VXR Berg crash at the Ring.

SlowLow&Sideways · May 12, 2010

DannyR said:
He turned in to early to the learning curve also, and didn't learn!

+1 turned in a good 2 seconds early.

Fail.

ran out of talent? I see no talent at all.

Paul. · May 12, 2010

i agree with you danny tbh , gutted for the boy. God knows how the lad must be feeling tbh.

dmn1989 · May 12, 2010

Poopensharten · May 12, 2010

Paul. said:
i agree with you danny tbh , gutted for the boy. God knows how the lad must be feeling tbh.

Its bloody awful eh?

Ive had that feeling in my stomach once, never again!!!

Poopensharten · May 12, 2010

dmn1989 said:
TF?

Think it was mate aye

dmn1989 · May 12, 2010

im asking what it means Danny lol

Paul. · May 12, 2010

Danny_172 said:
Its bloody awful eh?

Ive had that feeling in my stomach once, never again!!!

aye , i mean when i binned my LY V6 on one of the corners at the ring on Forza i felt gutted , never mind your 15k motor lol

Mr Burns · May 12, 2010

Sir_Dave said:
A few points:

1. Entry speed was too high.
2. He's bloody unlucky.
3. He will have learnt from the mistake.
4. If you dont crash at least once, you're not trying hard enough ...
5. Ring insurance is nigh on on impossible on TF. When it is, its ££££££'s

Tbh, there is so much fail in this thread, & not just from the understeering VXR driver :dapprove:

Agreed.

Dm_26 · May 12, 2010

I was gutted when I witnessed my pal bin his £500 corsa never mind a £15k car. Just being at the scene of an accident, no matter how expensive the car is is gutting. Especially the smell of petrol/oil/air bags

Poopensharten · May 12, 2010

dmn1989 said:
im asking what it means Danny lol

Ah right! Tourist Friendly i think it is..?

Poopensharten · May 12, 2010

Paul. said:
aye , i mean when i binned my LY V6 on one of the corners at the ring on Forza i felt gutted , never mind your 15k motor lol

Flol, aye real gutter that

Paul. · May 12, 2010

Danny_172 said:
Flol, aye real gutter that

you have NO idea

Mark R27 · May 12, 2010

If I were the driver I would have cried all the way home.

Shame as it was a nice car but one less Nurburgring edition out there now.

BIFCAIDS · May 12, 2010

DannyR said:
He turned in to early to the learning curve also, and didn't learn!

you cant run before crawling.

my reaction was LOL - s**t the bed - (after it rolled) BIFFED!

Sir_Dave · May 12, 2010

dmn1989 said:
TF?

'Touristenfarten', ie tourist day, ie open to public ...

I personally think people need to take a look at themselves, all this talk of 'running out of talent' and 'epic fail' - seriously, how many of you have actually been on a track day/raced/driven properly/hard. Think about it. Would you even know what do do in the event of epic understeer/oversteer/death, etc. No? Then realise what you are saying.

Everyone makes mistakes. Tbh, its impressive that he had the balls to do the ring, half of the jessies on here wouldnt do it in case they got a fly on their 'freshly detailed chariot' ...

Poopensharten · May 12, 2010

Sir_Dave said:
'Touristenfarten', ie tourist day, ie open to public ...

I personally think people need to take a look at themselves, all this talk of 'running out of talent' and 'epic fail' - seriously, how many of you have actually been on a track day/raced/driven properly/hard. Think about it. Would you even know what do do in the event of epic understeer/oversteer/death, etc. No? Then realise what you are saying.

Everyone makes mistakes. Tbh, its impressive that he had the balls to do the ring, half of the jessies on here wouldnt do it in case they got a fly on their 'freshly detailed chariot' ...

Running out of talent is what it was though, he took the bend far too fast? He apparently has said it himself so technically he did run out of talent!

I can totally sympathise with the lad but he knew the risks and went for it so fair play i say!

Slow in, fast out isnt it? He just went fast, then faster lol

Mr Burns · May 12, 2010

Sir_Dave said:
'Touristenfarten', ie tourist day, ie open to public ...

I personally think people need to take a look at themselves, all this talk of 'running out of talent' and 'epic fail' - seriously, how many of you have actually been on a track day/raced/driven properly/hard. Think about it. Would you even know what do do in the event of epic understeer/oversteer/death, etc. No? Then realise what you are saying.

Everyone makes mistakes. Tbh, its impressive that he had the balls to do the ring, half of the jessies on here wouldnt do it in case they got a fly on their 'freshly detailed chariot' ...

I like it, and you're saving me from saying it lol.

Sir_Dave · May 13, 2010

Danny_172 said:
Running out of talent is what it was though, he took the bend far too fast? He apparently has said it himself so technically he did run out of talent!

I can totally sympathise with the lad but he knew the risks and went for it so fair play i say!

Slow in, fast out isnt it? He just went fast, then faster lol

You are entirely correct Danny, he did run out of talent, but we all do at some point, even F1's drivers do it occasionally; its called pushing the boundaries, & its imperative when learning new skills. Its certainly not something to mock extensively! Mind you, such 'driver development' does cost a small fortune when it goes wrong though ...

SteBurns said:
I like it, and you're saving me from saying it lol.

I couldn't just sit back & watch any longer

Si · May 13, 2010

I <3 Dave, Ste and Kev.

Dave you've hit the nail square on the head with your last post.

DannyR · May 13, 2010

Sir_Dave said:
I personally think people need to take a look at themselves, all this talk of 'running out of talent' and 'epic fail' - seriously, how many of you have actually been on a track day/raced/driven properly/hard. Think about it. Would you even know what do do in the event of epic understeer/oversteer/death, etc. No? Then realise what you are saying.

