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What basic tuning to get done
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If you can afford it why not hes not bothered about the money why should anyone else be its his money. I wish i could of at 18 i had a nova 1.4sr if i had the money back then i would of had an rs turbo but it was going to be 3 grand that was 15 year ago i tried but no chance could i pay that
Regardless of how little financial sense it makes if £8k was trivial then sure I'd have got a 182 at 18. Yes it's amusing that he's paying 8k at 18 (I paid £1.4k at 19...) but if he thinks it's ok then fine.
The usual response is: "NA tuning is very expensive in terms of BHP/£ especially on the Renault F4R." Depending on whether your £8k comes from living at home, working full time at asda and parents paying for food/rent etc or whether it comes from "working for your Dad's company as an 'apprentice' for a 'director's son' salary" will probably dictate your attitude to mods. Regardless tuning is still expensive, power claims are often massively exaggerated by the likes of ebay tuning chips etc and in reality we're talking thousands and thousands of pounds to get, for example, 200 BHP.
* Have a search of the forum (or does that require £12 membership? Can't remember) as there are loads and loads of topics on "hw 2 get more pwr 4 cheap." The usual Induction Kits/cone filters are rather useless on the F4R engine and will actually lose power due to heatsoak, so please don't get an IK or cone filter. You will also be labled as the usual clio teenager chav pikey boyracer tw*t if you do, and I imagine you wouldn't want that.
* Yes, a decat will fail a legitimate MOT. Some people just fit the CAT once a year, others get it MOT'd by a "mate" who will, by complete chance, forget to do an emissions test or calibrate the system wrong in order to generate a "pass" result.*
* Remaps probably are one of the better perfomance/£ products as the increased lower down torque is arguably far more noticeable and useable than another X BHP between 6900 and 7250 RPM.
* Don't forget accelleration is all about power:weight ratios, and weight (or rather the lack of it) is free. Reducing the weight by 10% is the same as increasing the power by 11%. In reality removing the interior won't save 100 odd KG, but to gain the equivilant in BHP would cost circa £1000.
£8k could have come from two backgrounds as I see it. There is full time lad at the local Halfords with a brand new 200, quite clearly he has spent his entire salary on his car and doesn't have living expenses yet. OP could easily live with parents, work FT at asda and spend £3k on the car and £8k on insurance. If he has done this then flame away
Or his parents may be in a position where throwing away 8k a year is ok, but throwing away 16k (insurance & 197) when he does write it off and doesn't want to claim isn't an acceptable amount.
The usual response is: "NA tuning is very expensive in terms of BHP/£ especially on the Renault F4R." Depending on whether your £8k comes from living at home, working full time at asda and parents paying for food/rent etc or whether it comes from "working for your Dad's company as an 'apprentice' for a 'director's son' salary" will probably dictate your attitude to mods. Regardless tuning is still expensive, power claims are often massively exaggerated by the likes of ebay tuning chips etc and in reality we're talking thousands and thousands of pounds to get, for example, 200 BHP.
* Have a search of the forum (or does that require £12 membership? Can't remember) as there are loads and loads of topics on "hw 2 get more pwr 4 cheap." The usual Induction Kits/cone filters are rather useless on the F4R engine and will actually lose power due to heatsoak, so please don't get an IK or cone filter. You will also be labled as the usual clio teenager chav pikey boyracer tw*t if you do, and I imagine you wouldn't want that.
* Yes, a decat will fail a legitimate MOT. Some people just fit the CAT once a year, others get it MOT'd by a "mate" who will, by complete chance, forget to do an emissions test or calibrate the system wrong in order to generate a "pass" result.*
* Remaps probably are one of the better perfomance/£ products as the increased lower down torque is arguably far more noticeable and useable than another X BHP between 6900 and 7250 RPM.
* Don't forget accelleration is all about power:weight ratios, and weight (or rather the lack of it) is free. Reducing the weight by 10% is the same as increasing the power by 11%. In reality removing the interior won't save 100 odd KG, but to gain the equivilant in BHP would cost circa £1000.
