hard stiff for British roads.
Jonnyboy, Evo loved the Mk1 172. Ive got an issue of it where they had the first Magnex every fitted to the one that had and where thrashing it on track. Richard Meaden has been a long time fan of the Clio. The Mk2 172 came out at an odd time and did miss out on a lot of press I reckon. I didnt know it really existed back then. lol
Im still over the moon with mine. David is the only person I know who owns a 172/182/Cup who has said it doesnt handle any better. Everyone I spoke to at Oulton Park said it was a definate improvement, which I believe it is. But as I said to one of the guys at the time, Id not have swapped if it werent for the F & F discount, as the other models are all fantastic.
Lee.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
WHERE THE FECK IS MY COPY!?
Its normally through my door by the 28th.
Elise/VX220/R26
That was my point though the p2 172 the normal one didnt get anything like the attention the 182 got but yet it was very popular with the buying public, Evo latched onto this and made sure to be right on the bandwagon when the 182 came out. Despite bieng the same car with silly exhausts on its a williams beater??? I never read Evo before I bought my 172 so I cant comment on the mk1 172 but the mk2 passed well under the Evo radar.
It featured in 4 road tests and they had a long termer. And they gave it four stars. Hardly un-noticed, but I agree they have made something of a fuss about the 182s. Probably because theyre and improvement on a car they already rated as being one of the best in its field, and thus deserving of all the praise.
And Trophy vs M6!! PMSL!!
I thought the article was crap to be honest. They should have just had separate reviews of each car. Having said that, Evo has been a little strange over the last few months. Hopefully it will pick up again soon....
I think the relative lack of new performance cars is making it more difficult to write new and interesting articles.
The Jinx
I agree with Jonnyboy. I suspect evo arent entirely impartial in their verdicts. I buy evo more for the writing style and quality of photos than their ultimate verdict of a car.
I like the pretty pictures.
Why do you think that theyre not impartial ?
The Jinx
Because Ive been reading teh mag for many many years and thats the conclusion Ive drawn. Its not just towards renaults either.
An interesting conclusion. They love a Clio - so theyre not impartial towards Renault. However, in the same issue the Megane doesnt win.
The Jinx
Not just renault JT. And its only IMO. You cant tell me thought that if they get treated very well by a manufacturer they arent going to view the car more positiviely than maybe otherwise? Its human nature.
whats on the front of evo i picked one up today with a super car feature enzo + ferrari and carrera gt is this the one with the 182 trophy review ?(august)
aaahhh i just bought the old one
bugger
