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Very little sound from sub?



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  M240i
this still not working? Where you based mate.. maybe someone could come and have a look at it for you?
 
  clio 182
have you turned the subs up?? silly question but the firsts subs i ever bought i fitted them etc & sound was very quiet took it to sextons they had the car for about 3mins when the guy came up to me and said 'subs where turned down mate' felt like such a tw@. Either that or you battery isnt powering the subs?? take it to a sound shop mate theyl look at it for you wont take then 2mins.

Rite just re-read a bit of this thread, it wont be the earth because they wouldnt power if that was the case, let me get this rite when you put your ear close to the subs you can hear music very quietly and crappy but without bass??? what size cable are you using?? 4gauge or 8?? I have a 0g running my system but on a previous system 8 wasnt a powerfull enough wire to run the subs had to drop down to a 4g,

also what AUX cables are you using?? have you got them in the rite way as in input - output?? normally have to ends on them blue and red,


What out put are you subs/amps etc?
 
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  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
It wouldnt let me edit my last post for some reason but yeh when I put my ear to it its just really quiet bass coming from the sub, I am using 10G cables. I've tried not bridging the connection but it doesnt make any difference. Thanks again for the replies.
 
  Polo + Micra
i'd say bridge connect the sub first

also check to see what the setting is on the gain (the lower the voltage the higher the gain)

also that isn't the best amp tbh as i can't find any details on it it says 500w but it's probably only like 200wRMS
 
  vaux cavalier
Look, if your altering settings on the amp, ( ie; the gain/sensitivity control), & there is no difference in sub output, then you should be looking at the amplifiers input signal....

As stated previously a number of times;

1, Check your using the correct Pre-Outs on the Head Unit....
2, Check your using the correct In-Puts on the Amplifier....
3, If using a High/Low level converter or similar, ensure its not faulty....
4, Post up following info to help all that are trying to help you;

A, Make & Model of Head Unit
B, Make & Model of High/Low level converter, (if using one)....
C, Whether or not your using High level input plug on Amplifier via rear speaker wires....
 
hehe what a thread, sorry to hear bout the s**t you having mate...anyways have you got the sub setting on ur amp set at an appropriate frequency? ie: too low and you wont really hear s**t coming out of it, worth a check. good luck man ;)
 
  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
The head unit is a JVC KD-G343, the pre-outs and inputs should be fine, I have the rca lead going from the back of the head unit into the amp. I am not using the high level input on the amp as I am only wanting bass so its just the low one I'm using. Yeh I tried messing about with the settings and frequencies, still no joy.
 
  vaux cavalier
OK,

JVC are claiming a 2.5v Pre-Out....

Juice Amp settings;

Stereo/Mono switch----Mono, (if present on amp)
Filter Switch----Low Pass, (Choices, HPF, LPF, Flat or Off), select LPF
Crossover Point----Set at approx 80Hz
Gain/Sensitivity control----2.5v pre-out signal indicates 50% to 75% depending on Head Units 'safe' max volume, (see below)....

All the information you require for setting this up can be found by using the 'Search' function....

Search for threads started by me, it should appear at or near the top....

If you have a mate with a boot mounted amplifier that has through-puts or line outs then you could try these ran into your amplifier, all you would require is a 5mtr RCA lead....
 
  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
Thanks a lot, al give that ago and yeh I had a mate put his RCA lead from his car to mine so it was coming from his head unit but still powered etc from mine and still got no joy.
 
  clio sport 172cup
are you sure youve got the sub on the right settings as in could be goin in instead of out which is wat gives you the tthump
 
  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
That could maybe be the problem, what would cause it to do that? If its the postive connected to the negative and the negative to positive then its not that, I have triple checked them.
 
  Polo + Micra
are you sure youve got the sub on the right settings as in could be goin in instead of out which is wat gives you the tthump

a speaker cone moves up and down from rest to produce sound

think you might be confused with switching between 0 and 180 degree phase rotation
 
  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
I tried changing all the different amp settings etc and I only found that I dont hear anything when the settings are medium but when all up full I can hear the bass but it is very very quiet.
 
  vaux cavalier
Ok, its now time to check the actual amplifier to sub wiring configuration....

The sub your using looks like a dual 4ohm voice coil sub, so can be configured to show either a 2ohm or 8ohm final impedance....

The Juice Amplifier your using is a 2ch Amplifier, it would appear to be a budget brand, (reads as, "cheap TAT" I'm afraid), which IMO wouldn't be 1ohm stable, which would imply it can't or shouldn't be bridged into less than 4ohm....

So, who fitted the sub in your enclosure ???
How are the coils configured, running one at 0 degrees & the other at 180 degrees would result in very little output & accelerated heat build up which would cause premature coil failure....

I would wire the sub at one coil per channel;
COIL_2CH.jpg


You could try it bridged into 2ohm;
COIL_2OHMBRIDGED.jpg


You could try it bridged into 8ohm;
COIL_8OHMBRIDGED.jpg


But if the coils are wired out of phase with each other then expect issues & possible damage;

Sub wired one coil per channel, (OUT OF PHASE);
COIL_2CH_OUTOFPHASE.jpg


8ohm bridged, coils out of phase;
COIL_8OHMBRIDGED_OUTOFPHASE.jpg


REMEMBER, COILS OUT OF PHASE IS BAD

Double check.....

Laymans definition, Coil A is pushing, Coil B is pulling = very little cone movement, very little output, excessive heat build up in both coils.....
 
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  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
Thanks for the reply man. I fitted the sub into the enclosure myself, there are two holes in the enclosure and wiring already fitted to the other side of the holes so I dont think I can do some of the ways suggested. Here is the way I done it, I dont know if its right or not but it sounded ok from my home stereo:
4kbfib.jpg
 
  Polo + Micra
by the looks of it that wire is just a short between the + and -.

and just make sure the coils are connected right as wallop has shown
 
  Polo + Micra
well yes if the amp is stable with a 2 ohm bridge load. if not then no(can't answer this as there are no real specs. to be found on the net)

i'd connect it the way shown in wallops first pic in his post a couple of replies before
 
  Clio 1.2 16V Dynamique
Ok thanks, the thing is though, the sub works fine on my home stereo so I would of thought the problem was nothing to to with the sub.
 
  Polo + Micra
well the amp isn't the best tbh but you should still get a fair amount of sound

if you wanted to replace it with something cheap i'd probably go for something like this
 
  vaux cavalier
OK,

A picture paints a thousand words, if your sub is wired as your pic, (with one coil shorted out), then that needs to be sorted before you try it again....

The second terminals on each coil are simply to make wiring easier....So if you configure your coils like this, your running your coils in 'parallel' at 2ohm....
4kbfib_B.jpg


If your still getting no joy, the next step is either;

1, Try another known good amp in your car....or....
2, Try your amp in a mates car....

Starting to lean towards a goosed amp now to be honest....
 


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