£8k could have come from two backgrounds as I see it. There is full time lad at the local Halfords with a brand new 200, quite clearly he has spent his entire salary on his car and doesn't have living expenses yet. OP could easily live with parents, work FT at asda and spend £3k on the car and £8k on insurance. If he has done this then flame away
Or his parents may be in a position where throwing away 8k a year is ok, but throwing away 16k (insurance & 197) when he does write it off and doesn't want to claim isn't an acceptable amount.
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I work as an apprentice at my dads business, He made me do a year of working somewhere else to prove i could hack it, I then started on minimum wage, I still dont get loads, Roughly £500 a week now but i work very long hours for that, But one day the company will be mine so all the hard work will pay off. Its his money at the end of the day so he can do what he likes with it
I work as an apprentice at my dads business, He made me do a year of working somewhere else to prove i could hack it, I then started on minimum wage, I still dont get loads, Roughly £500 a week now but i work very long hours for that, But one day the company will be mine so all the hard work will pay off. Its his money at the end of the day so he can do what he likes with it
I was about to tell you to do £500 * 52 weeks and then compare to the national average wage, let alone the average wage for other 18 year olds. Then I realised you weren't the OP xD
I meant £100 a part! not 100 quid overall! so i would pay £700 but each part being up to £100 each.
I found the 172 at a forecourt. i didnt plan to buy a 172, i was just looking for a new car and seen this advertised and also i didnt pay origanlly 8k now 6k upfront. ipay monthly of £500
I have bought a k and n panel filter to replace the paper filter that was orignally in there. are you saying that could make it slower?
I joined the forum 2 days ago! its not the first thing on mymind to upgrade my member ship JHEEEZ! someone on job seekers could afford a £12 membership , it doesnt make you look well off
Your all going round in circles!
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is this chap for real?? passed your test 5weeks ago driving around in a 2ltr paying 8k insurance,i wouldn't at all be suprised if you stack it into a ditch within a few months.inexperience+power+age=massive fail, as for the i can afford it/no other people my age drive 2ltrs comment i have summed it up to you being a fool and a prize idiot!
that is all x x x
this forum is slowly being took over by retards:banghead:
that is all x x x
this forum is slowly being took over by retards:banghead:
Clio 182 Trophy #229
Is it a white 11 plate one in Hedge End retail park? I saw it today if it is. I didnt figure it would be a young lad in Hlafords that owned it.
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You missed a crucial bit of my post. It's the "open cone" type filters (e.g. one of these: http://www.carid.com/images/air-intake/kn/performance-induction-kits.jpg) that is a baaaaaaad idea on the F4R engines (the one in the 172 & 182) Because they are open they suffer from "heat soak" - that is, drawing in hot air from the rest of the engine bay. Hot air is less dense and therefore produces less power. The normal airbox setup or an "enclosed" induction kit (such as the Simota or BMC CDA) have a "cold air feed" - a pipe that draws colder, fresher air from around the grill area.
Funnily enough the standard airbox designs are often decent and besides the "V6 airbox" (see next comment) it's often said the best thing to do is standard airbox plus a panel filter, as you have done.
For the best of all worlds (price, performance etc) people use the airbox from a V6 Renault Espace with an aftermarket panel filter. It's a better design than the standard F4R airbox & you still have the advantage of it being an enclosed system, meaning minimal heatsoak. You may have noticed I'm not good at being brief.
We really should have a page at cliosport.net/csdetectives
(Granted there probably is only one 200 outside a "southampton-ish" Halfords, but still I'm impressed at the speed of your detective work
) The Black/Gold 182 there used to be mine. "Used to" because I'm back at uni, but mainly because (appropriate thread alert!) I was 19 and wrote it off in less than 5 months.I know an insurance:car ratio of 8:2 is bonkers for most people, but if you truely do have that money spare - wouldn't you spend it?
How much do ya reckon footballers or sons-of-harrods-owner pay in insurance? (obviously it's not 3x the cost of their respective Ferrari/Lambo/Aston but I reckon it's still thousands and thousands and thousands)
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Lets not get to carried away, i think we all need to give the guy a bit of breathing space. Plus if we scare him away he'll never post the inevitable "i hit the vtec and wrote my car off" thread
Keep a camera handy in the car, we love pics
Keep a camera handy in the car, we love pics
LOL at paying £8k for insurance.
Please search, this sort of information is all over the forum!
Please search, this sort of information is all over the forum!
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