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yer had them on my 1.8 16v clio excellent tyre with very predictable handling and long lasting. In comparission to F1's which i have on my car now there the vredesteins are not as good traction wise, and for some reason i have more faith in the f1's, seem to give that bit more confidence in the corners. But if you want a cheaper tyre thats up there, then definatly go for it
Well I swapped from my much hated GSD3's to these - I didn't like the GSD's on the willy, they were too soft, wore to quickly - granted they were ace in the dry but when it got damp I hated them, they came back in full wet situations though..
The sportrac 3's ultimately give away some grip but you have to be on the limit to notice but they worked so much better in grimey conditions and were the best in wet weather.
This was on 15's though 16's may alter the character of both.