Everyone makes mistakes. Tbh, its impressive that he had the balls to do the ring, half of the jessies on here wouldnt do it in case they got a fly on their 'freshly detailed chariot' ...

Done plenty of trackdays and drive very hard when the time is right. He did run out of talent, on a track he had little experience on, expecially one like Nurburgring, he was going beyond his limits.

I also take pride in not detailing my car

Mr Burns · May 13, 2010

john lloyd · May 13, 2010

too many people talk a good game from behind the laptop sat in the bedroom of their parents house, we are by the nature of the club we're members of all petrol heads.

messing up on a track day is nothing to be ashamed about, only people who have never done a track day would have a cheap dig at anyone who has ever crashed. you dont go there to fcuk about you go there to push the limits of you/car/track in relative safety to others.

when an bttc or f1 driver spins out do we jump all over them with mocking comments? he may have been going a little fast it was a mistake and thats all. look at the pics and take away only the fact trackdays and racing provides some of the highest highs and lowest lows.

when someone has made a mistake and on a low it should only act as a reminder to those of us who actually take our cars onto track the risks you take, those who get their highs from illegal street racing or bad mouthing a mistake you need to have a word with yourself.

better at the ring on a track than blasting up and down your local road like some pricks do.

everyone makes a mistake

has kevo been banned for his comments in this thread?

Topgeartom · May 13, 2010

Just cant believe if you were going to go that far, and risk that much financially (as anyone on the ring does) you wouldnt spend 30 minutes learning the track from one of the myriad of games that have it, or even a couple of YT videos.

Bad luck 'an all but its a brilliant advert for starting slow and knowing your limits.

Bluebeard · May 13, 2010

I keep watching it and still cannot believe how fast he was going! lol.

Bluebeard · May 13, 2010

john lloyd said:
too many people talk a good game from behind the laptop sat in the bedroom of their parents house, we are by the nature of the club we're members of all petrol heads.

messing up on a track day is nothing to be ashamed about, only people who have never done a track day would have a cheap dig at anyone who has ever crashed. you dont go there to fcuk about you go there to push the limits of you/car/track in relative safety to others.

when an bttc or f1 driver spins out do we jump all over them with mocking comments? he may have been going a little fast it was a mistake and thats all. look at the pics and take away only the fact trackdays and racing provides some of the highest highs and lowest lows.

when someone has made a mistake and on a low it should only act as a reminder to those of us who actually take our cars onto track the risks you take, those who get their highs from illegal street racing or bad mouthing a mistake you need to have a word with yourself.

better at the ring on a track than blasting up and down your local road like some pricks do.

everyone makes a mistake

has kevo been banned for his comments in this thread?

I bet you're a right laugh to go out with aren't you.

Si · May 13, 2010

Daniel said:
I bet you're a right laugh to go out with aren't you.

he is actually. thanks for your input.

shiyan · May 13, 2010

good god it looks like he did not brake for that corner

feel somewhat sorry for him but then he was going for a laptime on his 2nd! lap?

mx1_champ · May 13, 2010

iv nearly had a few bad crashes on that corner.... luckily i could rewind tho and take a better line..

Ian_182 · May 13, 2010

Im still shocked he wasnt insured.If he had gone in a £500 astra GTE and wrote it off then fine.A new VXR is just a no...

ForceIndia · May 13, 2010

Normal trackday, walk away and spend a few hours removing gravel. But by all accounts the margins are a lot finer at the ring.
Credit to him for putting his hands up and not blaming phantom diesel/animal/britney spears for the accident.

Cunney · May 13, 2010

Spoonie said:
Who wants to add the bill up for that...

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/prices.html

Fook me, would track insurance pay out for that (if he had it)?

ForceIndia · May 13, 2010

Cunney said:
Fook me, would track insurance pay out for that (if he had it)?

Can you get insurance for a public day at the ring?

richard1 · May 13, 2010

As much as anyone can say they 'know' the ring, you have to accept that the risks of an incident are high.

More so if you are a regular.

I strongly advise anyone who goes to think about where they might get a large sum of money from should the worse happen.

Having "probably" experienced a crash there, I can honestly say it makes you think very hard about the next 'fast lap' you start out to do.

It also gives you an immense respect for the awesome place that it is.

Sightseeing laps for me these days:approve:

Cunney · May 13, 2010

Brown Bear said:
Can you get insurance for a public day at the ring?

No idea bud, but it's a track that you pay to use like any other so can't see why not

Ash87 · May 13, 2010

offt that is a nasty hit

Tom · May 13, 2010

Cunney said:
No idea bud, but it's a track that you pay to use like any other so can't see why not

Wrong. Its a toll road.

geordie555 · May 13, 2010

gutter, scary place, its so easy to get it wrong....least u didnt crash in 5 seconds like that tool in the beemer on youtube

ForceIndia · May 13, 2010

Cunney said:
No idea bud, but it's a track that you pay to use like any other so can't see why not

No, as tom said it isn't. At least not on the public days, and I know my policy excludes the nurburgring toll road.

Triki · May 13, 2010

Un-fcukin lucky ! At least he walked away though, could have been worse.

Cunney · May 13, 2010

Tom said:
Wrong. Its a toll road.

Well then there's no reason why he wouldn't be covered under insurance if insurers see it that way although I think you'd have an hard time persuading them seeing as it has most toll roads don't having timing gates and hair pins lol

VXR Berg crash at the Ring.

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