Weird judder turning left...

[AL9X]

I get a judder under the following conditions, under all other circumstances you'd never know there was an issue, help please:

- only when turning left
- only when the suspension is loaded I.e when turning hard.
- when the power is on i.e powering through a bend.
- the more corner load the worse the judder.
- doesn't happen turning right.

Some other info:
- it's not loose wheel nuts.
- the passenger side cv boot had come loose and dumped all the grease.
- I thought the judder was drivers side but could have been fooled by the left cornering load making it worse ie I thought when more weight was on driver front wheel it felt worse but could be weight coming off passenger side.
- cv boot re-greased and problem still there.

I'm thinking maybe passenger cv joint? It's just weird it's when turning left and the weight is off that side.

All help appreciated.

Al

 

[Slygreen]

Had a similar thing happening on my old s3 which got worse the harder I pushed. I couldn't see anything wrong, neither could a specialist then one day reversing out a space on full lock the cv disintegrated, completely!...... Maybe worth trying a new drive shaft?

 

[AL9X]

Thanks for the reply that's what I'm having to do, trying the passenger side first as that had dumped out the grease but if it hadn't I'd have thought it was the drivers side which probably means doing both :-(

 

[Knuckles]

I had similar with the girlfriends civic. When turning right more than 20 or so degrees of the steering wheel above 70, I'd get quite an unsettling judder.

Having the wheels balanced seems to have sorted it.

 

[krappy]

It sounds like your driver's side driveshaft is bottoming out/binding - try loosening off your upper engine/gearbox mounts and shifting the engine over towards the passenger side, then tightening them up again to give the driveshaft more room.

 

[JamesBryan]

I'd say driveshaft.

 

[AL9X]

Krappy, thank you I'll try that. What you have described is more likely as I'd have said it was drivers side. Shame I've just bought a whole setup for the passenger side before I could try this oops!

 

[JamesBryan]

Driver's side is a lot easier to replace than passenger as you don't have to do the gearbox oil unlike the passenger side.

 

[AL9X]

Thanks James, too late now on the passenger side but good to know the drivers side will be easier.

 

[krappy]

Krappy, thank you I'll try that. What you have described is more likely as I'd have said it was drivers side. Shame I've just bought a whole setup for the passenger side before I could try this oops!

Had you had any suspension work done/neg camber added just before the issue started? It could also be worn engine mount/s allowing the engine to move sideways under cornering too much. Hopefully it is something as simple as that

 

[AL9X]

It would be great if it is the engine moving on the mounts. I'll report back once that's been looked at, thanks everyone [emoji846]

 

[krappy]

Well if it isn't at least it doesn't take long to do and will rule one thing out - good luck with it!

 

[AL9X]

New passenger side drive shaft and move engine over and it's sorted thanks for the help everyone:

 

[AL9X]

New passenger side drive shaft and move engine over and it's sorted thanks for the help everyone:View attachment 150882

 

[krappy]

Good to hear it's fixed - do you know what actually solved the issue? Did you try moving the engine over first?

 

[AL9X]

I don't know which fixed it because they both got done at the same time but the image above shows how much the engine moved over so definitely could have been that. The old rings was where the washers used to sit.